Design Essentials Strengthening Therapy System

TopShelf

Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
So I am going to take the plunge and go to the salon this coming Sat and have it done. The specialist charges $150 and my plan is to see if it agrees with my hair and then continue to do it on my own. My coworker currently does it and I LOVE the way her hair looks when she comes back from a wash and set. Her hair is fine like mine and it always looks so healthy.
 

yodie

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TopShelf, your coworker is able to get a good wash and set with this treatment? Anyone else able to et their hair on rollers? I haven't had much luck, but I haven't been practicing either. I purchased some curlformers. I'll try to use those at some point. Right now I'm successfully eliminating heat and DE made it all possible (smile)
 

Britt

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My hair is still quite kinky. I'm sitting in the salon now getting a wash n set but there is no way I'd be able to not hv my roots blown. Today I'll tell the stylist to just lightly blow my roots. I think as you use the treatment and time passes it prob straightens your hair a lot more. I know my first wash after I got the treatment my hair was a breeze to comb through. Isn't the treatment supposed to wear off with each wash? I think that's the case bc with my first wash and my second wash I could still smell it faintly - not a chemical smell though - but a smell nonetheless.

Anywho, I plan on seeing the stylist in due time for another treatment. She said I could wait 12 wks ---- ummmm, nah, I plan on getting this done again in prob another 4 wks.

TopShelf, I hope it turns out well for you! I'm sure you'll keep us posted!

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Britt

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yodie, how do u wear your hair if you don't use heat? Do u do wet braid outs/twist outs and sit under a dryer? I'm gonna try that soon

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TopShelf

Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
TopShelf, your coworker is able to get a good wash and set with this treatment? Anyone else able to et their hair on rollers? I haven't had much luck, but I haven't been practicing either. I purchased some curlformers. I'll try to use those at some point. Right now I'm successfully eliminating heat and DE made it all possible (smile)

Yes but she has it done at the salon
 

Britt

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what will be your total turn around time?

I'm at week 4, I plan to go in 4 more weeks - 8 wks this go around. I looked at my hair after the hairdresser rinsed out my DC and it looks back to normal. When I first got the treatment my hair felt a bit more 'relaxed' in terms of the way it was easier to comb and manage when wet. IMO, my wet hair today looks no different than before I went in for the treatment. I've been using heat once a week since I've gotten it tho. My hair will be 'trained' to some degree.

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yodie

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yodie, how do u wear your hair if you don't use heat? Do u do wet braid outs/twist outs and sit under a dryer? I'm gonna try that soon

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I used to wear my hair straight but now I do Zumba alot, so I wash (Wen), flat twist it (mango butter and sometimes a little argan oil on top) air dry and I pin it up in a chignon. The mango butter makes my hair feel great.
 
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Britt

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I used to wear my hair straight but now I do Zumba alot, so I wash (Wen), flat twist it (mango butter and sometimes a little argan oil on top) air dry and I pin it up in a chignon. The mango butter makes my hair feel great.

Ohhhh this sounds cute! So u flat twist pretty often.

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Britt

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TopShelf when u get the treatment and u do ur first wash, you'll def be able to tell that something was applied to ur hair, you'll feel a coating of some sort - at least I did. The stylist told me that's to be expected.

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TopShelf

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i am still at the salon and she just put the mousse in my hair. i have no plans on returning. she was late, has both of her children with her and she was rough combing the product through. i brought my own Jumbo rake for her to use for detangling but i should have also brought my rat tail seamless comb.

ok! From now on i will ONLY DIY!
my hair came out great BUT........she was uber rough during the wash, blowdry, and burned me quite a few times. i felt that there were too many passes on the initial flat iron. the brush she used to blowdry tore up my scalp and was pulling out my hair.

on the 2nd round of flat ironing we hada disagreement because i asked her to only use 1 pass because the heat was going to be 450. her ridiculous reasoning was that my hair was high porosity and damaged so she needed to do more than one pass. Huh????? she started it with1 pass but i noticed that towards the end went back to 2 passes. i told her that my hair is fine and should straighten easily with the product now in it. she really tried to convince me but it was not happening.
 
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PureSilver

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TopShelf I'm sorry you had such a difficult time getting through to your stylist. Seems she doesn't care about your hair's health because if your hair is "damaged" as she claims why make some many passes if it can easily straighten in 1 pass especially since you added the product.

Girl i feel your pain and i'm upset for you so DIY next time save your money, time and less stress. I hope you get better results doing it yourself

HHG
 

TopShelf

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i will rotate the pics when i get home.

did i mention that she wanted to charge me $50 for the shampoo (12oz bottle )

and that she was taking pics of my hair from the back w/o asking




 
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PureSilver

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Didn't you tell her you ain't got no time for dat! Your hair looks good just wish you had a better experience.
 

TopShelf

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Didn't you tell her you ain't got no time for dat! Your hair looks good just wish you had a better experience.

she insisted that i needed the poo and conditioner and that the product would be less effective if i used anything else. i said, "oh I'll just come back to you", to avoid any further discussion.

the icing was when aanother client who was relaxed told her she wanted to go natural and she told her not to because her hair is too thick and because she goes to the gym often
 

PureSilver

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she insisted that i needed the poo and conditioner and that the product would be less effective if i used anything else. i said, "oh I'll just come back to you", to avoid any further discussion.

the icing was when another client who was relaxed told her she wanted to go natural and she told her not to because her hair is too thick and because she goes to the gym often

Girl, i can't even.......Just find yourself another stylist if you need the services of one; otherwise DIY. I will only go to my stylist for a relaxer.

Last saturday i relaxed my hair again and told my stylist that i would see her again in May; that is when i intend to get a touch up. Outside of a relaxer, i really don't need her services.
 

TopShelf

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I washed my hair today with a sulfate free poo. My hair was easier to detangle but I also did a quick pre-poo, so I am not sure if that helped.





 

Shelew

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I washed my own hair today and not so great. Clumps of hair I think the relaxed portion coming out all in the shower. Really scary. I am kinda thinking maybe I should not use this system anymore. As it goes along, it is not as easy when it was first applied at week one. Sigh...so tired of hair issues! Hair can never seem to stop breaking sorry for ranting
 

TopShelf

Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
Did the treatment loose your natural curl pattern TopShelf

I actually felt like it gave me back more of my pattern. Its so hard to say because I dye my hair which already loosens the pattern and I have been using the flat iron, pretty faithfully for the past three months.
 

sharifeh

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i got it done for the first time today , the process itself is pretty rough on the hair i didnt like that at all
my hair smells now too
i guess we'll see how it holds up
 

TopShelf

Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
I have decided to try use the shampoo and the silkening spray as part of my straightening regimen. The bottle suggests to use the spray for at least 3 weeks for maximum strengthening.
 

Shelew

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I have decided to try use the shampoo and the silkening spray as part of my straightening regimen. The bottle suggests to use the spray for at least 3 weeks for maximum strengthening.

I have the silkening spray. I had it done at salon three times and it was great. This was before I had the mousse applied though. I tried it myself just before the mousse at home but I may have put too much because it made my hair hard and that did not happen at the salon. I don't have a good hand at doing my own hair lol. On the YouTube videos for DE the educator says if you have the mousse you won't need the spray. Would it be too much protein on your hair?
 

TopShelf

Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
I have the silkening spray. I had it done at salon three times and it was great. This was before I had the mousse applied though. I tried it myself just before the mousse at home but I may have put too much because it made my hair hard and that did not happen at the salon. I don't have a good hand at doing my own hair lol. On the YouTube videos for DE the educator says if you have the mousse you won't need the spray. Would it be too much protein on your hair?[/QUOTE]

Do you mean using the treatment weekly? I am not sure if it will be too much protein for my hair but its worth a try (my hair is permanently dyed), especially since I deep condition weekly. I also plan on using my steamer again when I DC, so this should balance out the protein. My hair felt hard that night after I did the initial treatment and I was sweating ( i was in a club), and it was hard to comb for the rest of the week until I washed it.

Crossing fingers.
 

sharifeh

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ok so the stylist that did the de treatment on me recommended the mizani thermasmooth system to wash my hair but the mizani thermasmooth poo has sulfates lol
so what should shampoo should I use?
i dont want to waste all that money by using a sulfate poo
 

Shelew

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ok so the stylist that did the de treatment on me recommended the mizani thermasmooth system to wash my hair but the mizani thermasmooth poo has sulfates lol so what should shampoo should I use? i dont want to waste all that money by using a sulfate poo

I have been using the DE sulfate free poo that I bought when I first got the system. I have not used anything else. Was getting a little antsy though to try other stuff. I have some Wen in the cabinet calling my name lol :) I am a recovering PJ so I moved to skin care products instead of hair now I am missing hair products lol
 
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