I already know what time it is with my PCP, so I’m going to have to see another physician. I’m not about to play that game with healthcare and clinical professionals. I got all of my vaccines and I hope my fellow healthcare colleagues do the same. I couldn’t even walk in the building without a flu shot..
I already know my kid's PCP is vaccinated and they don't even accept non-vaccinated children. My kid's daycare doesn't accept non-vaccinated children OR waivers (its private). When ppl ask if my kid's Peds office is good, I tell them, they are excellent and in high demand. But I tell them straight up if you are considering not vaccinating, you will need to go elsewhere. They will spread them out to a point.
Our offices here (IN FLORIDA) don't require a vaccine or negative test but they DO require a mask even though the mandates are removed.This is interesting. My PCP's policy on appointments is so strict I assumed he was vaccinated. I'm confident at a minimum he's tested regularly if he's not vaccinated but I plan to ask soon. They won't even open the door to let you in if you don't have proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test performed by their office.
^^^ I'm torn. I respect their right not to be vaccinated, but I also think that if you are a healthcare worker in close proximity to sick and contaminated individuals from a highly contagious virus, you should be vaccinated or at least work where you cannot become a threat to others. They'd have to be covered with PPE their entire shift just like before vaccines were available. Are they willing to do that at least? I only skimmed the article. Did it say what their options are?
They still have a right to not be vaccinated. They just have to find a job that doesn't require it.
In first federal ruling on vaccine mandates, judge sides with Houston hospital, dismissing claims from staff resistersHOUSTON – In the first federal ruling on vaccine mandates, a Houston judge Saturday dismissed a lawsuit by hospital employees who declined the COVID-19 shot – a decision that could have a ripple effect across the nation.
The case involved Houston Methodist, which was the first hospital system in the country to require that all its employees get vaccinated. U.S. District Judge Lynn N. Hughes said federal law does not prevent employers from issuing that mandate.
After months of warnings, Houston Methodist had put more than 170 of its 26,000 employees on unpaid suspension Monday. They were told they would be fired it they weren't vaccinated by June 21.
The hospital already had made it clear it means what it says: It fired the director of corporate risk – Bob Nevens – and another manager in April when they did not meet the earlier deadline for bosses.
In recent weeks, a few other major hospitals have followed Houston Methodist's lead, including the University of Pennsylvania, University of Louisville, New York Presbyterian and several major hospitals in the Washington, D.C. area.
Houston Methodist's CEO Marc Boom predicts more hospitals soon will join the effort. Many hospitals and employers were waiting for legal clarification before acting.
“We can now put this behind us and continue our focus on unparalleled safety, quality, service and innovation," Boom said after the ruling. "Our employees and physicians made their decisions for our patients, who are always at the center of everything we do."
The lawsuit was filed by 117 workers led by Jennifer Bridges, a nurse at Houston Methodist's Baytown hospital who declined the vaccine because she considers it experimental and dangerous. The judge disagreed, writing: "This claim is false, and it is also irrelevant."
Learning of the dismissal from USA TODAY, Bridges vowed not to give up. She has initiated a change.org petition that as of Saturday had drawn more than 9,000 signatures and a GoFundMe to pay for the lawsuit that has raised $130,000.
"This doesn't surprise me," she said
“Methodist is a very large company and they are pretty well protected in a lot of areas. We knew this was going to be a huge fight and we are prepared to fight it."
The lawsuit claimed that federal law prohibits employees from being required to get vaccinated without full U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval of the vaccines. Currently, the FDA has authorized the Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccines under a special provision for emergencies.
The judge dismissed this argument as well, saying that law does not apply to private employers. He also dismissed an argument that anyone who gets the vaccine is effectively a human subject in an experimental trial.
“The hospital's employees are not participants in a human trial," he wrote. "They are licensed doctors, nurses, medical technician, and staff members. The hospital has not applied to test the COVID-19 vaccines on its employees."
The lawsuit originally was filed in Texas state court but was moved to federal court at Houston Methodist's request. The federal judge ruled Saturday that Texas state law only protects workers from being fired if they are forced to commit a crime.
I mentioned this in another thread. It was so nasty.I didn't know this bit of disgusting virus history.
Weighing the risks, on February 5th of 1777, George Washington finally committed to the unpopular policy of mass small pox inoculation by writing to inform Congress of his plan. Throughout February, Washington, with no precedent for the operation he was about to undertake, covertly communicated to his commanding officers orders to oversee mass inoculations of their troops in the model of Morristown and Philadelphia (Dr. Shippen's Hospital). At least eleven hospitals had been constructed by the year's end.
George Washington and the First Mass Military Inoculation (John W. Kluge Center, Library of Congress) (loc.gov)
The process was simple. A physician lanced one of the infected patient’s pustules with a knife or scalpel and then inserted the infected blade under the skin of a healthy person. Generally the inoculated person contracted the disease, but in a much milder form.
Washington Inoculates an Army | American Battlefield Trust (battlefields.org)
I saw it for myself when I went to the hospital. It was like out of an apocalyptic movie! No supplies, clinical staffing shortages, etc.. I don’t understand why people are not getting it?!?? The government decided if you don’t get this shot, you are on your own. This is all the help we are gonna get.They still have a right to not be vaccinated. They just have to find a job that doesn't require it.
INSTALAWYERS were fighting online last week talmbout "they gone sue."
And Trump supporters are laughable. Ya'll hitched ya'll wagon to pro-capitalist policy makers and policies. What you think they gonna do? Businesses are people now and can make their own decisions.
And please don't worry about a nursing and health care worker shortage. If you are following my hiring woes post in the Career section, you'll see I discuss that they've been pulling RNs from the Philippines here in FL for the better part of a year. Ain't gone be no shortage. Keep playing games.