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OLAPLEX: Hair Game Changer?

Lucia

Well-Known Member
"Studies of lilial have indicated that it may cause adverse effects when ingested by animals — meaning there are no such studies that can definitely say how it affects humans who rub it on their heads. Moreover, the ingredient has been on the EU’s restriction list for a number of years, though only now is the ban taking effect."
Source: https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/banne...linked-to-infertility-sparks-tiktok-backlash/



Follow the money...
Cliff Notes:
Olaplex sued and won against L'Oreal for stealing its patented technology. Seemingly, unbeknownst to L'Oreal, one of the original two founders of Olaplex was well versed in not only biochemistry, but also in [international] patent processes. This helped this Olaplex 'David' to take on and win a $100 Million against this L'Oreal 'Goliath' which is THE largest cosmetic company in the world. You think that's going to sit well: not only is L'Oreal called a thief, liar and cheater on record, L'Oreal was not able to put out a product line based upon this similar Olaplex technology. Olaplex, quick and nimble, removed the 'offending' ingredient which was used in tiny minuscule quantities, from its Olaplex No. 3 product, prior to the EU ban. Touché! And checkmate! This isn't about women's health. It's about money and power.


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Longer Story:
L'Oréal Paris is a French personal care company headquartered in Clichy, Hauts-de-Seine with a registered office in Paris. It is the world's largest cosmetics company and has developed activities in the field concentrating on hair colour, skin care, sun protection, make-up, perfume, and hair care.
Source: https://www.loreal-paris.fr


Round 1!
Following a week-long trial in August 2019, a federal jury in Delaware found that L’Oreal had willfully infringed two patents for products at the core of Olaplex’s business. In addition to infringing Olaplex’s patents for its novel bonding system, a multi-step process aimed at strengthening and protecting hair, L’Oreal was found to have also stolen trade secrets from its younger and smaller rival, and breached the confidentiality agreement it entered into in connection with discussions between the two companies about a potential acquisition. In the August 2019 verdict, the jury determined that Olaplex was entitled to nearly $100 million in damages ($22 million for the breach of contract, $22 million for trade secret misappropriation, and almost $47 million for patent infringement).
Source: https://www.thefashionlaw.com/lorea...-olaplex-patent-trade-secret-case-tossed-out/


Round 2!
(Reuters) - The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit has tossed a $66 million Delaware federal court ruling for Olaplex Inc, which had accused L'Oreal USA Inc of stealing its trade secrets and infringing patents related to its hair-bleaching technology.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/le...al-66-million-hair-bleach-ip-loss-2021-05-07/


Round 3!
“While L’Oréal has been successful arguing for a technical legal reversal of the trade secret verdict on appeal, we stand by the jurors’ unanimous decision on the claim after hearing the full facts and evidence in this case," said Olaplex’s Chief Operating Officer and Chief Legal Officer Tiffany Walden. "The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the validity of key claims L’Oréal has already once been found to willfully infringe and estopped L’Oréal from further challenging them. Olaplex looks forward to the opportunity to again prove L’Oréal’s willful infringement in the retrial of its case and will appeal the Federal Circuit’s decision related to the theft of trade secrets.”
Source: https://www.happi.com/contents/view...12/olaplex-to-appeal-loreal-lawsuit-decision/
Hi Chicoro :)
Good to see you still here sharing the wisdom.
There was a news segment on this that ran a while ago and at the end both women a journalist and a dermatologist admitted to using Olaplex and that they would continue. The Doc even said the percentage was below any harmful amount. And if it’s an older bottle and you’re worried dump it and get the new one. (Although I don’t know how that could,happen the bottles are small) on the old bottles it was listed last and at less than 1%. and it wasn’t an active or main ingredient and The newer bottles don’t have it.

Sounds like L’Oréal is getting its revenge and trying to squeeze Olaplex from the France the EU then everywhere else. Why all of this noise after the ingredient has already been removed.
If they L’Oréal can squeeze them enough to shut them down, then they can come out with their own stolen version of Olaplex and corner that part of the market without lawsuits. But Olaplex is a salon staple and now a home staple for those that bleach, any other chem processes and those who have damage orjust want to prevent damage. L’Oréal can’t stop Olaplex and now the world knows about their backstabbing ways. Not a good look. I doubt they’ll get many partnerships now.
 
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abioni

Well-Known Member
Where are you all buying no 1 and 2? I googled and Editors Pick and some others came up. I'm concerned about authenticity. Please PM me where you bought yours if you don't want to post it on here.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
I saw this when it dropped but I already have so many serums I don't see myself using it anytime soon. If you do try it please give a review!

I like the sound of this because whilst I have serums, I don't have a bond builder serum. I like the thought of a bond builder serum that I can apply and leave in until my next wash; that's very appealing to me. The added heat protection is a bonus.

Yes I will certainly give a review.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
When you guys use No 3 do you leave it on for the recommended 10 minutes or an hour or overnight etc?

I normally keep it on for a minimum of an hour.
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
It was kind of just meh to be honest. Didn’t have a lot of slip, and didn’t do anything that my other DCs I use regularly do. For the price point I wasn’t blown away. I’ve only used it once though I need to revisit it.
Thank you for the review. I was planning on purchasing but now I decided against it.
 

oneastrocurlie

Well-Known Member
When you guys use No 3 do you leave it on for the recommended 10 minutes or an hour or overnight etc?

I normally keep it on for a minimum of an hour.

Between 10 mins and an hour. If I'm zooming through my wash day just 10. If I'm spending the day chilling, I'll put it in and do other things, then proceed. I've haven't left it in overnight.
 

GGsKin

Well-Known Member
When you guys use No 3 do you leave it on for the recommended 10 minutes or an hour or overnight etc?

I normally keep it on for a minimum of an hour.
I do anywhere from 15mins, to an hour or more, depending on whether I'm having a quick wash day, or taking my sweet time. I've also applied late and left overnight.
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
I just did a stand alone treatment. I had very little breakage this wash day. I think I need to do this at least every 1-2 months especially since my hair is now chemically treated
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
I just bought the purple shampoo to see if it helps with the brassiness in my henna bleached hair and also to pair with my #3 treatment
 

GettingKinky

Well-Known Member
When you guys use No 3 do you leave it on for the recommended 10 minutes or an hour or overnight etc?

I normally keep it on for a minimum of an hour.
I stick pretty close to the 10 minutes. If I get distracted maybe it will stay on for 20-30 minutes.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
That serum is beautiful. My hair is noticeably different, texture is very soft and silky smooth and I didn't even use heat after, I just air dried. It was a good air dry though, didn't need to manipulate the hair as much with the combing, ends nicely hydrated and looked even better the next day and that is always my test of a product - how it holds up in the hair the next day(s).
 

demlew

Well-Known Member
When you guys use No 3 do you leave it on for the recommended 10 minutes or an hour or overnight etc?

I normally keep it on for a minimum of an hour.
I’ve slept in it more than once - usually when I’m 8 or 9 weeks into my relaxer and need all the softening/conditioning help I can get lol. Otherwise I leave it for 1-2 hours.
 

Bette Davis Eyes

The "OG" Product Junkie
It was kind of just meh to be honest. Didn’t have a lot of slip, and didn’t do anything that my other DCs I use regularly do. For the price point I wasn’t blown away. I’ve only used it once though I need to revisit it.
I used this tonight as a rinse out 10 minutes in a steamy shower. Nothing to call home about for the price point.

I used the serum after. I love the consistency and how it spread. I’m air drying in braids tonight and then will stretch the braids with the revair tomorrow. I’ll see how it goes then.
 

Bette Davis Eyes

The "OG" Product Junkie
My hair tonight isn’t highly moisturized which I didn’t expect but it’s not bad after only using the serum and letting it mostly air dry

Today some of my braids were still damp before I used the revair to dry them and stretch. I would use the serum again. Not a repurchase for the deep conditioner for the price point and amount in the bottle

I will keep using 0 and 3 to see how it performs over time.
 

Mapleoats

Well-Known Member
Anybody notice a huge difference between using the professional 1&2 treatment vs 0&3 for a stand alone treatment?

I’ve trying to get 1&2 but if there’s not much difference I guess I’ll stay with 0&3.
I use 1&2 and the difference in my hair is immediate. I don’t bother with 3 anymore. Haven’t tried 0. If you are trying to save money you could use 1&3. 2&3 are very similar, 2 is just slightly more concentrated than 3. 1 is extremely concentrated, it’s basically just water, the active ingredient, and preservative. There is no replacement for 1 imo.
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
Anybody notice a huge difference between using the professional 1&2 treatment vs 0&3 for a stand alone treatment?

I’ve trying to get 1&2 but if there’s not much difference I guess I’ll stay with 0&3.


I've never tried the 0 and 3 but I just started using the No 1 and 2 regularly. Hopefully I can see less breakage and retain my length by the end of the year. The 1 and 2 has helped me recover from heat damage many times in the past though.
 

oneastrocurlie

Well-Known Member
I use 1&2 and the difference in my hair is immediate. I don’t bother with 3 anymore. Haven’t tried 0. If you are trying to save money you could use 1&3. 2&3 are very similar, 2 is just slightly more concentrated than 3. 1 is extremely concentrated, it’s basically just water, the active ingredient, and preservative. There is no replacement for 1 imo.

I think 0 is a less concentrated 1. Same with 2 and 3 like you mentioned.
 

Rastafarai

Well-Known Member
Just bought the #0, 3 and 8. Looking forward to my next wash day to try these!

Game changers! Didn't think my curls could be any more defined until trying 0 and 3 combined. What's intriguing is I can get my hair to look so moisturized, curly and bouncy without heat or steam. I just placed the 0/3 on, let it sit for up to 1 hour, went about my usual wash/condish routine in the shower (added #8) and the curls were curling onto each other. Less shed hair as well, and for those that did shed the strands appeared thicker and stronger. Hair density is significantly improved. I just re-upped on all three, and also got #4 and #5.
 
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Aggie

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My next Olaplex purchase will be the 4 in 1 Moisture Treatment. It's a bit costly but it's 4 in 1 so it will be well worth the investment plus a little goes a long way.

It provides:

74% More Moisture

84% More Shine

84% More Smoothness

94% More Body

All of this sounds really good to me and my hair could use all the above everyday of the week :yep:
 

demlew

Well-Known Member
My next Olaplex purchase will be the 4 in 1 Moisture Treatment. It's a bit costly but it's 4 in 1 so it will be well worth the investment plus a little goes a long way.

It provides:

74% More Moisture

84% More Shine

84% More Smoothness

94% More Body

All of this sounds really good to me and my hair could use all the above everyday of the week :yep:
I was just thinking about this product. I wonder what are the main differences between this and No. 8. I need an excel sheet with the differences.

Have you tried #9? (Anyone can chime in.) I’m placing a large order, so I’m trying to decide if 2 and 3 are similar so I can buy the large bottle. So far, my list is 0, 2 or 3, 4, 7, either 8 or the 4-in-1, and maybe 9. That sentence looks like it’s in code lol
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
Apparently the ingredients are the same, but clearly the 4 in 1 represents more value for money. I could use 4 in 1 and not be so conservative in my usage.
 
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