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OLAPLEX: Hair Game Changer?

naturalyogini

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Thanks for replying.

I believe that Olaplex is designed to work in conjunction with you coloring process, to be done at the same time. How, I am not sure as I do not color my hair. I do believe it is intended to be a preventative measure to help limit some of the damage the hair may sustain during the dyeing process. I would suggest that you consider to give Olaplex No. 0 and No. 3 one more try. The next time you dye your hair pull out your Olaplex 0 and 3! Adding them on he same day you dye your hair might extend your process time, but perhaps using it in conjunction with the dye may bring about a more beneficial, noticeable change that you can see and feel. What are your thoughts?
I got my hair done At a salon I will never go to again. I kept asking her about Olaplex and she said she only adds it to bleach or highlights. Needless to say, she was a disaster.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
I got my hair done At a salon I will never go to again. I kept asking her about Olaplex and she said she only adds it to bleach or highlights. Needless to say, she was a disaster.

I am so sorry for your experience. We have all been there. Thus, I can truly empathize with you. I have found that setbacks sometimes put us in the best positions for GREAT comebacks. What is your next move as it relates to your hair?
 

naturalyogini

Well-Known Member
I am so sorry for your experience. We have all been there. Thus, I can truly empathize with you. I have found that setbacks sometimes put us in the best positions for GREAT comebacks. What is your next move as it relates to your hair?
Thank you. I'm going to do twist outs when I have to go into the office. Otherwise a slap cap. I'll keep using Olaplex every other week. Alternating with Amika the Kure. (Love that dc) and Adowa Blue Tansy dc.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Thank you. I'm going to do twist outs when I have to go into the office. Otherwise a slap cap. I'll keep using Olaplex every other week. Alternating with Amika the Kure. (Love that dc) and Adowa Blue Tansy dc.
Good luck to you regarding your hair. Sounds like you got a plan!
 

naturalyogini

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I used 0, 3, 4 and 5 today. Hair felt better after rinsing out 0,3,4. What I did differently is that I didn't pre-shampoo. I used on dirty hair. After using 5 my hair felt strong but dry so I used MJSSB. Hair felt wonderful.

Still losing hair, but I think it's a scalp issue in my crown area. My scalp is itchy and sore. I think I have contact dermatitis, from a new hair oil??
 

TLC1020

Well-Known Member
I purchased 0,3,4,5 and will be using them when I take my braids down in a few days. I'll report back with my take on the products.
 

Fine 4s

Well-Known Member
Hey Olaplex ladies, I'm going to try my hand at this {expensive} thing this year. Which one do I use for anti breakage and how do I use it? I think someone told me it's number 3? And it's not a protein treatment right? I plan to continue using ApHogee 2 step every 6-8 weeks and the 2 minute in between or as needed. I do not want to over do it so when shall I use the Olaplex? @Chicoro ? anyone? @Theresamonet ?
 
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Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Hey Olaplex ladies, I'm going to try my hand at this {expensive} thing this year. Which one do I use for anti breakage and how do I use it? I think someone told me it's number 3? And it's not a protein treatment right? I plan to continue using ApHogee 2 step every 6-8 weeks and the 2 minute in between or as needed. I do not want to over do it so when shall I use the Olaplex? @Chicoro ? anyone? @Theresamonet ?

I would suggest Olaplex No. 0 and Olaplex No. 3.
 

DVAntDany

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So I’ve tested Olaplex 0 and 3 in sections of my hair since November. 0+3= silky feeling hair while wet. 3 alone = hair that feels ever so slightly strengthened/firmer. I even feel like 0+3 on dirty hair works better than 3 alone on clean damp hair.

At first, I was hesitant to use this on all of my hair. I started noticing that products were not absorbing well into the initial test quadrant. I already had an issue with products sitting on top my hair and didn’t want to exacerbate this feature.

The only real improvement I can see for my hair is that shampoo glides through my hair effortlessly. I felt like my beloved Innersense Hydrating Hair Bath forsake me when I bought the 10oz. The shampoo made my hair tangle at the roots and no longer gave soft feeling hair. Since using Olaplex, it is back to working like normal.

I’ve seen #3 really strengthen my mom’s relaxed yet still curly hair. Since my hair is not compromised, I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to tell a difference. I surely can’t tell a difference when using moisturizing deep conditioners. So I was surprised when I could continuto feel the difference after many shampoos.

Recently, I used 4, 5, 6 and 7. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I feel these products are too light weight for wearing my hair straight. The slightest gust of wind had my hair flying especially in my face.

I could tell the products are concentrated. I needed very little of #5 to detangle all of my head. I as well as my stylist use so much AG boost in comparison. Even just a little #6 on damp hair left my hands feeling slippery when removing clamps/clips.

I can’t say it’s the end all be all yet. I just like the insurance it claims to have. It’s good to know I can’t mess my hair up by using it.
 

TLC1020

Well-Known Member
I just used Olaplex #0,3,4,5,8, they all worked great together. I like that my hair feel strong and healthy! What I am going to do now going forward is, use # 3 as part of my routine when I shampoo & deep condition on wash days and use the other #'s once a month. #3 is definitely a staple for me since I'm relaxed and use hair color.
 

Sarabellam

Well-Known Member
I bit the bullet and bought No 0 & 3. I slept in #3 overnight partly to see what would happen and partly because I was tired.

Upon rinsing in the morning I first thought that it had not done much. Then I took a shed hair and tried a “stress test” where I see how much my hair fights back from breaking. I wrap one end on each index finger and pull in opposite directions. I have 4b/a fine hair so my hair doesn’t put up much of a fight. But this time it did. Even while soaking wet.

Then I styled my hair into 4 braids plus one twist as “leave out” for my satin lined turban. My twist is juicy and shiny. I’m very happy with the product. My hair isn’t doing anything outside of reality. However, it is acting like it’s “optimized state” that I see when the henna/ protein/ moisture stars align.
 

jamaica68

Well-Known Member
I colored my hair today with henna and I did use my Olaplex steps 1,2 and 4 today. Olaplex results seem to be accumulative for my hair.

I noticed a tiny amount of breakage after the first 1 or 2 times of using it but now that I'm past that, my hair is behaving much much better. I'll keep Olaplex in my haircare rotation for coloring for a while yet :yep:.
Glad it's working out for you.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
Bloody hell! But I'm not looking to get preggers now or in the near future lol.

Olaplex fans are being warned over a banned ingredient linked to infertility - which Olaplex no longer use - but what are the facts?​

Olaplex fans are being warned over a banned ingredient linked to infertility – which Olaplex no longer use – but what are the facts?

Olaplex became an instant holy grail after its launch in 2014. Its 'bond-building' technology was something we had never seen in the hair world before, and it was love at first use when serial bleachers realised they could lighten their hair without the inevitable dryness and damage they were used to.

Then came yet more products in the line-up, from salon-only treatments to at-home conditioners – including the No.3 Hair Perfector, which counts the likes of Kim Kardashian and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as fans, no less.

But while beloved, the product has been the talk of the beauty community of late for different reasons – after it was revealed that the original formula contained an ingredient called butylphenyl methylpropional, or 'lilial', a fragrance compound that is set to be banned for cosmetic use in the EU from March 2022 due to safety concerns.

Videos circulated on TikTok as many shared that the ingredient was toxic and linked to infertility – and more claimed that Olaplex was set to be completely banned in the UK. So what's really happening, and should we be worried?

What is butylphenyl methylpropional and why is it being banned?​

Butylphenyl methylpropional, or lilial, is a chemical compound that's usually used for fragrance purposes within a number of products.

The ingredient is set to be removed from all cosmetic products in the EU from 1 March 2022, after the European Commission published a report on the 'classification, labelling and packaging of substances and mixtures' in May 2020. It listed butylphenyl methylpropional as 'Repr. 1B' - which refers to a substance that's toxic for reproduction, meaning it poses potential risks to fertility.

 
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Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Bloody hell! But I'm not looking to get preggers now or in the near future lol.

Olaplex fans are being warned over a banned ingredient linked to infertility - which Olaplex no longer use - but what are the facts?​

Olaplex fans are being warned over a banned ingredient linked to infertility – which Olaplex no longer use – but what are the facts?

Olaplex became an instant holy grail after its launch in 2014. Its 'bond-building' technology was something we had never seen in the hair world before, and it was love at first use when serial bleachers realised they could lighten their hair without the inevitable dryness and damage they were used to.

Then came yet more products in the line-up, from salon-only treatments to at-home conditioners – including the No.3 Hair Perfector, which counts the likes of Kim Kardashian and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as fans, no less.

But while beloved, the product has been the talk of the beauty community of late for different reasons – after it was revealed that the original formula contained an ingredient called butylphenyl methylpropional, or 'lilial', a fragrance compound that is set to be banned for cosmetic use in the EU from March 2022 due to safety concerns.

Videos circulated on TikTok as many shared that the ingredient was toxic and linked to infertility – and more claimed that Olaplex was set to be completely banned in the UK. So what's really happening, and should we be worried?

What is butylphenyl methylpropional and why is it being banned?​

Butylphenyl methylpropional, or lilial, is a chemical compound that's usually used for fragrance purposes within a number of products.

The ingredient is set to be removed from all cosmetic products in the EU from 1 March 2022, after the European Commission published a report on the 'classification, labelling and packaging of substances and mixtures' in May 2020. It listed butylphenyl methylpropional as 'Repr. 1B' - which refers to a substance that's toxic for reproduction, meaning it poses potential risks to fertility.


Interesting and thanks for posting! I think about all the poison that is dumped in hair products geared toward women with afro-textured hair. Even hair dyes, used by women of all hair types, are problematic and interestingly not regulated by by the FDA. They may be monitored by the FDA, but are not regulated which are two different things.

With all that being said,
Olaplex won a multi-million dollar suit agains L'Oreal who took a peek into their formulation because L'Oreal was interested in purchasing the company. The deal fell through, but L'Oreal allegedly stole the formula. Hence, the basis for the lawsuit raised and won, albeit temporarily, by the original creators of Olaplex. L'Oreal is the most powerful cosmetic company in Europe.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
Interesting and thanks for posting! I think about all the poison that is dumped in hair products geared toward women with afro-textured hair. Even hair dyes, used by women of all hair types, are problematic and interestingly not regulated by by the FDA. They may be monitored by the FDA, but are not regulated which are two different things.

With all that being said,
Olaplex won a multi-million dollar suit agains L'Oreal who took a peek into their formulation because L'Oreal was interested in purchasing the company. The deal fell through, but L'Oreal allegedly stole the formula. Hence, the basis for the lawsuit raised and won, albeit temporarily, by the original creators of Olaplex. L'Oreal is the most powerful cosmetic company in Europe.

Also EU is pretty stringent on this sort of thing and they will quickly ban a product if there is a hint of an issue. But there was no talk (I believe) in Olaplex being banned in the US and the ingredient has been removed. The ingredient was linked to fragrance rather than one of the more powerhouse ingredients so I'll still use it.

Interesting about L'oreal - do they have to buy everything? smh
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Also EU is pretty stringent on this sort of thing and they will quickly ban a product if there is a hint of an issue. But there was no talk (I believe) in Olaplex being banned in the US and the ingredient has been removed. The ingredient was linked to fragrance rather than one of the more powerhouse ingredients so I'll still use it.

Interesting about L'oreal - do they have to buy everything? smh
I hope they don't ban it in Europe because I am in France and I just fell in love with Olaplex.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
"Studies of lilial have indicated that it may cause adverse effects when ingested by animals — meaning there are no such studies that can definitely say how it affects humans who rub it on their heads. Moreover, the ingredient has been on the EU’s restriction list for a number of years, though only now is the ban taking effect."
Source: https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/banne...linked-to-infertility-sparks-tiktok-backlash/



Follow the money...
Cliff Notes:
Olaplex sued and won against L'Oreal for stealing its patented technology. Seemingly, unbeknownst to L'Oreal, one of the original two founders of Olaplex was well versed in not only biochemistry, but also in [international] patent processes. This helped this Olaplex 'David' to take on and win a $100 Million against this L'Oreal 'Goliath' which is THE largest cosmetic company in the world. You think that's going to sit well: not only is L'Oreal called a thief, liar and cheater on record, L'Oreal was not able to put out a product line based upon this similar Olaplex technology. Olaplex, quick and nimble, removed the 'offending' ingredient which was used in tiny minuscule quantities, from its Olaplex No. 3 product, prior to the EU ban. Touché! And checkmate! This isn't about women's health. It's about money and power.


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Longer Story:
L'Oréal Paris is a French personal care company headquartered in Clichy, Hauts-de-Seine with a registered office in Paris. It is the world's largest cosmetics company and has developed activities in the field concentrating on hair colour, skin care, sun protection, make-up, perfume, and hair care.
Source: https://www.loreal-paris.fr


Round 1!
Following a week-long trial in August 2019, a federal jury in Delaware found that L’Oreal had willfully infringed two patents for products at the core of Olaplex’s business. In addition to infringing Olaplex’s patents for its novel bonding system, a multi-step process aimed at strengthening and protecting hair, L’Oreal was found to have also stolen trade secrets from its younger and smaller rival, and breached the confidentiality agreement it entered into in connection with discussions between the two companies about a potential acquisition. In the August 2019 verdict, the jury determined that Olaplex was entitled to nearly $100 million in damages ($22 million for the breach of contract, $22 million for trade secret misappropriation, and almost $47 million for patent infringement).
Source: https://www.thefashionlaw.com/lorea...-olaplex-patent-trade-secret-case-tossed-out/


Round 2!
(Reuters) - The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit has tossed a $66 million Delaware federal court ruling for Olaplex Inc, which had accused L'Oreal USA Inc of stealing its trade secrets and infringing patents related to its hair-bleaching technology.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/le...al-66-million-hair-bleach-ip-loss-2021-05-07/


Round 3!
“While L’Oréal has been successful arguing for a technical legal reversal of the trade secret verdict on appeal, we stand by the jurors’ unanimous decision on the claim after hearing the full facts and evidence in this case," said Olaplex’s Chief Operating Officer and Chief Legal Officer Tiffany Walden. "The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the validity of key claims L’Oréal has already once been found to willfully infringe and estopped L’Oréal from further challenging them. Olaplex looks forward to the opportunity to again prove L’Oréal’s willful infringement in the retrial of its case and will appeal the Federal Circuit’s decision related to the theft of trade secrets.”
Source: https://www.happi.com/contents/view...12/olaplex-to-appeal-loreal-lawsuit-decision/
 

Sarabellam

Well-Known Member
Just noticed this Olaplex, Lilial controversy today. I grabbed my bottle and did not see it listed. However I noticed a few other things that make me wonder whether this product still contains lilial.

1. Oleplex is doing damage control as their stock is plummeting. Multiple sources clarify that the product was already removed in the UK and EU and the company “plans” to phase it out world wide. The US is a big market so if it had been phased out in the US, they would be pushing this fact towards every news station.

2. Lilial is only required to be listed by name if it makes up >0.01% of the formula.

3. Olaplex used a ~0.012% concentration in their original formula.

4. My bottle of olaplex does not list Lilial but fragrance has jumped higher of the ingredients list and is one ingredient spot higher than the original formula’s Lilial.

I suspect that they did a mini reformulation, lowering the Lilial percentage, to hide the Lilial until they can do a true reformulation in the future.

Will I finish my bottle? Probably. Known and suspected hormone dysregulators and fertility toxic ingredients are quiet common in hair care products. Many hide under the fragrance title or use the fact that it was originally derived from a natural ingredients to mask the danger.

If I continue to use my small bottle I won’t be leaving the stuff on for hours and I will try to avoid my scalp when applying. The first few inches of hair are so young and healthy compared to the ends that they are unlikely to benefit much from the product anyway. I don’t have heat damage, bleach, or perm on my roots so this is my plan!
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
The Olaplex No. 3 ingredient is listed as butylphenyl methylpropional. It is not listed as lilial here in France. I looked on my newest bottle and
butylphenyl methylpropional is the last ingredient on the list.

butylphenyl methylpropional

Lilial (a trade name for lily aldehyde, also known as lysmeral) is a chemical compound commonly used as a perfume in cosmetic preparations and laundry powders, often under the name butylphenyl methylpropional.
 

TLC1020

Well-Known Member
Looked at the ingredients on my Olaplex bottles and the fragrance is not listed on any of my No. 3's, I did read on IG that Olaplex did phase out the ingredient from No. 3, so I'm not sure if what's on the shelves already have the ingredient removed.
 

jamaica68

Well-Known Member
I just checked the two bottles I have and butylphenyl methylpropional is listed on one of my bottles, I'm currently giving it the side eye. :rolleyes:
 
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