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The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
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Clorox Comfort Gloves to wash dishes, I saw on amazon $17 for one pair. So I went to the local Key Food and got a no name for 99 cents. It is Crazy!!!
Ebay...Sent me an update and several offers for Microban 24...I was :happydance: :yahoo: :happydance: But it didn't last long :cry4: :lol:

Not only were the prices high but the shipping was even higher for some of the sellers: $18 to $25 for shipping. :shocked: I . am . so . not . kidding. :nono:
 

Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
I need to make a 'Before Covid' list. I'm so serious :lol: It would be a list of price comparisons and item availability 'then' and 'now'.

For instance: I used to buy two 16 oz bottles of alcohol and peroxide for $1.00 ( .50 each). They are now $15 or more, depending on who the suppliers are. This is insane; totally insane with these price jumps. I stocked up on them (long before Covid) and thankfully, I still have a good supply.

Lysol, Clorox used to be $3.00 ..........Now the prices are just plain ridiculous; that's if you can find them. :nono: :nono: :nono:

Same here in Europe. smh
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
There is something strange about the hydroxychloroquine situation. I say this because my cousin, an MD, was one of the first to get it when she contracted Covid in late Feb. it saved her life.
If you listen to Organic Olivia’s podcast she details her parents fight against covid. Her dad got the hydroxy too.

My belief is hydroxychloroquine
will work only if the symptoms
for which it is effective
are what you have.
Just as a pain med
will be necessary and effective
if you have a headache
but not if you do not.

The problem is Covid-19
is not a one-size fits all disease
So many different experiences so far
from the disease
not to mention
so much yet to be learned.

So what works for one
will not work for another
Which is why we cannot have
People like airhead in charge
touting remedies all willy-nilly

There is a video I saw once
that made the most sense
to me.

Let me try to find it.

Disclaimer: I have not
watched the entire show
which is over an hour long
and two vids as far as I can tell
I only saw the Whatsapp clip
which was from 24:15

So FF to 24:14 to get
to the relevant part I mention
This is Uganda TV BTW
 
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Ganjababy

Well-Known Member
For some reason I thought that he was insinuating that masks were useless. I don’t remember even reading the other bit regarding healthcare workers and sick people. Which makes sense to me.
I don't care about changing anybody's mind.

In the March 2020 clip, Fauci said: “Right now in the United States people should not be walking around with masks … You should think of healthcare providers who are needing them and the people who are ill.”

The logic at the time was if people were sick they and the people who deal with them should wear a mask to protect everybody else. What was unknown in March was that the virus was being spread fastest by asymptomatic carriers and since carriers can't be identified without tests then everybody needed to wear a mask. When Fauci knew better he told the public how to do better.
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
For some reason I thought that he was insinuating that masks were useless. I don’t remember even reading the other bit regarding healthcare workers and sick people. Which makes sense to me.

I understood exactly like
@Crackers Phinn did

Initially masks were for the sick
and first responders
especially because of
supply shortage.
But as more was learned
and pre-symptomatic people
became the biggest spreaders,
everyone wearing masks
to stop the spread made sense.

In fact, the minute I learned
that there was
an incubation period
before symptoms showed,
I suggested at work
we order masks to wear
so no one
makes anyone sick.
I was shut down because
"people's rights" and whatnot :rolleyes:
Later that week (early April?)
CDC put out the recommendation
and we got the greenlight
to order surgical masks.
Still since America plays too much
the masks were made optional. :spinning:
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
Someone posted a JAMA article here which I don't see right now. Fauci says that Vit D deficiency is not common. NOT TRUE FOR THE BLACK AND BROWN POPULATION!

I've been hearing about Vit D deficiency way before Covid. Fauci is for the white man. You see who he was reccing D to Jennifer Garner, not Tiffany Haddish. SMH


In better news, I checked my nieces's College COVID dashboard and they went from code Yellow to Green with no corona cases in 3 days!!!!!!
 
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naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
That is why we should have adequate levels of Zinc, D, C and others...... but I'm not trying to convince anybody anymore. If you don't know by now....... carry on.
Prevention and building your immune system will help and nutrition, the nutrients you listed here will go a long way. I said it upthread and totally agree with that. Like mask wearing, people are going to take heed or ignore great advice. I'm leaning on what i know. I work in public health but my degree is in clinical nutrition. The nutrients above are well researched to the cellular level and even how Zinc and D influence RNA transcription. But like you said...you can only lead a horse to water. They will decide if they will drink. You're right there.
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
Someone posted a JAMA article here which I don't see right now. Fauci says that Vit D deficiency is not common. NOT TRUE FOR THE BLACK AND BROWN POPULATION!

I've been hearing about Vit D deficiency way before Covid. Fauci is for the white man. You see who he was reccing D to Jennifer Garner, not Tiffany Haddish. SMH


In better news, I checked my nieces's College COVID dashboard and they went from code Yellow to Green with no corona cases in 3 days!!!!!!
You're right to doubt him.
Cause thats a bunch of BS. Its extremely common...even among whites. Like nah thats BS if he said that.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
“I think it really relates to the importance of vitamin D in host defense against infection. There’s no doubt that if you are vitamin D deficient, you might have a poor outcome or a greater chance of getting into trouble with an infection. Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient, so adding additional vitamin D may not actually have a substantial clinical effect. That doesn’t lessen the importance of a normal level of vitamin D. In some of the developing countries, there have been studies with tuberculosis and other diseases. Those who are vitamin deficient, including vitamin D and vitamin A, they do worse.”
Abbasi J. Anthony Fauci, MD, on COVID-19 Vaccines, Schools, and Larry Kramer. JAMA.
Published online June 08, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.9222

Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient ≠ Vit D deficiency is not common
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
“I think it really relates to the importance of vitamin D in host defense against infection. There’s no doubt that if you are vitamin D deficient, you might have a poor outcome or a greater chance of getting into trouble with an infection. Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient, so adding additional vitamin D may not actually have a substantial clinical effect. That doesn’t lessen the importance of a normal level of vitamin D. In some of the developing countries, there have been studies with tuberculosis and other diseases. Those who are vitamin deficient, including vitamin D and vitamin A, they do worse.”


Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient ≠ Vit D deficiency is not common
I think the idea is the same. He downplays that vitamin D deficiency is a thing to be considered. Your point?
 

Kalia1

Well-Known Member
I had a COVID test yesterday as a precursor to my dental surgery next week.

The test was a tad uncomfortable but not unbearable.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I think the idea is the same. He downplays that vitamin D deficiency is a thing to be considered. Your point?
My point is when something doesn't sound right it's important to look at what someone said vs what people tell you they said.

Case in point, here you say that Fauci downplays vitamin D deficiency is a thing to be considered, yet the quote I posted says “ There’s no doubt that if you are vitamin D deficient, you might have a poor outcome or a greater chance of getting into trouble with an infection " also "Those who are vitamin deficient, including vitamin D and vitamin A, they do worse.” Dr Fauci stating these two points is the opposite of downplaying vitamin D deficiency.
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
My point is when something doesn't sound right it's important to look at what someone said vs what people tell you they said.

Case in point, here you say that Fauci downplays vitamin D deficiency is a thing to be considered, yet the quote I posted says “ There’s no doubt that if you are vitamin D deficient, you might have a poor outcome or a greater chance of getting into trouble with an infection " also "Those who are vitamin deficient, including vitamin D and vitamin A, they do worse.” Dr Fauci stating these two points is the opposite of downplaying vitamin D deficiency.
But then he says, most people in the modern world are not deficient. I maintain my position and agree to disagree.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
Thank you. Cause NOBODY walking this green earth right now KNEW how this virus was going to act. We knew one was coming but viruses act how they gone act. Made worse when ppl behave recklessly.
The ones who created it know..... and it got those people under control and stopped all of that protesting.. cough cough.. too bad for the rest of the world. That’s my conspiracy theory.
 

Everything Zen

Well-Known Member
Indonesia ain’t playin’


Indonesians caught without a mask forced to dig graves for Covid-19 victims


.
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
I live in the modern world. If I paid attention to Fauci and read his words:

“ Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient....” I know this not to be the case for brown and black people.

I wouldn’t think to test my levels or supplement for it or inform my family to do the same. That is clear to me. I’ll just leave it there.
 

Kanky

Well-Known Member
I live in the modern world. If I paid attention to Fauci and read his words:

“ Most people in the developed world are not vitamin D deficient....” I know this not to be the case for brown and black people.

I wouldn’t think to test my levels or supplement for it or inform my family to do the same. That is clear to me. I’ll just leave it there.
I was mad that the media’s focus was on racism, which white people aren‘t going to do anything but feign concern over, instead of on the things that black people can control like supplements. I think that vitamin d deficiency should’ve gotten the same amount of attention that “black people are poor service workers living in multigenerational households” got because it is the thing that you can control.
 
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vevster

Well-Known Member
I was mad that the media’s focus was on racism, which white people aren‘t going to do anything but fein concern over, instead of on the things that black people can control like supplements.
EXACTLY!!!! Give us something actionable.... instead of sad faces.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
If you tell people that Vitamin D may help prevent covid-19, masks and social distancing will become even more lax and then when people catch the virus first thing out of their mouth will be "but you told us we'd be alright....." because as the example above shows, people don't listen or read what the experts say, they repeat what they think they heard or what they want to hear.

What was the result of health experts telling the public that older people or those with co-morbidities were more prone to catching Covid-19? Younger people and people who didn't know they had co-morbidities or didn't know what co-morbidities meant took that as the ok to smush themselves in bars and other social venues like cattle and inhale all the virus they could handle. Six months into a pandemic, students of all ages who are prone to believing they are immortal anyway are just picking up the virus within weeks of re-entering schools because "old people get covid".

Bottom line is that people were tired of the pandemic when it started and want somebody to tell them that there is a magic bullet/pill/concoction/short cut/cheat code that's going to make them feel like they can avoid doing the three things that the experts say work: Masks/Social Distancing/Washing hands.

Yes, black people are generally vitamin D deficient. I learned that my levels were low in 2014 and have been incorporating them with multivitamins, Iron and later K2 after my maniac dentist who has a whole :moon: podcast and blog on how vitamin D prevents/cures pretty much everything you can imagine told me to start taking it. So not nary a thing in this thread is new to me.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I'm pleasantly surprised by Dee Snider
Twisted Sister Singer to Anti-Maskers: Don't Use Our Song
By Associated Press Florida
PUBLISHED 11:49 AM ET Sep. 18, 2020

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — Twisted Sister singer Dee Snider took to social media to condemn anti-maskers who went into a Florida Target store blaring the group's hit “We're Not Gonna Take It" while ripping off their masks. In a tweet Wednesday, Snider called the stunt “moronic," and shared a video that was recorded by an upset customer inside the Target at Coral Ridge Mall in Fort Lauderdale. The video had more than 30 million views.

Snider said the group doesn't have his “permission or blessing to use my song for their moronic cause." He also called the protesters "selfish."
The stunt drew quick action from Broward County officials. Target was fined for not enforcing the county's mask law and citations were mailed to the protesters, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported. Fort Lauderdale resident Chris Nelson told the newspaper that his group, ReOpen South Florida, organized the “flash mob." He also posted a YouTube video of it from their vantage point on Tuesday.

“In celebration of Burn Your Mask Day we decided to spread some freedom dust over the shoppers and employees of Target!” the YouTube caption said.
The small group of anti-maskers approached customers inside the store. “We’re Americans, breathe,” a woman yelled. “It’s all a lie!” Another woman screamed that a customer should take the mask off. “You don’t need it,” she said. If a guest complied, the group cheered.

Federal health officials have said masks could effectively halt the spread of COVID-19 and have begged the public to embrace them. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a committee of U.S. senators on Wednesday that a simple face covering could be more effective than a vaccine in protecting people from the virus. Nelson has been involved with previous protests related to the coronavirus pandemic. He staged a protest against beach closures on the Fourth of July. He shouted about restrictions being intrusions on citizens’ Fourth Amendment rights during a Broward County news conference. Police asked him to leave, saying he was causing a disturbance. He initially resisted but complied after an officer ordered him to place his hands behind his back.

Three people were identified on video and the county mailed them $100 citations for failing to wear facial coverings in public spaces to help curb the spread of COVID-19, Broward County spokeswoman Margaret Stapleton told the newspaper. “Any additional participants from the video that are able to be identified will also receive $100 citations in the mail,” she said. Interim Assistant Police Chief Frank Sousa said the group was gone when officers arrived. But he told the newspaper the protesters had entered the store with their masks on. Danielle Schumann, a Target corporate spokeswoman, said Target requires shoppers to wear masks inside stores. The protesters were asked to leave “after they removed their masks and became disruptive and rude to other shoppers,” she said. Nelson told the Sun Sentinel he will continue to use the Twisted Sister song, despite Snider's criticism. “It’s sad,” Nelson said. “It’s a great anthem about freedom and overcoming oppression.”
 

mochalocks

Well-Known Member
I'm pleasantly surprised by Dee Snider
Twisted Sister Singer to Anti-Maskers: Don't Use Our Song
By Associated Press Florida
PUBLISHED 11:49 AM ET Sep. 18, 2020

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — Twisted Sister singer Dee Snider took to social media to condemn anti-maskers who went into a Florida Target store blaring the group's hit “We're Not Gonna Take It" while ripping off their masks. In a tweet Wednesday, Snider called the stunt “moronic," and shared a video that was recorded by an upset customer inside the Target at Coral Ridge Mall in Fort Lauderdale. The video had more than 30 million views.

Snider said the group doesn't have his “permission or blessing to use my song for their moronic cause." He also called the protesters "selfish."
The stunt drew quick action from Broward County officials. Target was fined for not enforcing the county's mask law and citations were mailed to the protesters, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported. Fort Lauderdale resident Chris Nelson told the newspaper that his group, ReOpen South Florida, organized the “flash mob." He also posted a YouTube video of it from their vantage point on Tuesday.

“In celebration of Burn Your Mask Day we decided to spread some freedom dust over the shoppers and employees of Target!” the YouTube caption said.
The small group of anti-maskers approached customers inside the store. “We’re Americans, breathe,” a woman yelled. “It’s all a lie!” Another woman screamed that a customer should take the mask off. “You don’t need it,” she said. If a guest complied, the group cheered.

Federal health officials have said masks could effectively halt the spread of COVID-19 and have begged the public to embrace them. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a committee of U.S. senators on Wednesday that a simple face covering could be more effective than a vaccine in protecting people from the virus. Nelson has been involved with previous protests related to the coronavirus pandemic. He staged a protest against beach closures on the Fourth of July. He shouted about restrictions being intrusions on citizens’ Fourth Amendment rights during a Broward County news conference. Police asked him to leave, saying he was causing a disturbance. He initially resisted but complied after an officer ordered him to place his hands behind his back.

Three people were identified on video and the county mailed them $100 citations for failing to wear facial coverings in public spaces to help curb the spread of COVID-19, Broward County spokeswoman Margaret Stapleton told the newspaper. “Any additional participants from the video that are able to be identified will also receive $100 citations in the mail,” she said. Interim Assistant Police Chief Frank Sousa said the group was gone when officers arrived. But he told the newspaper the protesters had entered the store with their masks on. Danielle Schumann, a Target corporate spokeswoman, said Target requires shoppers to wear masks inside stores. The protesters were asked to leave “after they removed their masks and became disruptive and rude to other shoppers,” she said. Nelson told the Sun Sentinel he will continue to use the Twisted Sister song, despite Snider's criticism. “It’s sad,” Nelson said. “It’s a great anthem about freedom and overcoming oppression.”

Sigh, white people s....
 
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