Awww thank you so much Yvette! I am disappointed that the braid outs produce waves rather than curls. Have you ever tried any of the two methods? Do you get results similar to hers? I asked because: I want to find something easy to do that can mimic my natural curl pattern and give me good definition. I know that twist outs can come close to that but I have two problems: 1. My twists untwist immediately to a very loose good-for-nothing form, so if I want them to stay I have to apply a number of bobby pins to each one of them which is not very practical. I know from previous experience that my hair can keep braids so I was hoping to try them for braid-outs. 2. For some obscure reason, one of the two strands in the two-strand twists acts as a pole around which the other one twists and so when I take them down one is nicely spiral in shape and the other one is rather straight. Compare the curls from the first strand in the two first pictures to those in the third one Does anybody else face this problem? And have you found a way to prevent it? Also does anybody do three strand twists? Do they also tend to unravel easily? And what curl pattern results from them?