Radio host compares three black famous women to shades of toast. Can't make this stuff up.

Everything Zen

Well-Known Member
^^^ No need- he got fired. That’s exactly what should happen. When you have a good idea that your need to be racist is going to mess with your coins that’s :censored:

Then again- I might believe some of them when they say they have no idea that something is racist or that they are behaving in a racist manner to be shocked at the outcome, because I would be cleaning out my desk as soon as the decision to express the thought made it down my synapses towards my mouth.
 
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Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
:censored: him and :censored: his apology.

He literally started out by saying, "I may get into trouble for this" and kept going so he knew exactly how offensive it was. I found the toast part cringy but minor. The rating of attractiveness by how much white or as he said mullatto blood in black women to be attractive is racist and irresponsible AF. It's not about who he is attracted to, it's that he just felt comfortable saying on a public platform that white blood makes black women better. That is not an insult to black women's vanity it is a statement of our erasure.

Does the average white man feel that white blood makes women better? Yes, and he is supposed to. This is what every group of men is supposed to believe about the women who share his blood. What they ain't supposed to do is cross over outside they lane targeting women of other groups like this. It's a cheap shot with juicier bits of female dog made-ness. He earned his firing and deserves an :kick:.
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
:censored: him and :censored: his apology.

He literally started out by saying, "I may get into trouble for this" and kept going so he knew exactly how offensive it was. I found the toast part cringy but minor. The rating of attractiveness by how much white or as he said mullatto blood in black women to be attractive is racist and irresponsible AF. It's not about who he is attracted to, it's that he just felt comfortable saying on a public platform that white blood makes black women better. That is not an insult to black women's vanity it is a statement of our erasure.

Does the average white man feel that white blood makes women better? Yes, and he is supposed to. This is what every group of men is supposed to believe about the women who share his blood. What they ain't supposed to do is cross over outside they lane targeting women of other groups like this. It's a cheap shot with juicier bits of female dog made-ness. He earned his firing and deserves an :kick:.
I have not yet
listened to the clip
but I do agree that
by a certain age
you have to know
how to be tactful.
And rather than find
him offensive, I am
amused the way
you might be if
someone farted
then blamed you.

When I tell you
that I truly, deeply
find us beautiful and
so blessed with assets
that others lack that
I would not trade
any for the world,
it is the most
transparent I can be.
I really do feel a
pride and gratitude
when I allow myself
to bask in the fact
that I am black
It makes me stop
in my tracks taking
a moment to
praise the Creator.

Yet while I am
intrinsically aware
of how fortunate
my race is, not just
in appearance but
also in inner beauty
and resilience and a
drive that can move
mountains if allowed
to manifest, I would
never dare make
the less fortunate
feel bad by pointing
out to them
what I know they
unfortunately lack.

So it boggles
my mind that
someone so
comfortable in his
skin would feel the
need to blurt out
sentiments that seem
crafted to boost his
own ego while crashing
that of those he deems
less than him.
Rather, it is misery
that seeks company.

The fact that white
people seem to go
out of their way to
try to make black people
think that they, the latter,
are beneath them (former)
reeks of jealousy and
fear to me, not
self assured pride.

Think about it:
if you saw a cripple,
would you talk about
how more able you
are to get around
and do things more
easily than he,
let alone do it within
earshot of the guy?

Probably not.
Why? Duh, it would
be redundant.
Plus why be
insensitive and
mock his misfortune?
Your conscience and
common sense and
just sheer good manners
would tell you to keep
any such thoughts
to yourself.
At the least,
you would have
compassion and
sympathize with
his plight.

But white racist people
strike me as versions
of Trump in varying doses.

They say things to
convince themselves
and those on their team
that things aren't how
they really are and
they do it often to make
themselves believe a lie,
because the truth is
unbearable.

I mean, why else would
they keep messing
with us when we are
minding our own business?

And don't tell me how
even we make jokes
about them and diss them.
They started the yo mama
we are just playing our turn.

I think our glory highlights
and reminds them of
their inferiority and
deficiencies.

Deficient of full
facial features,
deficient of color,
deficient of body curves,
deficient in muscle density,
deficient in creativity and culture,
deficient in originality
deficient in artistry
...TBH I am convinced
we are smarter too
and they know it which
is why white men
have spent years
making sure they
thwart every effort
to afford us the same
resources and freedoms
lest we spread our
wings and soar leaving
them behind.

Sorry for getting
carried away but
this is the only place,
besides my home,
where I can be real
and celebrate us,
without fear of
hurting others.
Because unlike that
dude in the clip,
I have tact and
the heart to
know better than
to rub my beliefs
in the faces of
those not so lucky.

Furthermore,
I know our worth.
I do not need to yell
it on a platform
and put others down
to prove to myself
what is so bloody
obvious to me.
 

BonBon

Well-Known Member
I found the toast part cringy but minor.

I didn't, but as it was my "nickname" in school by both white and black boys I may be sensitive :look: Not sure about major, but offensive enough to be suspended on that alone. I'm not in the mood to switch on the radio and hear a white man brag about his coloursim, I could tell he was actively enjoying putting dark women down. Moving onto clarify his racism - they were right to sack him.

He aint sorry - as usual just worried about job prospects.
 
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Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I didn't, but as it was my "nickname" in school by both white and black boys I may be sensitive :look: Not sure about major, but offensive enough to be suspended on that alone. I'm not in the mood to switch on the radio and hear a white man brag about his coloursim, I could tell he was actively enjoying putting dark women down. Moving onto clarify his racism - they were right to sack him.

He aint sorry - as usual just worried about job prospects.
You are not being sensitive, your feelings are valid. I throw toast in with all the shades of chocolate, caramel, coffee and assorted food comparisons (Bonbon?) of the brown complexion. My reason for looking at this the way I do is not about the patriarchy but because lots of black women like the food comparisons that's why there's so many Chocolate/Cocoa/Mocha/Almond - Diva/Queen/Princess/Mama's floating around the internets. If someone is using the comparison to pay a compliment I find it cringy but harmless. What this :censored: did was not that and we both agree he should be fired.
 

futureapl

Well-Known Member
He probably felt comfortable saying that because rappers and people in the entertainment industry get away with it all of the time. Look at Chris Brown.
 

LivingInPeace

Well-Known Member
You are not being sensitive, your feelings are valid. I throw toast in with all the shades of chocolate, caramel, coffee and assorted food comparisons (Bonbon?) of the brown complexion. My reason for looking at this the way I do is not about the patriarchy but because lots of black women like the food comparisons that's why there's so many Chocolate/Cocoa/Mocha/Almond - Diva/Queen/Princess/Mama's floating around the internets. If someone is using the comparison to pay a compliment I find it cringy but harmless. What this :censored: did was not that and we both agree he should be fired.
What would you consider to be a non-cringy comparison?
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
What would you consider to be a non-cringy comparison?
How about
no comparison at
all to non-human
things?

I think I communicate
OK and yet I have
never had to use any
of the aforementioned
comparisons to describe
someone.

If someone's skintone
is an essential part
of my story, I will refer
to someone famous who
is that same complexion.

"Dark like Alek Wek,
light like Jasmine Guy..."
 

LivingInPeace

Well-Known Member
How about
no comparison at
all to non-human
things?

I think I communicate
OK and yet I have
never had to use any
of the aforementioned
comparisons to describe
someone.

If someone's skintone
is an essential part
of my story, I will refer
to someone famous who
is that same complexion.

"Dark like Alek Wek,
light like Jasmine Guy..."
I see. But what about when someone says a Black woman has "skin like silk" or it's "buttery soft" is that offensive?
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
I see. But what about when someone says a Black woman has "skin like silk" or it's "buttery soft" is that offensive?

BTW I don't
find any of the
comparisons offensive.
Just unnecessary.

I don't waste
time evaluating
how milky white
or raw meat white
or see-through-clear-
that-veins-show white
ypippo are.

Now if you are
a clown and wear
orange makeup
and are obnoxious
and heartless,
I don't even have
to make an effort.
The clown mask
helps to distract
from everything else
I cannot stand about you.
(Disclaimer: any similarities
of that description to a
former guy you know is
not accidental)

With regard to
your question,
I don't think
being descriptive like
the examples you give
is offensive.
As @Crackers Phinn said,
compliments get a pass.

Perhaps I am not
the right person to
jump on this topic
because I am not
sensitive about stuff
that others might be.
I didn't grow up
in an environment
where shades of my
people were used to
discriminate or promote
some at the expense
of others for years.
But I have enough
sense to understand
why others do take
offense and rightly so.

Like if someone
called me a monkey,
I would not be mad.
I would just find it silly
because I am not one
and don't look like one.

Other than giving
them one of these


...I may smirk

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to show them how
ridiculous I think
the remark is
They might as well
have called me
me a cloud
or a fat boy
or an eagle.
I am none of the
above so one
has to be a bit
of a nutter to
assume I am
and then spew it.

I can bet my
bottom dollar that
someone in a mental
institution makes
similar declarations
so bless their heart.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
What would you consider to be a non-cringy comparison?
I was told that I looked sun kissed like the sands of the Nairobi desert. No cringe.

I see. But what about when someone says a Black woman has "skin like silk" or it's "buttery soft" is that offensive?
I don't think either of these comments are offensive.
 

LivingInPeace

Well-Known Member
Nah, but those comments aren't meant to cause derision. He knew that by pitting women against each other via skin tone would cause some problems.
I wasn't really thinking about the radio show host's comments. I was thinking about the comparisons to chocolate, caramel etc.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I wasn't really thinking about the radio show host's comments. I was thinking about the comparisons to chocolate, caramel etc.
A lot of my cringe with the chocolate and assorted brown food references is partially how played out and unoriginal it is. Truthfully most men don’t have the gravitas to pull of those kinds of pick up lines without sounding goofy or pervy.
 
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