Never said there was no racism in Canada or no one has attributed such comments to me. I am almost certain you would not find a 'Canada is the most racist country in North America says study' headline either. But either way, I would not care. I am not into denying or minimizing racism anywhere and regardless of who it is directed at.So these things could never possible happen in Canada?
I googled Canada+racism and alot of stuff came up
Again, there is racim everywhere so....
FlowerHairI haven't personally experienced blatant racism, but we do have one racist party that is now in parliament. I think people here are extremely passive aggressive so they won't come out and say anything to your face, but it's definitely there under the surface.
The more fractured we are, the easier it is for others to run over us, and for some reason many people seem to be keen on trying to run over us.I saw this in the paper this morning and the headline was kind of apologetic. It's crazy how these things keep happening all over the world, in the same ways and with the same symbols and oppressions. What do we do? In the last thread, OP said she had given up on the idea of some kind of pan-African movement across the diasporas. I am beginning to feel more and more that this is needed.
I think the best way to help with that is with sharing experiences, that's something that we're good at here on LHCF even if we are sometimes very passionate about it. I've learned so much about being Black in different parts of the world, it's been eye opening to me.nysister , and 'we' seem just as keen on fracturing ourselves.
Still doubt it. To me there is just too much divisiveness and diversity within the diaspora as a whole and too much variation in laws and culture for any kind of movement. Maybe through the EU but i doubt that too. More likely movements will be national and with luck strategies and tactics will be shared.I saw this in the paper this morning and the headline was kind of apologetic. It's crazy how these things keep happening all over the world, in the same ways and with the same symbols and oppressions. What do we do? In the last thread, OP said she had given up on the idea of some kind of pan-African movement across the diasporas. I am beginning to feel more and more that this is needed.
me too, but i so see why we need one. no matter where "we" go around the world, it's the same ish, with no advocacy, recourse . . . we barely even react anymore. Frustrating.erplexedStill doubt it. To me there is just too much divisiveness and diversity within the diaspora as a whole and too much variation in laws and culture for any kind of movement. Maybe through the EU but i doubt that too. More likely movements will be national and with luck strategies and tactics will be shared.
Even though the world largely looks at us as a group of African descended people we don't see ourselves as a common people. We share a skin color (for the most part) but have few cultural similarities.me too, but i so see why we need one. no matter where "we" go around the world, it's the same ish, with no advocacy, recourse . . . we barely even react anymore. Frustrating.erplexed
Yes I do feel a tension growing and I'm keeping my eyes open. Nazi Germany was only 60 years ago, people don't change that quickly...
Curacao is beautiful too as is St. Vincent & the Grenadines (especially the Grenadines), Trinidad, Grenada and the Bahamas! Check them out.
I totally agree. Ingrained traits are hard to break when one is taught that they're okay even if they aren't.Yes I do feel a tension growing and I'm keeping my eyes open. Nazi Germany was only 60 years ago, people don't change that quickly...
Barbados or somewhere else in the Caribbean lol. It's just my dream destination.
According to Hélène Adeline Guerber and other historians, the origin of Sinterklaas and his helpers have been linked by some to the Wild Hunt of Odin. While riding the white horse Sleipnir, he flew through the air as the leader of the Wild Hunt. He was always accompanied by two black ravens, Huginn and Muninn. These helpers would listen, just like Zwarte Piet, at the chimneys of the homes they visited to tell Odin about the good and bad behavior of the mortals below.
Illustration from Jan Schenkman's book Sint Nikolaas en zijn Knecht
The Saint Nicholas tradition contains a number of elements that are not ecclesiastical in origin. In medieval iconography, Saint Nicholas is sometimes presented as taming a chained demon, who may or may not be black. However, no hint of a companion, demon, servant, or any other human or human-like fixed companion to the Saint is found in visual and textual sources from the Netherlands from the 16th until the 19th century. According to a long-standing theory first proposed by Karl Meisen, Zwarte Piet and his equivalents in Germanic Europe were originally presented as one or more enslaved demons forced to assist their captor. These chained and fire-scorched demons may have been redeveloped as black-skinned humans during the early 19th-century in the Netherlands in the likeness of Moors who work as servants for Saint Nicholas.
One or more demons working as helpers for the saint can still be found in various Austrian, German, Swiss, Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, and Polish Saint Nicholas traditions in the characters of Krampus, Père Fouettard, Schmutzli, Perchta, Knecht Ruprecht, Rubbels, Hanstrapp, Little Babushka, Pelzebock, Klaubauf, and Belsnickel. These companions of Saint Nicholas are often depicted as a group of closely related figures who accompany Saint Nicholas through the territories formerly controlled by the Holy Roman Empire. The characters act as foils to the benevolent gift-giver, or strict disciplinarians who threaten to thrash or abduct disobedient children. Mythologist Jacob Grimm associated the character with the pre-Christian spirit kobold, who could be either benevolent or malicious.
The introduction of Zwarte Piet did coincide, by and large, with a change in the depiction of the Sinterklaas character. Prior to this change, he was often quite strict toward poorly behaved children and often presented as a sort of bogeyman. Many of the terrifying characteristics that were later associated with Zwarte Piet were often attributed to him.. The presentation of a holy man in this light was troubling for both teachers and priests. After the introduction of Zwarte Piet as Sinterklaas' servant, both characters adopted more gentle personas.
The lyrics of older traditional Sinterklaas songs, still sung today, warn that Sinterklaas and his assistant will leave well-behaved children presents but punish those who have been naughty. They might even take very poorly behaved children to their homeland of Spain in burlap sacks where, according to legend, they'll be forced to assist them in their workshop for an entire season or longer. These songs and stories also warn that a child who has been only slightly naughty will receive a bundle of birch twigs or a lump of coal instead of gifts.