We're juicy lol. Keeping that nice moisture/protein balance! Nobody can't tell us nothing lol. Two people (strangers) touched my hair the others day (with my permission) one black man, said my hair was baby soft! The other was a black woman at the beauty supply, she took a picture of the activator I told her about then she took it to the checkout and bought it!!! "Juicy fruit".I think so too, and we're using similar products ( I peeped in the curl activator thread). Something is working because our hair is pretty and moisturized.