Black Ambrosia
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These people are made for a trumpian world. It’s the rest of us that don’t fit.
@ the bolded, I think they are about to find out. That said, the majority of the Ultra Orthodox sects are generally a pretty fit group because of dietary restrictions, lack of smoking and they do a whole lot of walking. So it's possible that a lot of Covid cases may not lead to a lot of Covid deaths. They are still ridiculous for risking it tho.@Crackers Phinn
What would happen if their hospital gets to full capacity? 7000 is a lot of people, I just cant imagine they would risk their loved ones lives for some clout?
This type of disregard I see in different types religion? Makes me question a lot of things
What’s sad is that this is the next generation of leadership so there’ll be no improvement.In petty Game of Thrones-esque tea, there's two sons who are competing with each other over who is going to take their fathers place as Rabbi over this giant congregation. The congregation has chosen sides, and word is that the first wedding that was caught by the city and shut down last month got the dime dropped on them by the brother whose wedding had the 7K and nobody snitched.
Neither brother wants to look soft, so what better way to show you're the "chosen one" than if G-d blesses your wedding with nobody (especially you) getting sick with Covid or less people getting sick than your no good un-chosen brother? If you, the chosen one, does get sick, then you go to a privately owned, state of the art Orthodox hospital where everybody is sworn to secrecy and wait it out.
They are all a bunch of Hebrew hillbilly's who likely voted for Trump for no other reason than Jared Kushner's Israel deal.
As a Jew, I'm not excusing none of this foolery and they all go get what they get but I can fill in the tea that you ain't go read about in the news. One thing I think people should really pay attention to is that while these folks are backwards as fornication, any group where seven thousand people plus all the hundreds of people it took to make the event happen can keep a secret is a force to be reckoned with. The only reason the first group got caught is that the most powerful person on team B dropped a dime for his own selfish reasons, but nobody dropped that dime on him.
I’m still trying to figure that out myself. I keep saying all of this is showing how folks minds work and what they believe in...I'm trying to talk relatives out of flying cross country for Thanksgiving. These are all people in their late 30's and 40's so good and grown and they think this is a perfectly reasonable idea in a pandemic. I just don't understand what people are
I’m still trying to figure that out myself. I keep saying all of this is showing how folks minds work and what they believe in...
The problem with that is that you can't really predict who will be 'relatively fine' and who will die when a person gets Covid. People with underlying symptoms recover and people who were in good shape succumb to the illness. It's probable that there was a lot of overlap in the guests at the wedding so chances are that a whole lot of asymptomatic persons spread germs around both weddings. If you didn't get it at the first wedding, you probably picked something up at the second. And whether or not you die, you can be left with a whole variety of strange health problems that linger long after the illness is 'gone'.@ the bolded, I think they are about to find out. That said, the majority of the Ultra Orthodox sects are generally a pretty fit group because of dietary restrictions, lack of smoking and they do a whole lot of walking. So it's possible that a lot of Covid cases may not lead to a lot of Covid deaths. They are still ridiculous for risking it tho.
I'm trying to talk relatives out of flying cross country for Thanksgiving. These are all people in their late 30's and 40's so good and grown and they think this is a perfectly reasonable idea in a pandemic. I just don't understand what people are thinking.
I’m still trying to figure that out myself. I keep saying all of this is showing how folks minds work and what they believe in...
Why are people forgetting about the Spanish Flu of 1918? Why haven’t we learned from that catastrophic event?
I’ll have to check it out. I’ve been watched several documentaries on it, and I’m just amazed at the level of arrogance people have. It can’t be ignorance. People are just refusing to accept reality.The World Economic Forum posted a video on it on Facebook. I shared it twice on my page and here also. Got two likes on FB.
I’ll have to check it out. I’ve been watched several documentaries on it, and I’m just amazed at the level of arrogance people have. It can’t be ignorance. People are just refusing to accept reality.
These people weren't around so it didn't affect them. And if we don't know anything else, we know that some folks don't care about these things until it touches them personally.Why are people forgetting about the Spanish Flu of 1918?
And the human body is resilient. Those who don't think it's fake, believe they'll be fine. It's always some other person that has to do deal with the consequences - at least in their minds.These people weren't around so it didn't affect them. And if we don't know anything else, we know that some folks don't care about these things until it touches them personally.
It's too far in the "distant" past for them. And there are very few people even living who went through it - and they were babies then. This is why people are so detached from it. Personally I've been reading and watching as much as I can about - how did they fix it, where did it come from, masks? (Btw, they acted the same stupid way about masks then as they do now - protests and all!)Why are people forgetting about the Spanish Flu of 1918? Why haven’t we learned from that catastrophic event?
You are preaching to the choir. The only reason I mention the health aspect is these same people been squeezing into synagogues and every other regular thing they participate in every week since the pandemic began. I can guarantee you that every person at this wedding was sitting shoulder to shoulder in almost 7 days worth of High Holy Day services in September. I'm guessing their K-12 kids school year has been uninterrupted as well. The herd has probably thinned out but the hassids don't seem to be dropping like flies but it could be time for their luck to run out.The problem with that is that you can't really predict who will be 'relatively fine' and who will die when a person gets Covid. People with underlying symptoms recover and people who were in good shape succumb to the illness. It's probable that there was a lot of overlap in the guests at the wedding so chances are that a whole lot of asymptomatic persons spread germs around both weddings. If you didn't get it at the first wedding, you probably picked something up at the second. And whether or not you die, you can be left with a whole variety of strange health problems that linger long after the illness is 'gone'.
Your expectations of the average American's retention of history if they learned it at all is way too high.Why are people forgetting about the Spanish Flu of 1918? Why haven’t we learned from that catastrophic event?
We don't think history is important. We really don't. I was a history major in college and in US history classes my professor always spent at least a week talking about this.Why are people forgetting about the Spanish Flu of 1918? Why haven’t we learned from that catastrophic event?
We don't think history is important. We really don't. I was a history major in college and in US history classes my professor always spent at least a week talking about this.
Oh, they have already lost a ton of people; something like 70-80 rabbis just among the Hasidic population, in addition to hundreds within the communities. Ironically the Teitelbaum brothers of the feuding Satmar sect at issue had “reconciled” to great fanfare when their other brother and one of their wives were gravely ill with Covid in the spring. The other brother survived, after spending 2 1/2 months hospitalized, much of it on a ventilator. So it has hit home repeatedly at the highest level for them, but they still don’t care..... So it's possible that a lot of Covid cases may not lead to a lot of Covid deaths. ...
Because I'm probably a terrible person, my first thought was the bolded wasn't a deterrent because that's just a whole bunch of job openings for dudes who been waiting in the clutch to lead a congregation since they were 13.Oh, they have already lost a ton of people; something like 70-80 rabbis just among the Hasidic population, in addition to hundreds within the communities. Ironically the Teitelbaum brothers of the feuding Satmar sect at issue had “reconciled” to great fanfare when their other brother and one of their wives were gravely ill with Covid in the spring. The other brother survived, after spending 2 1/2 months hospitalized, much of it on a ventilator. So it has hit home repeatedly at the highest level for them, but they still don’t care.
Well... that actually appears more than once in the comments section of various Hasidic/Hasidic-adjacent online forums and media.Because I'm probably a terrible person, my first thought was the bolded wasn't a deterrent because that's just a whole bunch of job openings for dudes who been waiting in the clutch to lead a congregation since they were 13.