Supreme Court to Decide on Same Sex Marriage

Belle Du Jour

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The SCOTUS will be deciding on two cases (Prop 8 and DOMA) that will determine whether same-sex marriage can be imposed everywhere in America.

Obama has come out in full support of striking down DOMA :rolleyes: :nono:

This could be a major turning point in the U.S. Remember, when Roe v Wade legalized abortion, we ended up with 55 million aborted children in this country. :nono:

Christians, this is the time to PRAY. Pray like you have never prayed before. Let's stop burying our heads in the sand and saying, "well, it doesn't affect me or my family" or "it's not affecting my salvation." or "well that's on them if they want to do that." It affects us all. Let me tell you where I see this going: if SCOTUS says SSM is a right and a gay couple says, I have the right to get married and we want to get married at X church that doesn't support SSM, if the church says no, that church could probably get sued and lose.

There is a March for Marriage on March 26: http://www.marriagemarch.org/
 

Krullete

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if a gay couple says, I have the right to get married and we want to get married at X church that doesn't support SSM, if the church says no, that church could probably get sued and lose.



FALSE.

That scenario is no more likely (nor reasonable) than a divorced Catholic suing the Church, for refusing to officiate a new marriage, or a Lutheran suing because of a Rabbi's refusal to permit his marriage ceremony in the synagogue.


 

Belle Du Jour

Well-Known Member
FALSE.

That scenario is no more likely (nor reasonable) than a divorced Catholic suing the Church, for refusing to officiate a new marriage, or a Lutheran suing because of a Rabbi's refusal to permit his marriage ceremony in the synagogue.



Thank you for your opinion. As I stated, that is my concern and I think it's a valid one. But thank you :yep:
 

momi

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Thanks for this. We will see gay marriage legalized in the USA - I have no doubt about that.

I've sent my share of letters and voiced my opinion on the matter to friends and family who seem to be blind to the significance of this issue.

We may be looking towards Twilights Last Gleaming...
 

FrazzledFraggle

New Member
This precedent which the SCOTUS is about to set is apart of the larger picture of the wickedness and deceit that is taking place all around the world. We all must continue to pray, seek God, and live according to the Word. It is so important that we guard our hearts and minds against corruption so that we are not deceived by sly wording such as "alternative lifestyle" or a "biological sexual predisposition" which seeks to diminish what God has called an abomination. While we can and must stand up against unrighteousness, I believe that gay marriages will be legalized at some point.


Romans 1

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[c] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[d] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

I believe that we are a very short time from having gay marriage legalized. However, we should not be discouraged:

The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age

3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all[a] these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.


Anyone who cannot see that prophecy is being fulfilled right now has blinders on. The spirit of the anti-Christ is definitely gaining influence in this world and people are being deceived by lobbyists and slick talking politicians. But, even they need prayer! Our SCOTUS needs prayer.

Let's prayer for our nation but also for our justices individually and collectively.

Sonia Sotomayor, Stephen G. Breyer, Samuel A. Alito, and Elena Kagan, Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Anthony Kennedy, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
 
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FrazzledFraggle

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Thank you for your opinion. As I stated, that is my concern and I think it's a valid one. But thank you :yep:

I think your point is a valid one. Our rights and the rights of the church are gradually being eroded away. Many churches have already been sent threatening letters (to revoke their not for profit status) for speaking about politics from the pulpit. While IMO Pastors should not be instructing the congregation to pick a particularly politician, I think every Pastor has an obligation to make sure their congregation understands what is coming and that means that at some point you have to talk about the government's roll in the end times.

Last year a Christian photographer was sued for declining to take photographs of a gay couple for their wedding.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/refuse-to-photograph-lesbians-get-fined-7000/

The Court said: The judges continued, “The act of photographing a same-sex ceremony does not express any opinions regarding same-sex commitments, or disseminate a personal message about such ceremonies.”

Unbelievable right? :nono:

Yes, your point is absolutely valid. The judges wrote that the photography company’s claim of protection under the state constitution’s requirement that “no person shall ever be molested or denied any civil or political right or privilege on account of his religious opinion” was not applicable.

Rights will continue to be taken away and the freedoms that Western Churches have today will not always exist. :nono:
 

momi

Well-Known Member
Our church has already amended our by-laws to reflect our position on marriage to prayerfully avoid lawsuits.

I believe the way they will target churches is to threaten their 501c3 status.
 

Belle Du Jour

Well-Known Member
Thank you all for your thoughtful comments. I'm starting to understand more about the protection and erosion of religious freedom that is occurring and will occur. Have you noticed that having a traditional or religious ideology is considered bigotry now?

I too fear this is coming but I'm not ready to quit yet. :nono: Remember in Sodom and Gomorrah, God said he would not destroy the city if Abraham could find 10 righteous people. We know that they found none :look: but we don't have to go down that road.

I agree with letskeepntouch about lifting up the SC Justices in prayer. :yep:
 

Kinky4Agirl

Well-Known Member
The SCOTUS will be deciding on two cases (Prop 8 and DOMA) that will determine whether same-sex marriage can be imposed everywhere in America.

Obama has come out in full support of striking down DOMA :rolleyes: :nono:

This could be a major turning point in the U.S. Remember, when Roe v Wade legalized abortion, we ended up with 55 million aborted children in this country. :nono:

Christians, this is the time to PRAY. Pray like you have never prayed before. Let's stop burying our heads in the sand and saying, "well, it doesn't affect me or my family" or "it's not affecting my salvation." or "well that's on them if they want to do that." It affects us all. Let me tell you where I see this going: if SCOTUS says SSM is a right and a gay couple says, I have the right to get married and we want to get married at X church that doesn't support SSM, if the church says no, that church could probably get sued and lose.

There is a March for Marriage on March 26: http://www.marriagemarch.org/

Wait... I thought there was a law against joining church and state?? How could they sue???
 
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ClassicBeauty

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FALSE.

That scenario is no more likely (nor reasonable) than a divorced Catholic suing the Church, for refusing to officiate a new marriage, or a Lutheran suing because of a Rabbi's refusal to permit his marriage ceremony in the synagogue.



I try to tell people the same thing. If the Catholic church can refuse to marry or acknowledge a marriage because of divorce, I'm sure they're not worried about being forced to marry gays.

I don't have a problem with church folks standing against gay marriage. I just hate this particular argument.
 
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Kinky4Agirl

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I try to tell people the same thing. If the Catholic church can refuse to marry or acknowledge a marriage because of divorce, I'm sure they're not worried about being forced to marry gays.

I don't have a problem with church folks standing against gay marriage. I just hate this particular argument.

I was wondering why you don't like this particular argument when according to the Bible it's an abomination. Aren't we supposed to stand for God and what he believes in? Just wondering. Not judging.
 

ClassicBeauty

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I was wondering why you don't like this particular argument when according to the Bible it's an abomination. Aren't we supposed to stand for God and what he believes in? Just wondering. Not judging.

I hate to hear church folks say that the church might be forced to marry gay couples because its not based on facts or law. Argue the biblical reasons, argue for the traditional family values, argue anything you want to, but don't create fear about the state forcing the church to do anything against the Bible.

Women were created equal under the law a long time ago, but I have yet to see the govt. force the church to have a female priest or pastor. That's not how the US govt. works.
 

momi

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I hate to hear church folks say that the church might be forced to marry gay couples because its not based on facts or law. Argue the biblical reasons, argue for the traditional family values, argue anything you want to, but don't create fear about the state forcing the church to do anything against the Bible.

Women were created equal under the law a long time ago, but I have yet to see the govt. force the church to have a female priest or pastor. That's not how the US govt. works.

You obviously have too much faith in the US government. As I stated earlier I believe they would try and use the church's tax exempt status as some type of threat. Some churches are in the place where they accept federal/state funds for benevolence. My former church received government funds to provide food for the needy and also toys during Christmas season. Their guidelines prevent churches from sharing the gospel with the recipients... it had to be a neutral ground. I thought it was pointless to provide physical food but be prevented from providing spiritual food. So no, they are not above placing restrictions on churches.



This is the article we have received that encouraged us to amend the language in our by-laws.

http://baptistpress.com/BPnews.asp?ID=39695
 

Krullete

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^Naturally, if churches solicit and accept the monies and benefits of the citizenry (as represented by the U.S. government), then they are beholden to respect the body of the citizenry as a whole.

If this is unacceptable or distasteful to them, the churches simply have to get out of bed with the government, and find sufficiency in the funds and donations contributed by their own adherents. Independence maintained!

How is this difficult?
 

momi

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^Naturally, if churches solicit and accept the monies and benefits of the citizenry (as represented by the U.S. government), then they are beholden to respect the body of the citizenry as a whole.

If this is unacceptable or distasteful to them, the churches simply have to get out of bed with the government, and find sufficiency in the funds and donations contributed by their own adherents. Independence maintained!

How is this difficult?

I wouldn't say churches solicit funds but yes many do accept funds with the goal of providing services to those in their communities. However, hindsight is 20/20 - I'm sure most of them did not see this coming down the pipeline, but only saw the opportunity for benevolence.

Our church is relatively new, so we knew enough to decline pressure to take the 501c3 status... I thank God for His wisdom where this was concerned.

I am not sure of the outcome, but the Catholic church was or is currently involved in litigation regarding servicing children in foster care and providing adoption services. They were being forced in certain states to open adoptions to same-sex couples and feared they would have to get out of the business altogether... in cases like this only the children lose.
 

momi

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Also, the church separation of church and state has been completely taken out of context.

It is not even written in the Constitution, but was taken from a letter written by an early President. The purpose was to prevent the establishment of a national religion...

Clearly, Biblical principals and acknowledgment of a Holy God are ingrained in America's History...

Gentlemen, – The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association give me the highest satisfaction. . . . Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurances of my high respect and esteem.

I don't believe their intention was to remove God from all aspects concerning the state at all... they seemed to have a better grasp on the truth that we seem to have forgotten:

Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people. Proverbs 14:34
 

ClassicBeauty

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Actually the separation of church and state comes from The Establishment Clause which states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." It's a part of the 1st Amendment. We have the freedom to exercise our own religion, and the gov cannot establish a religion for this country.

Now if your church wants federal funds, they have to play by secular rules. That's totally different from being forced to perform a religious ceremony for gay couples.
 
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Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
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Lady Belle, I'll be back with encouragement. :yep:

I'm just getting over the flu and a strep throat; I just came in to let you know that I am praying as well.

However, please be encouraged. No matter what happens, it's not a win for gay rights. Sin is never a win for anyone. It's a lost of life eternal. We already know whose at the 'head' of this. However, God is still in full control.

Please be encouraged.

I'll be back later in the week.

Love,
Shimmie :love3:
 

beingofserenity

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The thing is, religious views are irrelevant politically. That is the price we pay in order to live in a society that is filled with many different people from many different backgrounds. As for that photographer..if you are selling a service and refuse to provide it to someone because you don't agree with their lifestyle that is discrimination. If you don't provide a service to someone because they're black, discrimination. If it's because they're gay, discrimination. Now if you're invited to a wedding of two lesbians and you refuse to go because you don't agree with that lifestyle, that is your prerogative.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
^Naturally, if churches solicit and accept the monies and benefits of the citizenry (as represented by the U.S. government), then they are beholden to respect the body of the citizenry as a whole.

If this is unacceptable or distasteful to them, the churches simply have to get out of bed with the government, and find sufficiency in the funds and donations contributed by their own adherents. Independence maintained!

How is this difficult?

No they're not... :nono:

The Church is beholdedn to God, period. No government can dictate that.

Something else, the government doesn't waste time soliciting votes from the Church. The government is in the Church big time, 'conning' for votes from the Church members and their Pastors to convince members to vote for them.

It's always been this way.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
The thing is, religious views are irrelevant politically. That is the price we pay in order to live in a society that is filled with many different people from many different backgrounds. As for that photographer..if you are selling a service and refuse to provide it to someone because you don't agree with their lifestyle that is discrimination. If you don't provide a service to someone because they're black, discrimination. If it's because they're gay, discrimination. Now if you're invited to a wedding of two lesbians and you refuse to go because you don't agree with that lifestyle, that is your prerogative.

Really? Not when they want our votes and money to support their campaigns and legislation.
 

momi

Well-Known Member
No they're not... :nono:

The Church is beholdedn to God, period. No government can dictate that.

Something else, the government doesn't waste time soliciting votes from the Church. The government is in the Church big time, 'conning' for votes from the Church members and their Pastors to convince members to vote for them.

It's always been this way.

Great point Shimmie... Not to mention praying for The Lord's favor after a national tragedy.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
Lady Belle...

I promised to come back and comment.

Sometimes when people won't listen to the 'voice' (The Word) of God, He allows them to 'have their way' (so to speak) only to allow the consequences to capture their attention.

No matter what the Supreme Court 'decides' (allows themselves to be pressured into), the consequences will prevail upon them and those following in that same path.

How many times in the Bible did God 'turn people over to a reprobate mind', only for them to reap the consequences.

Bottomline: There is no win for this rise in sin.

Here's what I see occurring:

If it is passed for gay marriage, it will soon be repealed.

How can I say this?

Quite easy. :yep:

It's inevitable, because it is unnatural. It's self destruction of one's body and soul. It has no life nor protection that God will give it over that of the Marriage between a man and a woman.

No matter what the Supreme Court, Obama and the gay agenda strives for, it will never be any validity to persons of the same sex as being married. It simply does not have the Breath of Life that only God can give. It will never be honorable, nor will it give dignity or value to humanity, society or to those who partake of it. They are not married, no matter what man made laws attempt to change. They are not married nor will they ever be.

As for the Church... The gates of hell cannot prevail against it. We are not built upon 'sinking sand'. We are upon the Rock, the Lord Jesus Christ and we have a purpose to fulfill in this earth, therefore God's protection over us shall prevail. There is no weapon formed against us that can ever prosper. Our purpose and destiny is God ordained and will not be deterred nor compromised.

My deepest hope is for those who 'think' they are gay and must stay that way will be truly delivered and set free from that lie. No one has to stay in sin, otherwise Jesus died in vain. It's still a choice... a life choice.

So many who 'think' they are gay are victims of a deceiving spirit and need to know that God loves them too much for them to 'remain' in that mindset, let alone the destructive lifestyle. My heartfelt prayer is for their salvation and life restored as God preordained for them.

Jesus was clear and did not stutter about Marriage being between a man and a woman, only. It will never stand any other way in God's heart.

The supreme court does not decide on the true meaning of marriage. Marriage was defined long before any of them ever existed, as a Man and a Woman.

Jesus replied. “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.’

So they are no longer two, but one.

Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”

Matthew 10


When do folks get it?

By ignoring God's Word; they are also isolating themselves from God's protection.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
Be encouraged. There is only 'One' Supreme Being and He is not outdone by man's foolishness.

Here's a beautiful example:

This article amazes me:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/january-february/my-train-wreck-conversion.html?paging=off

My Train Wreck Conversion

As a leftist lesbian professor, I despised Christians. Then I somehow became one.

Rosaria Champagne Butterfield

[posted 2/7/2013 9:26AM ]

The word Jesus stuck in my throat like an elephant tusk; no matter how hard I choked, I couldn't hack it out. Those who professed the name commanded my pity and wrath. As a university professor, I tired of students who seemed to believe that "knowing Jesus" meant knowing little else. Christians in particular were bad readers, always seizing opportunities to insert a Bible verse into a conversation with the same point as a punctuation mark: to end it rather than deepen it.

Stupid. Pointless. Menacing. That's what I thought of Christians and their god Jesus, who in paintings looked as powerful as a Breck Shampoo commercial model.

As a professor of English and women's studies, on the track to becoming a tenured radical, I cared about morality, justice, and compassion. Fervent for the worldviews of Freud, Hegel, Marx, and Darwin, I strove to stand with the disempowered. I valued morality. And I probably could have stomached Jesus and his band of warriors if it weren't for how other cultural forces buttressed the Christian Right. Pat Robertson's quip from the 1992 Republican National Convention pushed me over the edge: "Feminism," he sneered, "encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." Indeed. The surround sound of Christian dogma comingling with Republican politics demanded my attention.

After my tenure book was published, I used my post to advance the understandable allegiances of a leftist lesbian professor. My life was happy, meaningful, and full. My partner and I shared many vital interests: aids activism, children's health and literacy, Golden Retriever rescue, our Unitarian Universalist church, to name a few. Even if you believed the ghost stories promulgated by Robertson and his ilk, it was hard to argue that my partner and I were anything but good citizens and caregivers. The GLBT community values hospitality and applies it with skill, sacrifice, and integrity.

I began researching the Religious Right and their politics of hatred against queers like me. To do this, I would need to read the one book that had, in my estimation, gotten so many people off track: the Bible. While on the lookout for some Bible scholar to aid me in my research, I launched my first attack on the unholy trinity of Jesus, Republican politics, and patriarchy, in the form of an article in the local newspaper about Promise Keepers. It was 1997...


The article generated many rejoinders, so many that I kept a Xerox box on each side of my desk: one for hate mail, one for fan mail. But one letter I received defied my filing system. It was from the pastor of the Syracuse Reformed Presbyterian Church. It was a kind and inquiring letter. Ken Smith encouraged me to explore the kind of questions I admire: How did you arrive at your interpretations? How do you know you are right? Do you believe in God? Ken didn't argue with my article; rather, he asked me to defend the presuppositions that undergirded it. I didn't know how to respond to it, so I threw it away.

Later that night, I fished it out of the recycling bin and put it back on my desk, where it stared at me for a week, confronting me with the worldview divide that demanded a response. As a postmodern intellectual, I operated from a historical materialist worldview, but Christianity is a supernatural worldview. Ken's letter punctured the integrity of my research project without him knowing it.

(continued next post)
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
Friends with the Enemy

With the letter, Ken initiated two years of bringing the church to me, a heathen. Oh, I had seen my share of Bible verses on placards at Gay Pride marches. That Christians who mocked me on Gay Pride Day were happy that I and everyone I loved were going to hell was clear as blue sky. That is not what Ken did. He did not mock. He engaged. So when his letter invited me to get together for dinner, I accepted. My motives at the time were straightforward: Surely this will be good for my research.

Something else happened. Ken and his wife, Floy, and I became friends. They entered my world. They met my friends. We did book exchanges. We talked openly about sexuality and politics. They did not act as if such conversations were polluting them. They did not treat me like a blank slate. When we ate together, Ken prayed in a way I had never heard before. His prayers were intimate. Vulnerable. He repented of his sin in front of me. He thanked God for all things. Ken's God was holy and firm, yet full of mercy. And because Ken and Floy did not invite me to church, I knew it was safe to be friends.

I started reading the Bible. I read the way a glutton devours. I read it many times that first year in multiple translations. At a dinner gathering my partner and I were hosting, my transgendered friend J cornered me in the kitchen. She put her large hand over mine. "This Bible reading is changing you, Rosaria," she warned.

With tremors, I whispered, "J, what if it is true? What if Jesus is a real and risen Lord? What if we are all in trouble?"

J exhaled deeply. "Rosaria," she said, "I was a Presbyterian minister for 15 years. I prayed that God would heal me, but he didn't. If you want, I will pray for you."

I continued reading the Bible, all the while fighting the idea that it was inspired. But the Bible got to be bigger inside me than I. It overflowed into my world. I fought against it with all my might. Then, one Sunday morning, I rose from the bed of my lesbian lover, and an hour later sat in a pew at the Syracuse Reformed Presbyterian Church. Conspicuous with my butch haircut, I reminded myself that I came to meet God, not fit in. The image that came in like waves, of me and everyone I loved suffering in hell, vomited into my consciousness and gripped me in its teeth.

I fought with everything I had.

I did not want this.

I did not ask for this.

I counted the costs. And I did not like the math on the other side of the equal sign.

But God's promises rolled in like sets of waves into my world. One Lord's Day, Ken preached on John 7:17: "If anyone wills to do [God's] will, he shall know concerning the doctrine" (NKJV). This verse exposed the quicksand in which my feet were stuck. I was a thinker. I was paid to read books and write about them. I expected that in all areas of life, understanding came before obedience. And I wanted God to show me, on my terms, why homosexuality was a sin. I wanted to be the judge, not one being judged.

But the verse promised understanding after obedience. I wrestled with the question: Did I really want to understand homosexuality from God's point of view, or did I just want to argue with him? I prayed that night that God would give me the willingness to obey before I understood. I prayed long into the unfolding of day. When I looked in the mirror, I looked the same. But when I looked into my heart through the lens of the Bible, I wondered, Am I a lesbian, or has this all been a case of mistaken identity? If Jesus could split the world asunder, divide marrow from soul, could he make my true identity prevail? Who am I? Who will God have me to be?

Then, one ordinary day, I came to Jesus, openhanded and naked. In this war of worldviews, Ken was there. Floy was there. The church that had been praying for me for years was there. Jesus triumphed. And I was a broken mess. Conversion was a train wreck. I did not want to lose everything that I loved. But the voice of God sang a sanguine love song in the rubble of my world.

I weakly believed that if Jesus could conquer death, he could make right my world. I drank, tentatively at first, then passionately, of the solace of the Holy Spirit. I rested in private peace, then community, and today in the shelter of a covenant family, where one calls me "wife" and many call me "mother."

I have not forgotten the blood Jesus surrendered for this life.

And my former life lurks in the edges of my heart, shiny and still like a knife.

Rosaria Champagne Butterfield is the author of The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert (Crown & Covenant). She lives with her family in Durham, North Carolina, where her husband pastors the First Reformed Presbyterian Church of Durham.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/january-february/my-train-wreck-conversion.html?paging=off


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Praise God!

God changed this woman's heart and her life...

I'm praying for others to be delivered even more so. :pray:
 
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