Really!

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
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Why would he say this? This is so insulting to Believers who take the worship of God seriously. Many Christians go to MegaFest with pure hearts and Bryant dares to compare a Beyonce' concert to such?

:nono::nono::nono:
 
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BEAUTYU2U

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http://exministries.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jamal1.jpg

http://exministries.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jamal-bryant-zane.jpgIn 2010 Bryant invited Zhane, the queen of urban erotica and print porn to preach lecture the church. According to a 2008 official transcipt:
“When a Black Man captures the heart of a lover, he longs for pleasure not pressure. He was never conditioned for chaos, conflict or confrontation. Dr. Bryant delivers effective relationship advice with wit on how to pamper, feed, and love your man. Discover how you can condition your man and freely check him; assist him without him feeling disrespected and demeaned.” WHAT!?

Bryant once publicly defended Erykah Badu nude “window seat” video and paid her $500 indecent exposure fine.
more at:
The De·fi·ant One » EXTV

Who is he? And what? He's simply an opportunist. How to love a black man - biblically? Give me a break.
 

songbird8

Active Member
I just have to say that it is never okay for a Pastor to attend a Beyonce concert. Just no! I'm not even gonna touch the Zane situation. Just absolutely ridiculous.
 

LucieLoo12

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This is sad, and these days this behavior is expected and tolerated. I seen one youtube video when the pastor was doing the "dougie" in the church.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KinxLCiDsyU.:nono:


And this will continue to happen because people don't stand for righteousness no more. They want they pastor to be "cool", not holy. The moment my church starts playing worldy music in the pulpit, the moment I get up and walk out because the holy ghost can't dwell where there is blantant sin and trangression.

Alot of these churches dont have the anointing in them, but they have loud music, and fasts drum beats and that makes them feel like the house is anoinited. But the real anoninting will have people turning from sin and seeking the face of God, not going to Beyonce concerts.

When will people wake up? The bible says Satan's messenger can be transformed into a angel of light. But these hyprocriting preachers not even hiding their wickedness but they are blantanly showing in the faces of their congregation. And their congregation drinks it up like water because they don't desire righteousness. But they want the world and God, but you can't have two masters, you will cleave to one and hate the other. And by the looks of things, we know who the master of that house is, and it's not God.
 

Nice Lady

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I thought he got a member of his church pregnant ... I may be wrong though.

A rumor in which the magazine had to offer a retraction. I am not commenting and holding to my word. I know you will write an essay after this and others, but I felt the need to let you know you are spreading a dead rumor.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
A rumor in which the magazine had to offer a retraction. I am not commenting and holding to my word. I know you will write an essay after this and others, but I felt the need to let you know you are spreading a dead rumor.

Really?

There was no retraction. :nono: They simply apologized.

Bryant was attempting to disprove that:

1. The girl was not 17 years of age
2. That she was not a member of his Church

AND

There are court records which prove otherwise against Bryant.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.u...il.jis?caseId=03C00007941&loc=55&detailLoc=CC

This man is NOT innocent and he needs to be put on full blast to protect others from being mislead.

What really gets me is that folks are so quick to defend those who are wrong and get mad at those who expose it. Please! That's the problem with society today. Wrong is right and right is wrong... No one wants to held accountable and does not want to be convicted of wrong doing.

Circuit Court of Maryland
Case Information

Court System: Circuit Court for Baltimore County - Civil System
Case Number: 03C00007941
Title: Wedderburn vs Bryant
Case Type: Civil PaternityFiling Date:08/04/2000
Case Status: Closed/Inactive
Case Disposition: Decree or OrderDisposition Date:07/01/2008
Plaintiff/Petitioner Information
 

Nice Lady

Well-Known Member
Really?

There was no retraction. :nono: They simply apologized.

Bryant was attempting to disprove that:

1. The girl was not 17 years of age
2. That she was not a member of his Church

AND

There are court records which prove otherwise against Bryant.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.u...il.jis?caseId=03C00007941&loc=55&detailLoc=CC

This man is NOT innocent and he needs to be put on full blast to protect others from being mislead.

What really gets me is that folks are so quick to defend those who are wrong and get mad at those who expose it. Please! That's the problem with society today. Wrong is right and right is wrong... No one wants to held accountable and does not want to be convicted of wrong doing.

Circuit Court of Maryland
Case Information

Court System: Circuit Court for Baltimore County - Civil System
Case Number: 03C00007941
Title: Wedderburn vs Bryant
Case Type: Civil PaternityFiling Date:08/04/2000
Case Status: Closed/Inactive
Case Disposition: Decree or OrderDisposition Date:07/01/2008
Plaintiff/Petitioner Information

If they CLOSED THE CASE, THEN there was a high chance of no paternity established. He had a bunch of cases filed by women that it was found not to be true by the courts. There are murderers, hackers, illegal wiretappers, and stalkers who should be walking around with a RECORD, but don't have one. I don't want it to turn into fighting.

So, wrong is wrong and right is right. If wanna talk the law, you have to know what you are talking about. Filing a case never points to guilt or innocence

Prior to law school, I was an intern during my college summers years at the Family Court and did some assistance to a family lawyer in law school.

BESIDES THE point, carry on! I have to get stuff done, but have a blessed week.
 

Iwanthealthyhair67

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These are the pastors that we need to be aware of; the wolves in sheep clothing, the snake oil salesmen casting a shadow of doubt on the real sold out men and women of God...

Just recently a pastor was relieved of his duties for going to a Rick Ross concert, he was warned weeks before after attending a Lil Wayne concert so the elders let him go...Then you have Pastor Sapp going to see a Kevin Hart (comedian/actor known for language)concert to 'unwind after studying for his sermon' and asked people not to judge him and these other fools coming out with their reality show.

Has the Christian people gone crazy, we cannot continue to act like ostriches with our heads buried in the sand. We have saints going to the world to ‘fix their lives’ A pastors wife seeking out a Yoruba Priestess for help her to save her marriage, while her philandering husband is still in the pulpit preaching ery Sunday, should someone need to drag his old horny behind to the altar to repent? I think not. Then we got famous singing sisters going to this same woman to be told that they have bitterness and un-forgiveness in their hearts, these same sisters grew up in church, whose daddy and brother were pastors and at least one of them is a pastors wife, why Iyanla have to tell them they have un-forgiveness, nobody in their church could discern that, what happen to Holy Spirit who is supposed to be operating in us and guiding us into all truth…

These actions should not be normal or acceptable to us.
 

Nice & Wavy

Well-Known Member
These are the pastors that we need to be aware of; the wolves in sheep clothing, the snake oil salesmen
casting a shadow of doubt on the real sold out men and women of God...

Just recently a pastor was relieved of his duties for going to a Rick Ross concert, he was warned weeks before after attending a Lil Wayne concert so the elders let him go...Then you have Pastor Sapp going to see a Kevin Hart (comedian/actor known for language)concert to 'unwind after studying for his sermon' and asked people not to judge him and these other fools coming out with their reality show.

Has the Christian people gone crazy, we cannot continue to act like ostriches with our heads buried in the sand. We have saints going to the world to ‘fix their lives’ A pastors wife seeking out a Yoruba Priestess for help her to save her marriage, while her philandering husband is still in the pulpit preaching ery Sunday, should someone need to drag his old horny behind to the altar to repent? I think not. Then we got famous singing sisters going to this same woman to be told that they have bitterness and un-forgiveness in their hearts, these same sisters grew up in church, whose daddy and brother were pastors and at least one of them is a pastors wife, why Iyanla have to tell them they have un-forgiveness, nobody in their church could discern that, what happen to Holy Spirit who is supposed to be operating in us and guiding us into all truth…

These actions should not be normal or acceptable to us.
The bible says:

"For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Timothy 3:6-7

Anyone agreeing with this garbage gets a huge side-eye:rolleyes: from me. It says a lot when folks agree with sin and fight you over it too....:nono:

New Christians: watch what you read...just because they say "Lord, Lord" doesn't mean a thing. Jesus said you will know a person by their fruit.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member

If they CLOSED THE CASE, THEN there was a high chance of no paternity established. He had a bunch of cases filed by women that it was found not to be true by the courts. There are murderers, hackers, illegal wiretappers, and stalkers who should be walking around with a RECORD, but don't have one. I don't want it to turn into fighting.

So, wrong is wrong and right is right. If wanna talk the law, you have to know what you are talking about. Filing a case never points to guilt or innocence

Prior to law school, I was an intern during my college summers years at the Family Court and did some assistance to a family lawyer in law school.

BESIDES THE point, carry on! I have to get stuff done, but have a blessed week.

You kinda scare me, because if you can't see the dust on this man's face, than any man can fool you.

Let's be real: If this man approached you for a date or 'whatever'... and seeing all of these lawsuits on his record, would you be the kind of woman who closes her eyes and says, "Dey' lyin' bout' choo' boo'. I have faith in you, cause I ain't judgin' you like dem other folkeseszzzz'

I'm just saying. If you want to be his 'johnny cocrhan legal team, fine.

The man is guilty... plain and simple. The only one lying is him.
 

menina

Believing the book of Revelations
Well i think people don't believe in the benefits of holiness, or that it's extra instead of a natural process. Also that if they just have faith they will receive salvation in the end through Christ, what's the point of doing more than the bare minimum of not sinning? And then folks just not wanting to change... :/
 
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Shimmie

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If they CLOSED THE CASE, THEN there was a high chance of no paternity established. He had a bunch of cases filed by women that it was found not to be true by the courts. There are murderers, hackers, illegal wiretappers, and stalkers who should be walking around with a RECORD, but don't have one. I don't want it to turn into fighting.

So, wrong is wrong and right is right. If wanna talk the law, you have to know what you are talking about. Filing a case never points to guilt or innocence

Prior to law school, I was an intern during my college summers years at the Family Court and did some assistance to a family lawyer in law school.

BESIDES THE point, carry on! I have to get stuff done, but have a blessed week.

The DNA tests proved positive that jamal bryant is indeed the father. And it wasn't Maury Povich who did the test. :nono:

Bryant finally admitted that he was the Father and the $400 per month child support was contested by the mother, who filed for an increase.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
Well i think people don't believe in the benefits of holiness.

Also that if they just have faith they will receive salvation in the end through Christ, what's the point of doing more than the bare minimum of not sinning? And then folks just not wanting to change... :/

:yep::yep::yep::yep::yep:
 

MrsHaseeb

Well-Known Member
A rumor in which the magazine had to offer a retraction. I am not commenting and holding to my word. I know you will write an essay after this and others, but I felt the need to let you know you are spreading a dead rumor.

You need to question your need to defend false prophets. Do you have any idea how serious it is to God for him to have this position and be living in sin, causing babes in Christ to stumble and begin to mimic his behavior. Its better that a millstone be hung on his neck and I'm cast into the sea. You are deceived. I have nothing more to say.
 

MrsHaseeb

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1 Corinthians 8:10-12 KJV
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; [11] And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? [12] But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.


This verse is talking about meat specifically but shows how serious all matters that cause others to stumble. Its not a small deal to God and we need to reprove things like this.
 

miss cosmic

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Let me just say this, the only person who does want to confront sin in the "Church" is the one who is making excuses for their own. Paul confronted Peter to his face when he had people acting racist and guess what, Peter later affirmed Paul in his own epistle by calling him brother. Peter had to repent. Its a lie to believe that we don't hold people accountable for their behavior because we should. Beyonce gets on stage almost naked, throwing her crotch all over the place, turning young girls into whores and making young boys effeminate and full of lust and this "Pastor" takes his daughter AND sits there and watches himself?! That indicates he has perverted, defiled spirits in him and doesn't need to Pastor anybody. Do you know how seriously God takes it when we 1) cause the world to blaspheme the name of Christ and 2) cause the faith of weak saints to fail and they start doing this stuff? This is no small deal so stop trying to disempower people to speak up against such foolishness by accusing them of having sin in them.

My, how powerful beyonce is.

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JaneBond007

New Member
Why do you have "to get stuff done and have a blessed week" when people ask you to substantiate your claims? Who is hiding stuff? I've tried for months to figure out what is going on with your posts and I thought I had it straight with an informational post on your blog. But then you bring veiled charges of misbehavior back to the CRT. I don't get it. Why are you posting when you'd rather be doing other things? Passive-aggressive behavior? I'd say it is a step beyond, though.

As for Bryant, I read where he settled this and agreed that he had fathered a child oow. Why did his wife divorce him? Because he had been cheating. It doesn't take a court to decide that for a wife. She felt it, he acknowledged it and she moved on. As to whether it was illegal due to her age, that's another story. The first crime is against the wife.

As far as the alleged talking against people's children, I don't know what that is about. It would seem cruel and unfair to downtalk another's family. If people have sinned in some way and if they have amended their lives, then let them walk their road with Christ. Who is perfect? Every man will have his day in the court of Elohim. May our Father write our names and seal us in His Book of Life.

RE: Beyonce', I listen to contemporary music and I don't apologize for doing so. It's not a sin for me. If it's one for another, then don't do it. Never have I attended any of her concerts. I don't know about demons and such. I've heard she thrusts her crotch and then gets mad people grab her booty. Oh well. Not in agreement with that. I see no reason a pastor cannot attend a concert, depending upon the content. I'm not automatically against it. So Bryant is not "guilty" of that, imho. But he did mention something about a porn person in the THAT industry delivering a sermon to his congregation. We don't need the porn industry training husbands and wives on how to get holy freaky in the bedroom. It can come naturally if they take the time. Porn is all about objectifying a person and is anti-human dignity.

For short: be more fair in your posting. If anything is laughable, it's your prosecutory rants and raves on here to a ghost defender. And many of these women are currently licensed and practicing attorneys. I don't get why you seem to think you're the only one who has ever gotten a law degree and did an internship. Shrugs.
 
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miss cosmic

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Beyonce is not powerful, the demons in her are.

Thank you. Because for a minute there it sounded like you meant beyonce HERSELF was turning girls into prostitutes and boys into homosexuals.

On another note: where is the love? All i see is people speaking doom and destruction (not to mention hellfire) into bryant's daughter's life - must have missed the posts where people recognize that the God of the bible can save ANYONE from ANYTHING. Were those prophetic words of knowledge? Wishes? Speaking things that are not as though they are?
I dont know this pastor nor do i know anything about him beyond what i have read in this thread, but i find it strange and not a little off-putting that christians are not expressing more love for his daughter (clearly HIS fate is already decided :look: ) but are instead wishing her a horrible end. Telling, methinks.

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MrsHaseeb

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Thank you. Because for a minute there it sounded like you meant beyonce HERSELF was turning girls into prostitutes and boys into homosexuals.

On another note: where is the love? All i see is people speaking doom and destruction (not to mention hellfire) into bryant's daughter's life - must have missed the posts where people recognize that the God of the bible can save ANYONE from ANYTHING. Were those prophetic words of knowledge? Wishes? Speaking things that are not as though they are?
I dont know this pastor nor do i know anything about him beyond what i have read in this thread, but i find it strange and not a little off-putting that christians are not expressing more love for his daughter (clearly HIS fate is already decided :look: ) but are instead wishing her a horrible end. Telling, methinks.

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Hi. I don't think anyone is wishing her a horrible end because God certaunly can save anybody unless they are reprobate. I think it's important to acknowledge how this will affect his daughter unless SHE repents. Nobody here wants to see her perish but we can't make it cute and nice and sweet and ignore what this is doing to her.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
Thank you. Because for a minute there it sounded like you meant beyonce HERSELF was turning girls into prostitutes and boys into homosexuals.

On another note: where is the love? All i see is people speaking doom and destruction (not to mention hellfire) into bryant's daughter's life - must have missed the posts where people recognize that the God of the bible can save ANYONE from ANYTHING. Were those prophetic words of knowledge? Wishes? Speaking things that are not as though they are?
I dont know this pastor nor do i know anything about him beyond what i have read in this thread, but i find it strange and not a little off-putting that christians are not expressing more love for his daughter (clearly HIS fate is already decided :look: ) but are instead wishing her a horrible end. Telling, methinks.

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I think there's a misunderstanding. As I share this, it's not in contention towards you or your post. I just want to insert clarity. Okay?

No one is 'daming' his daughter to doom and destruction. What's being shared is what Bryant is teaching his daughter, that being in this type of atmosphere is 'okay' when it is not. It's the actions of her father which are endangering her soul; it is what he is teaching her.

We all know that God is able, however we also know the consequences of what teens are exposed to spiritually. And it is 'THIS' that is being shared here, the consequences of what her father is exposing her to and condoning it with spiritual validation.

Pediatricians share the consequences of what will occur when parents give their children certain foods. They are not 'damning' their children to bad health, they are simply telling the parents what to expect unless the diet changes.

The same applies here, Unless jamal bryant changes the atmosphere, exposure and the validation of demons in his daughters life, the consequences will be a life of demonic activity in her spirit that her father opened the threshold to. He is literally giving his daughter over to Baal.

Everybody knows that Beyonce' is a demon lead vessel, giving the illuminati signs in all of her performances. She is a demonic influence making satan's activities a glamours desire for women and young girls to pattern themselves after.

Here's something more that is critical. This is a young girl who is separated from her father; he does not live with her. All young girls idolize their fathers; women were designed to give their hearts to men. (I have scripture and life's evidence to back this up). Because he is not with her, she still has that desire to be loved and a girl and women in general feel most loved when a man is WITH them in presence, not distance.

There is a void in every young girl, who longs to have her Daddy's attention. And when Daddy is not there, she will seek to fill that void however she can with another man. This is when many girls use 'sex' to get and keep a man in her life. beyonce' is giving girls the negative and destructive meaning of sex. jamal bryant is giving his daughter the 'message' (the impression) that 'sex' is the only way to have a man that she loves to be in her life.

So again, no one here is damning this girl to hell. We were telling the truth about the consequences of what her father is doing and how he is 'training' her spirit to be mislead through the wrong path.
 
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Nice & Wavy

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Thank you. Because for a minute there it sounded like you meant beyonce HERSELF was turning girls into prostitutes and boys into homosexuals.

On another note: where is the love? All i see is people speaking doom and destruction (not to mention hellfire) into bryant's daughter's life - must have missed the posts where people recognize that the God of the bible can save ANYONE from ANYTHING. Were those prophetic words of knowledge? Wishes? Speaking things that are not as though they are?
I dont know this pastor nor do i know anything about him beyond what i have read in this thread, but i find it strange and not a little off-putting that christians are not expressing more love for his daughter (clearly HIS fate is already decided :look: ) but are instead wishing her a horrible end. Telling, methinks.

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Is that all you read? Surely there was more spoken that maybe you might have missed in translation...:yep:

(Shimmie)
What Father would lead his daughter or son in the paths of destruction? This is not right. Any Father who loves his daughter would not have her at a booty shakin Beyonce concert. What a waste of money, and even more a waste one's soul. What happens when your daughter is mislead into sexual sin?

(MrsHaseeb)
He is sacrificing his child to the devil to satisfy his own sexual perversion. He used his daughter to cover his lust. He was the one who wanted to go see Beyonce. Unless his daughter repents and seeks the Lord for herself she will begin to be a whorish girl, using her body to seduce men to because that's what her father likes and what she sees him looking at. She is subconsciously learning to imitate Beyonce's behavior to get the attention of men.

To my knowledge from reading these posts, they didn't speak anything bad into the life of his daughter, they were saying "What If?" and "If he continues....this can/will happen." As someone who is in the ministry...this can happen if he continues on this path with his daughter.:yep:
 

Nice & Wavy

Well-Known Member
I think there's a misunderstanding. As I share this, it's not in contention towards you or your post. I just want to insert clarity. Okay?

No one is 'daming' his daughter to doom and destruction. What's being shared is what Bryant is teaching his daughter, that being in this type of atmosphere is 'okay' when it is not. It's the actions of her father which are endangering her soul; it is what he is teaching her.

We all know that God is able, however we also know the consequences of what teens are exposed to spiritually. And it is 'THIS' that is being shared here, the consequences of what her father is exposing her to and condoning it with spiritual validation.

Pediatricians share the consequences of what will occur when parents give their children certain foods. They are not 'damning' their children to bad health, they are simply telling the parents what to expect unless the diet changes.

The same applies here, Unless jamal bryant changes the atmosphere, exposure and the validation of demons in his daughters life, the consequences will be a life of demonic activity in her spirit that her father opened the threshold to. He is literally giving his daughter over to Baal. Everybody knows that Beyonce' is a demon lead vessel, giving the illuminati signs in all of her performances. She is a demonic influence making satan's activities a glamours desire for women and young girls to pattern themselves after.

Here's something more that is critical. This is a young girl who is separated from her father; he does not live with her. All young girls idolize their fathers; women were designed to give their hearts to men. (I have scripture and life's evidence to back this up). Because he is not with her, she still has that desire to loved and a girl and women in general feel most loved when a man is WITH them in presence, not distance.

There is a void in every young girl, who longs to have her Daddy's attention. And when Daddy is not there, she will seek to fill that void however she can with another man. This is when many girls use 'sex' to get and keep a man in her life. beyonce' is giving girls the negative and destructive meaning of sex. jamal bryant is giving his daughter that 'sex' is the only way to have a man that she loves to be in her life.

So again, no one here is damning this girl to hell. We were telling the truth about the consequences of her father is doing and how he is 'training' her spirit to be mislead through the wrong path.
We are on the same page...as per my post below yours...:yep:
 

miss cosmic

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Is that all you read? Surely there was more spoken that maybe you might have missed in translation...:yep:

(Shimmie)


(MrsHaseeb)


To my knowledge from reading these posts, they didn't speak anything bad into the life of his daughter, they were saying "What If?" and "If he continues....this can/will happen." As someone who is in the ministry...this can happen if he continues on this path with his daughter.:yep:

Thank you. I'm not sure if the undertones of condescension are intentional or not and I won't address that.
 

Nice & Wavy

Well-Known Member
Thank you. I'm not sure if the undertones of condescension are intentional or not and I won't address that.
If you know me, I really try not to use undertones of anything in my posts. I really try to be as open and honest as I possibly can.

I can assure you, I did not and was not sarcastic or facetious in my post to you....:yep:

HTH
 
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