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The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

naturalgyrl5199

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So the vitamin C, d, Zinc cocktail does work according to this study. Which I already knew but it is good to see a study back it up for those that need studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8264737/#__ffn_sectitle

20-Week Study of Clinical Outcomes of Over-the-Counter COVID-19 Prophylaxis and Treatment

Right but you know vitamins are not FDA approved and never have been so people will refuse it based on their rationale for refusing the vaccine. Plus the quality of the vitamins vary.

Will the Walmart brand vitamins be just as effective as the very expensive ones? What about vegan and gluten free vitamins vs traditional OTC vitamins? What about people with absorption issues? Does it work with vitamin injections for them?

Vitamin quality VARIES a ton. The rationale is there. But I'm gonna side eye this effectiveness unless it can be repeated.

Oh and I gobble a ton of vitamins.
 

yamilee21

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Right but you know vitamins are not FDA approved and never have been so people will refuse it based on their rationale for refusing the vaccine. Plus the quality of the vitamins vary.

Will the Walmart brand vitamins be just as effective as the very expensive ones? What about vegan and gluten free vitamins vs traditional OTC vitamins? What about people with absorption issues? Does it work with vitamin injections for them?

Vitamin quality VARIES a ton. The rationale is there. But I'm gonna side eye this effectiveness unless it can be repeated.

Oh and I gobble a ton of vitamins.
It’s crazy that this effective supplement “cocktail” is so specific; most people have probably heard of Vitamin C, D and E, and maybe Zinc, but Quercetin and Quina? If you aren’t into natural health, you likely won’t know about those. The study also mentioned that various participants were taking individual supplements, such as Vitamin C or D alone, but taking individual supplements was the same as doing nothing - no benefit.

And you are right, supplements aren’t regulated and quality varies tremendously, along with prices. Such a study would need to be replicated as it might occur in real world conditions, with some people getting the Walmart brand and others getting the fancier brands (that natural health care providers sell on the side to their patients).
 

Kanky

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Right but you know vitamins are not FDA approved and never have been so people will refuse it based on their rationale for refusing the vaccine. Plus the quality of the vitamins vary.

Will the Walmart brand vitamins be just as effective as the very expensive ones? What about vegan and gluten free vitamins vs traditional OTC vitamins? What about people with absorption issues? Does it work with vitamin injections for them?

Vitamin quality VARIES a ton. The rationale is there. But I'm gonna side eye this effectiveness unless it can be repeated.

Oh and I gobble a ton of vitamins.
They need to actually prove that this works if it does. This study doesn’t even come close to that.

For the most part, vitamins and home remedies are not hurting anyone on their own. The harm comes when people trust so much in their ability to self-treat that they behave recklessly. Fewer precautions taken against Covid because you just know that your home remedies will work. Or not going to the hospital soon enough because you can handle it at home. Not just with Covid BTW, people who swear by these kinds of things tend to wait too long to treat all kinds of illnesses. I recall reading a study that said that people who take lots of supplements were more likely to die of cancer. Not because supplements cause cancer, but because they rely on their natural remedies and delay actual medical evaluation and treatment for longer periods of time.
 

Leeda.the.Paladin

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Y’all remember when that mama tried to treat her son who had the flu with vitamin c supplements until he got diarrhea? Poor thing died because his mama followed advice from ignorant people online instead of taking her kids to the doctor.

this was before the pandemic. But I see that there’s similar behavior out there and it’s quadrupled.

I also feel like we are entering a dark age where education is shunned.
 

LostInAdream

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Been at home quarantining bc DD got a sore throat from sleeping with the window open the day the temperature dropped from the high 70’s to low 50’s. I knew exactly the cause but you know with Covid she had to get tested. That was last week Wednesday and we just got the results tonight. Negative of course and her strep was negative as well. I didn't give her any meds except the cough syrup as she had a cough the following day after her sore throat which only lasted a day. Her school was thanking me for keeping her home even though her note said she could return today. I would never jeopardize the well-being of others even before covid. Her school had 40 kids out today and I'm nervous to send her back now :drunk:
 
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Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Since there's no cause of death, I suspect as an expert hypochondriac that because her lung x-rays came back clear that she probably died from blood clots. After all the dust settles, I'm almost positive that the link between "healthy" black/black adjacent kids who die unexpectedly from Covid are undiagnosed sickle cell anemia carriers.

People forget that Covid doesn't just attack the lungs. Wherever you're weak, that's what it takes out, it's just that respiratory system is the first place of contact and easiest thing to take out.
 

Melaninme

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dynamic1

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Right but you know vitamins are not FDA approved and never have been so people will refuse it based on their rationale for refusing the vaccine. Plus the quality of the vitamins vary.

Will the Walmart brand vitamins be just as effective as the very expensive ones? What about vegan and gluten free vitamins vs traditional OTC vitamins? What about people with absorption issues? Does it work with vitamin injections for them?

Vitamin quality VARIES a ton. The rationale is there. But I'm gonna side eye this effectiveness unless it can be repeated.

Oh and I gobble a ton of vitamins.
Agreed.

Per the acknowledgements the Doctor has patent pending formulations which may be available soon, if not already. I had to dig deep to minimize my skepticism after reading the acknowledgement and I love supps. How do you say there are no conflicts after that? Maybe I need to read it again.

Seems similar to info on University of AZ's Covid-19 page last year regarding supps (shorter list of options) along with a few other medical professionals.
 

dynamic1

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They’re just saying anything now lol

The fan in the window isn't new information. They said this last year I believe but definitely in January on the following page regarding ways to improve ventilation in the home.


ETA: It looks like they pulled it today saying its outdated and they will update the holiday guidance soon.

 
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naturalgyrl5199

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Agreed.

Per the acknowledgements the Doctor has patent pending formulations which may be available soon, if not already. I had to dig deep to minimize my skepticism after reading the acknowledgement and I love supps. How do you say there are no conflicts after that? Maybe I need to read it again.

Seems similar to info on University of AZ's Covid-19 page last year regarding supps (shorter list of options) along with a few other medical professionals.
Once I saw the patent pending formulation, I knew it would be biased. Not that it would not work. Vitamins can work! PERIOD.

Full disclosure: in 2007 I found a lump in my breast, my primary doctor (a former OB/GYN now in Family Practice) confirmed it and was referred to an orthopedic surgeon. He thought it was awesome I had a degree in Clinical Nutrition. Once we realized it was benign, he put me on a vitamin treatment to rid the lump based on 1 paper. OTC vitamins. No drugs....Nothing that he was selling. So he was not making money other than visit/consult fees.
I was required to check back with him every 3 months for 18 months.
It worked within a few months. The lump never came back.
PERIOD.


Doesn't mean it will work for everyone. And treatments like that in the above paper SHOULD be under the supervision of a Medical Doctor because it is a treatment plan. Heck in Florida a Health Coach or ND would be fined HEAVILY and dragged into court if someone other than a Licensed Dietitian like myself or Medical Doctor recommended a treatment plan FOR a doctor-diagnosed medical condition.

However, what is likely to happen is this patent-pending product will drop, and people with beg for it in mass quantities based on this paper and similar ones. Then accuse the CDC and FDA (who cannot approve supplements by Federal Law) of "keeping the cure." The demand for the product will go up...its investors will get rich and those with means and willing doctors will receive the treatment. Poor people, working class people will not. Same for the Hydrochloroquine, same for the ECMO treatment if you can get it, and same for the situation with Regeneron or other antibody treatments that black people seem to not have access to.
Rinse
Repeat.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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And see this is why I act the way I act. My kid had Chronic Lung Disease and survived COVID-19. Point being, nobody can predict how they will react with COVID in their body.

Right now she been having an attitude in school because the weather is changing and she has a cold (no fever, no temp, no headache, no taste issues) and the kids in school keep asking her if she has COVID. The weather is changing here..... Its ironic that she didn't even have a runny nose with COVID. But allergies are aggravating the HECK OUT OF HER.
 

Evolving78

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The fan in the window isn't new information. They said this last year I believe but definitely in January on the following page regarding ways to improve ventilation in the home.


ETA: It looks like they pulled it today saying its outdated and they will update the holiday guidance soon.

My child’s school said they are using fresh air and fans for ventilation instead of using the money they were given and saved during the lockdown to update the ventilation system…
 

yamilee21

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They’re just saying anything now lol

Not really; for example, the open windows and fan circulating air have been recommended from early on, albeit from other sources. The NY Times had an article at the beginning of the pandemic about how the seemingly strange design of New York City homes, with radiators placed directly under windows, came about during the 1918 flu pandemic, because windows were supposed to be kept open while the heat was on, to prevent airborne transmission of disease. Later on the paper had another illustrated article to show how open windows make a big difference. If transmission outdoors is less likely, opening windows is a way to bring “outdoors” inside.
 
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vevster

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Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I can't imagine carrying on any type of business or personal relationship with someone if I found out they let me think they were vaccinated and later let it slip they had a fake vax card. I'm careful because I assume everybody around me is unvaxxed even if they tell me they are but it's a whole nother thing to know somebody is actually trying to lull me into a sense of security.

Maynnnn It's go have to be Throat Punch Thursday all week.
 

yamilee21

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There’s an amusing fake vaccine card story I know about (but I cannot share my source so please don’t ask, :lol: ). One of the very fancy 50K tuition/year schools decided to require vaccines for students 12 and up. Some parents tried to be slick about it, and bought fake vaccine cards for their kids. Except they weren’t slick enough, and bought *Moderna* cards instead of Pfizer cards. :look: If you can spend 50K on your child’s tuition, you ought to be able to buy the correct fake vaccine card for them too. :lachen:
 

Black Ambrosia

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There’s an amusing fake vaccine card story I know about (but I cannot share my source so please don’t ask, :lol: ). One of the very fancy 50K tuition/year schools decided to require vaccines for students 12 and up. Some parents tried to be slick about it, and bought fake vaccine cards for their kids. Except they weren’t slick enough, and bought *Moderna* cards instead of Pfizer cards. :look: If you can spend 50K on your child’s tuition, you ought to be able to buy the correct fake vaccine card for them too. :lachen:
These people are obviously too stupid for scheming. They should never consider a life of crime.
 
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