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The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

UmSumayyah

Well-Known Member
^^ I do not want to go down the road again with comparing flu (&every other possible danger) to a global viral pandemic.

However, re " schools can open all they want , but doesn't mean you have to send your kids"...

That reasoning only considers the children.

For schools to run, however,a whole lot of adults have to be involved incl principals, assistant principals, secretaries, teachers, nurses, counselors, social workers, psychologists, paraprofessionals, substitute teachers, cafeteria workers, maintenance workers including regular building workers, outside emergency maintenance workers and others such as electricians & plumbers , volunteers including retired teachers and parents, parent coordinators, supervisors, security, librarians, accountants, speech pathologists etc.

This is why schools can't 'just open' safely during a pandemic.
Those people don't have to go to work either, and many are not going to.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
Again, where are people being forced to send their kids?

Plenty of people in my area have looked at the plans for various schools and opted out.
The school districts around here have yet to announce their plans. They keep sending out surveys, but pushing registration.
 

dicapr

Well-Known Member
Again, where are people being forced to send their kids?

Plenty of people in my area have looked at the plans for various schools and opted out.
I never said they were forced. I said that neither choice was a choice that the parents are comfortable with. Stay home and let work suffer/quit your job or risk the health of everyone in the family.

I’m glad your area isn’t having any issues. I know there is a shortage of daycare spots where I live. So not sending them to school is less of an option than other places. We have also had COVID outbreaks at some of the daycares. So no it isn’t about simply making arrangements
 

UmSumayyah

Well-Known Member
During the last few months of school, the cafeteria staff that were preparing and handing out free lunches for the children kept contracting or coming into contact with the coronavirus. They had to stop handing out lunches a few times.
A logical response.
 

UmSumayyah

Well-Known Member
I never said they were forced. I said that neither choice was a choice that the parents are comfortable with. Stay home and let work suffer/quit your job or risk the health of everyone in the family.

I’m glad your area isn’t having any issues. I know there is a shortage of daycare spots where I live. So not sending them to school is less of an option than other places. We have also had COVID outbreaks at some of the daycares. So no it isn’t about simply making arrangements
Life s always about making choices and having to live with the risks.

My area overall is fine, but some neighborhoods have had more impact than others. Parents in those neighborhoods were more likely to keep their kids home. Some systems have not given anyone the choice of school in person at all. Everyone is online with the risks and benefits that come with that.
 

dicapr

Well-Known Member
Life s always about making choices and having to live with the risks.

My area overall is fine, but some neighborhoods have had more impact than others. Parents in those neighborhoods were more likely to keep their kids home. Some systems have not given anyone the choice of school in person at all. Everyone is online with the risks and benefits that come with that.

I’m glad for you. Many parents can’t keep their kids home due to their job situation. We need to be see all sides of these arguments. It’s easier for some families to keep kids home than others. You have to have the money, family support, or job flexibility to make that a viable choice for your family. Just like online learning can only be an option if you live in an area with adequate internet-which some places still don’t have.

As someone who is immunosuppressed I would love for kids to stay home. But I am
able to empathize with individuals who have to work, may not have family members who are able or willing to watch their kids, and are having issues finding child care. They feel forced into making a choice they don’t want to make because they do not have really have another option except in theory.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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I'm living in South Florida, the new epicenter for rising COVID cases. Been working from home, avoiding going out, staying masked up every time I do go out. The only person I have contact with on a regular basis is my BF. I've sworn him to stay masked up and 6 feet away from other people as much as humanly possible.

My extended family lives in North Florida. I've been up to visit a few times. They, too, have been super careful, especially because of my two 65+ year old parents and 100 year old grandmother. I've stayed with them a few days at a time, and thankfully, no problems.

Other than that, I saw my best friend for the first time since this all started on July 4th (her birthday). We were both 6 feet apart, masked up, etc.

I've been declining social events. I cannot believe folks are around here actually going out to bars, clubs, eating in restaurants, and traveling *to* Miami for 4th of July vacation (one of my sister's friends did :nono:). I got invited on 2 road trips and declined both because I didn't feel comfortable, especially not being around these people and not knowing where they had been.
I work for the Public Health Sector in N.FL
I have a friend on the ground in public health in Lauderdale. Stay home and do essential runs. Its a mess. We have all been trained and have a blueprint on how to handle these issues. Leadership refuses to use it. People are quitting her job left and right. She just texted me today. They are leaving needed services behind to man the testing sites. But people are getting COVID and are quitting
 

ScorpioBeauty09

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I just got a reminder of how people are not honest about their COVID status and my blood is boiling. :angry2::angry2:

A couple weeks after my state went into SIP we found out our kitchen needed to be taken apart and remodeled. We've not been able to use our entire kitchen since April. It took a moment but we found someone to remodel. They came over today and just casually mentioned that two of his workers tested positive for COVID19, meaning he was exposed. :eek::eek: I didn't have any contact with the person, as I was in another section of the house, and everyone wore masks. But others in my household did. There's enough space to where we can keep our distance, and everything the person touched was wiped clean.

In truth, I'm probably okay but I have a couple in-person Dr appointments coming up and I've let my Dr.'s office know so they can reschedule if necessary.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Just saw this and I'm concerned. If the antibodies only last a few months, how effective is the initial vaccine going to actually be? I didn't plan on taking it, but depending on when the vaccine is available, this could go even more left than it already is depending on people's immune response.
It will be no different from the flu vaccine which is only good for 1 season. Viruses mutate. There will NEVER be complete herd immunity because of the way coronaviruses and influenzaviruses mutate. What will happen is that you will have to receive a vaccine once yearly. Who doing that?
 

Kanky

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I don’t think it matters whether they open schools or not. If they open them, they will end up closing them when people start coming down with Covid-19. As far as flu and other disease comparisons go, schools have closed for flu and measles outbreaks before. Even if it isn’t deadly, it is hard to run a school when large numbers of people are sick.

I think that parents need to figure out how they will handle school closures and education from home because we are likely to end up in that situation whether they open the schools in the fall or not.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Yes but sadly some parents will administer fever reducing medication prior to dropping their child off or even going to work just to be able to bypass the temperature check.
Right. I know parents right now who will dope their kid up so they can get 4 hours of work in, so the meds can wear off and they take 4 hours leave rather than 8. Meanwhile the kid done passed flu, strep, pink eye and God knows what to the rest of the class. It happens EVERY FLU season. Kid come in looking like death warmed over with a "96-97 deg" temp. Then after naptime, the kid is blaring at 103 and the staff are pissed.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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I completely agree that the entire community is put at risk with children going back in class learning. The issue is so multifaceted.

A teacher was on tv last night was speaking about how special needs students cannot get the education they need at home due to their special circumstances.

It’s just messed up when all of this could have been avoided if the US had a true shut down in the spring time and national mask rules when we reopened. Now we are stuck in this purgatory of community spread.
We are fighting lack of common sense at this point. You got parents fighting to not have to wear masks and participate in a shut down, and then because they refuse to sit still, schools are opting not to open at all. I think that if the option were only open to people who's job truly prevents WFH options, you'd see at most about 15% of kids returning.

In my district we made a last minute decision to keep my rising 1st grader home. We knew she'd have a super small class size of less than 15. Her Kinder class at max capacity was 16. My issue was they literally said and I quote: "We can't guarantee we'll be shutting down a classroom or the school if a teacher or student tests positive for COVID." They said the contact tracers will contact the students exposed (possibly if the parent can identify all the students) and then if its a teacher, they plan to bring in a substitute. Had they had better plan, we would have considered it. But nope.

And now, parents who originally opted to send their kids are demanding to be allowed to choose the virtual platform because the deadline to choose was Monday.
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
I don’t think it matters whether they open schools or not. If they open them, they will end up closing them when people start coming down with Covid-19. As far as flu and other disease comparisons go, schools have closed for flu and measles outbreaks before. Even if it isn’t deadly, it is hard to run a school when large numbers of people are sick.

I think that parents need to figure out how they will handle school closures and education from home because we are likely to end up in that situation whether they open the schools in the fall or not.
This is what I'm telling my other parent friends who are insisting they send their child. Some for reasons where they literally have to work or not work because they are a server or domestic servant, or maid, or janitor, and then the parents who literally admit they want their kids out of their hair....I tell them, please just please prepare for the possibility that by Halloween or Thanksgiving break, there will be NO returning to schools due to the sheer numbers.
The first few kids that start filling the ERs by Labor day and shortly after will have communities reeling, and parents will simply pull their kids anyway and demand access to the digital platform, even if the school is dragging its feet about closing. I pray everyone just be prepared and think proactively. We remain a nation of last minute reacting people.
 

Kanky

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Again, where are people being forced to send their kids?

Plenty of people in my area have looked at the plans for various schools and opted out.
In general it is good to know the laws about school attendance and homeschooling in your area. Plenty of people have ended up in the criminal justice system for not sending their kids to school, and you cannot count on the criminal justice system to be reasonable or fair when it comes to black people.
 

Kanky

Well-Known Member
This is what I'm telling my other parent friends who are insisting they send their child. Some for reasons where they literally have to work or not work because they are a server or domestic servant, or maid, or janitor, and then the parents who literally admit they want their kids out of their hair....I tell them, please just please prepare for the possibility that by Halloween or Thanksgiving break, there will be NO returning to schools due to the sheer numbers.
The first few kids that start filling the ERs by Labor day and shortly after will have communities reeling, and parents will simply pull their kids anyway and demand access to the digital platform, even if the school is dragging its feet about closing. I pray everyone just be prepared and think proactively. We remain a nation of last minute reacting people.
Some countries that reopened schools have had to close them again and those countries were managing the pandemic better than we are.
 

UmSumayyah

Well-Known Member
I don’t think it matters whether they open schools or not. If they open them, they will end up closing them when people start coming down with Covid-19. As far as flu and other disease comparisons go, schools have closed for flu and measles outbreaks before. Even if it isn’t deadly, it is hard to run a school when large numbers of people are sick.

I think that parents need to figure out how they will handle school closures and education from home because we are likely to end up in that situation whether they open the schools in the fall or not.
In districts that gave a choice, some parents chose online for exactly this reason. They have certainty.
 

UmSumayyah

Well-Known Member
In general it is good to know the laws about school attendance and homeschooling in your area. Plenty of people have ended up in the criminal justice system for not sending their kids to school, and you cannot count on the criminal justice system to be reasonable or fair when it comes to black people.
Anyone who can't take a few minutes to read the law will end up with problems and has likely already caused themselves unnecessary trouble in life.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
You can't beat this pooh with a stick.

Days after saying 'everyone is lying' about pandemic, Chuck Woolery says his son contracted COVID-19

SAN DIEGO — Days after claiming that "everyone is lying" about the COVID-19 pandemic — a view shared by President Donald Trump with a retweet — former Love Connection host Chuck Woolery announced that his son has contracted the virus.

The former game show host-turned-political activist made headlines earlier this week when Trump retweeted Woolery's claim to his 83 million followers.

"The most outrageous lies are the ones about Covid 19. Everyone is lying," Woolery tweeted earlier this week. "The CDC, Media, Democrats, our Doctors, not all but most, that we are told to trust. I think it's all about the election and keeping the economy from coming back, which is about the election. I'm sick of it."

79-year-old deactivated his Twitter account Wednesday after publishing a tweet saying, "Covid-19 is real and it is here."

"My son tested positive for the virus, and I feel for those suffering and especially for those who have lost loved ones," Woolery said in a tweet on Monday morning. The tweet is viewable in web archives.

A publicist told CNN that Woolery wanted a break from social media, so he deactivated his Twitter account.
https://www.wxyz.com/news/national/...huck-woolery-says-his-son-contracted-covid-19
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I don't see how we get away from this thing.... she has been in quarantine since the beginning....
People say this but then they don’t count when that time such and such person stopped by the house for a visit or when they just ran over to visit somebody for “just a minute”. The only other explanation is somebody in the house was sneaking out.
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
People say this but then they don’t count when that time such and such person stopped by the house for a visit or when they just ran over to visit somebody for “just a minute”. The only other explanation is somebody in the house was sneaking out.

This right here. There are people who know good and well their loved ones have been out and about in the Rona and they still invite them over to their house. And because they're kin, they don't make them wear a mask or let them wear it wrong. Not to mention all the packages they are getting delivered that they are not sanitizing before they bring them in.
 
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