How To Grow & Retain 20" Of 4c Hair
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GGsKin
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bubbles12345
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I think I have a 4b/4c mix. I see coils of different sizes in the bathroom tub. I just don't know which part of my hair is which. Hopefully a stylist can tell me.
larry3344
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interesting....i was writing a blog on this exact subject. A lt of mainstream naturalistas have some kind of curl/coil patterns. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who markets to the pure cottony hair type. People want to aspire to wash n go hair while seeming like they market to everyone when they dont.
This is why people shouldn't be overly critical of those who claim they have tougher hair. 4C no definition hair naturalista needs are not met in the natural hair community and now are being pimped for views that is not cool
This is why people shouldn't be overly critical of those who claim they have tougher hair. 4C no definition hair naturalista needs are not met in the natural hair community and now are being pimped for views that is not cool
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Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
@MizzBFly @AbsyBlvd I agree. Absy, I've always defined you as 4A. Both of you have O and S curls but seem to have more of a cottony or threads texture. I unfortunately, 4A is kinky-curly hair; depending on the style, hair can appear curly or kinky. After a few days, 4A hair can just begin to look neglected and take on a kinkier appearance, but it's just how the type acts.
This is my hair on wash day. I put my hair in dookie twist and wear a bun all week. This is what my hair looks like the next week.
This is a regular twist out. And what happens a week later? The first picture. I also have thicker hair strands, so that can also create more weight, further elongating hair.
MizzBFly
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See this looks like me too ...larger coils in the front smaller coils in the back...lol this tread is insightful, cool & confusing at the same time tho
MizzBFly
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Unfortunately my A&$...your hair is gorgeous sis
Shiny still after a full week? that's amazeballs Even if you had to remoisturize your hair is truth. It's obvious you take care of it very well!! 
Coilystep
@imperial_acquisitions
You're hair is beautiful. This thread has me all confused, I'm loving all the pictures. You're coils look similar to mind.
@Saludable84 I've always thought our hair was very similar also.
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Are your sheds more like "S" instead of "O"? I think your hair is in the wirey range, determined to defy gravity.
VinaytheMrs
Loving Life
I almost see my hair in yours but I could be wishful thinking. My individual strands are finer than sewing thread:
VinaytheMrs
Loving Life
just posted a photo of old wash and go sheds.
MizzBFly
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Is that freshly washed or unstretched?
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Your hair is mostly "S" (which I affectionately call kinky-wavy or crinkles for the few on my head) and wants to coil up on the ends. This is similar to whites who have wavy hair but the ends curl for some reason (visual representation only). That junction of coil and crinkle is the weakest point on your strands. Dry combing is your greatest enemy, right?
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Unfortunately my A&$...your hair is gorgeous sis
Thank you
Seriously though.... I youre 4A
Alma Petra
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So lovely, both the lady and the hair!
I think that my natural hair is also similar to yours guys but I don't get as much definition unfortunately except in small areas. So what is the consensus on what we are to be called now? 4a? And the parts that refuse to clump are 4c?
ETA: funny how I have for long thought that I'm 3c/4a and I'm now considering the possibility of being 4c in some (or maybe most) areas! Wow!
bubbles12345
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I have both S and O shaped shed hairs. Now I don't know my hair type anymore. So confused. Lol :cries:
Beautiful type 4 hair porn though!
Beautiful type 4 hair porn though!
MizzBFly
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Thank you
Seriously though.... I youre 4A
Owwww IDK my 4c claim is strong
let me go sit in a corner and revaluate some thangs... I may have to digress my stance 
beingofserenity
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Mine is too. I thought it was normal for hair to be finer than sewing thread. And fine hair is smaller than half the width of sewing thread. Coarse hair would be the same width as sewing thread? I guess my hair is fine as well?
MizzBFly
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MizzBFly
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Thanks but I honestly, truly believe all textured hair can curl or clump 4c or otherwise. It's just finding the technique and product
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Alma Petra
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Amen to that, sis! I haven't yet given up on my natural hair. I love clumping and definition. But to be honest I have only been dealing with the roots so far. I think I should transition long term to see what I can get.
So what's your technique for definition? I have tried clay washing, oil rinsing and shingling so far and they all don't do nothing for me
The only thing that works for me for definition is relaxer 
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Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
My theory for this (just a theory) is that since 4A hair is more likely to be LoPo and 4c seems to be more likely HiPo, it accounts for why 4A's have similarities that contrast with 4C's which create the major differences.
If 4A is likely to be LoPo it will hold more moisture and won't lose its shape easily. Whereas 4c is HiPo, will lose moisture and lose the curl (shrinkage, kinky) easily.
Likely doesn't mean it will always happen. But I'd researched this once and started putting some of this together
VinaytheMrs
Loving Life
I'm so fascinated with this thread! @Sharpened so I have s curls. Ok I'm going to research that more!
@MizzBFly my hair was dry but that's old wash and go hair so the product makes it curl up.
@beingofserenity yes I believe that's the indicator of fine hair. My strands are definitely tiny in diameter way more so than a coffee stirer.
@MizzBFly my hair was dry but that's old wash and go hair so the product makes it curl up.
@beingofserenity yes I believe that's the indicator of fine hair. My strands are definitely tiny in diameter way more so than a coffee stirer.
flyygirlll2
Lioness mane
I've read through this thread and I do agree with others who said that the hair typing system is flawed. I think my hair is 4a/b. It has curls/coils, coarse, and high shrinkage.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Your strands are super thick.
flyygirlll2
Lioness mane
I know, it can be an annoyance
. I remember during the Komaza analysis Jen was telling me how very thick my strands were. Maybe that's why I don't need to use too much protein 
Mische
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I love this thread. I want to play too! I've always considered my hair to be 4c. Both attached pictures are my freshly washed wet hair (although the first one looks dry... it's not). You'll see the very, very, ends of some pieces will resemble a super tiny curl, but that's it. My individual strands are extremely fine. A lot of them are practically see-through.
I am past waist length and I STILL struggle with detangling my wet hair. I see folks talking about combs "gliding" through their wet hair with conditioner applied and I cannot. get. that. to. work. My hair type simply doesn't seem like it can be combed much, so I generally finger detangle a little and then just get to it when it's dry.
flyygirlll2
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Mische
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The utmost of compliments coming from you with all that lush hair! Thanks, lady!
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