The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

Peppermynt

Defying Gravity
Just read this on apple news - folks are crazy. So disappointed in Americans.

Iowa man convicted of assault over mask fight sentenced to 10 years


The man is accused of gouging the victim's eye, kneeing him in the genitals and spitting and coughing on him, saying, "If I have it, you have it."

An Iowa man convicted of assaulting a man who told him to pull his mask up last year was sentenced Wednesday to 10 years in prison, according to a court representative.
Shane Michael, 42, was convicted last month to willful injury causing serious injury — a Class C forcible felony, according to court records — which has a mandatory 10-year prison term.
Jodi Heims, a records supervisor with the Polk County Clerk of Court Office confirmed that he was sentenced last week to 10 years in prison.
Michael was arrested on Nov. 11 following the altercation at an eyeglass store in Des Moines, according to a police report.
The victim, Mark Dinning, told Des Moines police that he told Michael as he was in the store that his mask was low on his face, the report said. Dinning, 60, said Michael got angry, and the two had a verbal argument.
When Dinning left the store, Michael followed him, cornered him outside and started to assault him, Dinning told police. Michael gouged Dinning's eye, kneed him in the genitals where he had recently had surgery and spit and coughed on him, saying, "If I have it, you have it."
Dinning said he bit Michael to try to stop the assault.
Michael told police that he was acting in self defense after Dinning "shoulder-checked" him when the two left the store, the police report said. Michael said Dinning had also "jabbed his thumb in his stomach."
But two witnesses said Michael started the physical confrontation. One recounted that Michael followed Dinning into the parking lot, cornered him and assaulted him, the police report said. There were no cameras in the parking lot.
Michael was charged with assault causing serious injury, according to court records. He was offered a plea deal that would have had him plead to willful injury causing bodily injury, a Class D felony, the Iowa Capital Dispatch reported. But Michael rejected the offer and opted to take his case to a jury.
Michael's attorney did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
I have nothing to say to anyone who makes a snide remark about me still wearing a mask. If they're crazy enough to do that they may be crazy enough to shoot you like that fool who shot the cashier just the other day.

Folks be getting
their knickers
in a bunch over
what people not
do
with their own
lives and bodies.
:wallbash:

My response to
people who ask
why I am still
wearing my mask,
as if they just
crawled out from
under a rock and
missed the whole
pandemic era,
is "Because I look
so darn cute in it". :gorgeous:
 
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yamilee21

Well-Known Member
Why do people care whether others choose to wear a mask? They need to mind their business. :mad:
Apparently, those of us who wear masks are all operatives working on the secret plot to bring about “Communism” in the U.S. Those who care are the patriots rooting us out and trying to convert us back to capitalistic “liberty” before it is too late… at least according to the former friend I had to downgrade to “avoidable acquaintance.”
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
Apparently, those of us who wear masks are all operatives working on the secret plot to bring about “Communism” in the U.S. Those who care are the patriots rooting us out and trying to convert us back to capitalistic “liberty” before it is too late… at least according to the former friend I had to downgrade to “avoidable acquaintance.”
They can't accept the fact that people don't trust other folk hygiene.

Never mind the fact that many of us NOW are wishing masks were en vogue years ago. I promise I wish I would have thought of that a while back. How did we go on trusting everybody breath and hygiene. Its really been hard for black folk culturally. Cause I really wish I could Dettol 1/2 these folks in the street.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
^^^ It's called "Collective Crazy." So many people have absolutely lost all sense of sensibility and rationality since the rise of Donald Trump.
Folks used to hide foolish behavior, but now they don't care who is witness to it and who they target with their "crazy."
This is what I’m trying to wrap my brain around. Like when did “showing your crazy” become a thing?
 

TrulyBlessed

Well-Known Member

A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but a vaccinated employee wasn't infected​

(CNN) — Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19 outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.

Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.

The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.

"The clinical presentation gives me concern that we're dealing with a very infectious variant that is quite deadly," Hopes told Burnett.

The government building was closed on Friday as a precaution. It reopened Monday but officials didn't implement a mask requirement, instead keeping them optional.

Hopes said he's encouraging workers who aren't vaccinated to wear a mask and the county is making them available to employees and visitors.

"Clearly masks work, but the vaccine is more important at this point," Hopes said.
Manatee County will offer a Covid-19 vaccine clinic for employees at the administration building on Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/florida-manatee-county-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html
 

Melaninme

Well-Known Member

Almost 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19​



Coronavirus
David Aaro
Tue, June 22, 2021, 1:23 AM·2 min read


In this article:


Coronavirus


Nearly 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19, according to recent data from the state Department of Public Health.
The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
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"We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration," said Boston University infectious diseases specialist Davidson Hamer, according to the Boston Herald. "The viral load is not very high."
"Breakthroughs are expected, and we need to better understand who’s at risk and whether people who have a breakthrough can transmit the virus to others," he continued. "In some cases, they’ll be shedding such low levels of the virus and won’t be transmitting to others."
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, large-scale clinical studies have found that COVID-19 vaccination prevented most people from getting the virus. Still, no vaccine is 100% effective at preventing the disease and there will be "a small percentage of fully vaccinated people who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19," the agency said.
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A recent study from the CDC showed that Pfizer and Moderna are about 90% effective against infection two weeks after the last dose has passed. The one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine is about 72% effective against moderate to severe disease, according to U.S. trials.
"Testing to identify current infection remains critical to control of COVID-19," a DPH spokeswoman told the paper. "People with current infection can spread the virus to others and isolation of cases and identification of close contacts (individuals who may have been exposed) is a foundation of public health response."
Health officials also warned about the contagious Delta variant, seen in areas in the U.S.
Todd Ellerin, director of infectious diseases at South Shore Health, expressed the need to get as many people vaccinated due to the highly contagious variants.

He made the plea as new virus cases were at record lows in the state last week amid the vaccine rollout.
As of Monday, more than 150 million people in the U.S. have been fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.
 

Melaninme

Well-Known Member
Was there some mass exposure event? It seems odd that 4,000 vaccinated people would even get tested to find out they’re positive. Statistically speaking most of them would’ve been asymptomatic.
I don't believe that it was a mass exposure event. I"m thinking this finding of breakthrough cases is among the entire state. Like if you were vaccinated then showed signs/symptoms then decided to get tested to see what was up. After your diagnosis was confirmed as covid-19, your case was reported by the DPH and counted among other breakthrough cases reported/discovered throughout the entire state.
 
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vevster

Well-Known Member
I don't believe that it was a mass exposure event. I"m thinking this finding of breakthrough cases is among the entire state. Like if you were vaccinated then showed signs/symptoms then decided to get tested to see what was up. After your diagnosis was confirmed as covid-19, your case was reported by the DPH and counted among other breakthrough cases reported/discovered throughout the entire state.
I would like to know this number by state.
 

yamilee21

Well-Known Member
NYC and Massachusetts have similarly sized populations, and a similar number of fully vaccinated persons. In NYC, roughly 4.1 million have fully vaccinated, and there have been about 4400 breakthrough infections among the fully vaccinated, among approximately 841,000 cumulative cases. So 0.5% of the cases have occurred in fully vaccinated persons. That is about the same for Massachusetts; 3800 cases out of 710,000 is about 0.5%. If the vaccines are 72-95% effective, we would expect that the number of “breakthrough” cases to increase and eventually represent quite a bit more than 0.5% of cases. The more important factor is that the number of cases with symptoms severe enough to cause hospitalizations and deaths remain very low, which they are. The overwhelming majority of the cases are still occurring among unvaccinated people, as are the severe illnesses and deaths.
 

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member

A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but a vaccinated employee wasn't infected​

(CNN) — Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19 outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.

Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.

The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.

"The clinical presentation gives me concern that we're dealing with a very infectious variant that is quite deadly," Hopes told Burnett.

The government building was closed on Friday as a precaution. It reopened Monday but officials didn't implement a mask requirement, instead keeping them optional.

Hopes said he's encouraging workers who aren't vaccinated to wear a mask and the county is making them available to employees and visitors.

"Clearly masks work, but the vaccine is more important at this point," Hopes said.
Manatee County will offer a Covid-19 vaccine clinic for employees at the administration building on Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/florida-manatee-county-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html


Her Mother Died of COVID—
but That Won’t Convince Her to Get Vaccinated

The daughter of an unvaccinated county employee in Florida who died after COVID-19 swept through the government office building where she worked says she and her family are steadfast in refusing their shots, even though their mother’s inoculated coworkers did not get sick at all.
“No one in my family will be getting the vaccine,” Molly Hart told The Daily Beast.

Hart’s mom, 58-year-old Mary Knight, passed away last week from complications related to COVID-19, Manatee County authorities announced. An IT customer service supervisor, Knight had worked for the county on and off for 15 years. None of their vaccinated coworkers were affected at all, County Administrator Dr. Scott Hopes said in a statement.

Hart also doesn’t believe that COVID was really responsible for killing her mom.

“She was always a busy worker bee,” Hart said. “She didn’t know how to rest and gave her all to everything she did. Stress killed her, not COVID. A healthy body and immune system [do] not need the vaccine.” (This is false, according to public health experts.)

Knight had been dealing with a lot over the past four months, explained Hart: A difficult boss at work, helping to care for her granddaughter while Hart’s husband was on military leave, looking after her youngest son after he was badly injured in an accident, the death of her father, and a painful dispute with her father’s widow over his estate. Knight returned to work on June 1 and immediately got COVID, Hart continued.

"She was already so worn down from life that her immune system was so weak and it couldn’t fight off COVID like it needed to,” insisted Hart, a physical therapist in Bradenton.

Hart said Knight had been recovering well and that her death “made no sense at all.” “It was a freak thing that she died,” she said. “She died the exact same day as my father, who passed one year ago exactly. His depression spiraled out of control due to the forced lockdown.” (The national suicide rate actually decreased last year, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.)
 
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HappyAtLast

Simplicity & Peacefulness
Her Mother Died of COVID—
but That Won’t Convince Her to Get Vaccinated

The daughter of an unvaccinated county employee in Florida who died after COVID-19 swept through the government office building where she worked says she and her family are steadfast in refusing their shots, even though their mother’s inoculated coworkers did not get sick at all.
“No one in my family will be getting the vaccine,” Molly Hart told The Daily Beast.

Hart’s mom, 58-year-old Mary Knight, passed away last week from complications related to COVID-19, Manatee County authorities announced. An IT customer service supervisor, Knight had worked for the county on and off for 15 years. None of their vaccinated coworkers were affected at all, County Administrator Dr. Scott Hopes said in a statement.

Hart also doesn’t believe that COVID was really responsible for killing her mom.

“She was always a busy worker bee,” Hart said. “She didn’t know how to rest and gave her all to everything she did. Stress killed her, not COVID. A healthy body and immune system [do] not need the vaccine.” (This is false, according to public health experts.)

Knight had been dealing with a lot over the past four months, explained Hart: A difficult boss at work, helping to care for her granddaughter while Hart’s husband was on military leave, looking after her youngest son after he was badly injured in an accident, the death of her father, and a painful dispute with her father’s widow over his estate. Knight returned to work on June 1 and immediately got COVID, Hart continued.

"She was already so worn down from life that her immune system was so weak and it couldn’t fight off COVID like it needed to,” insisted Hart, a physical therapist in Bradenton.

Hart said Knight had been recovering well and that her death “made no sense at all.” “It was a freak thing that she died,” she said. “She died the exact same day as my father, who passed one year ago exactly. His depression spiraled out of control due to the forced lockdown.” (The national suicide rate actually decreased last year, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.)
:rolleyes: Yeah, okay. I guess the children who died of Covid actually died of stress too. ...and she was so stressed that you decided to dump your daughter on her too. Whatever woman!
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
NYC and Massachusetts have similarly sized populations, and a similar number of fully vaccinated persons. In NYC, roughly 4.1 million have fully vaccinated, and there have been about 4400 breakthrough infections among the fully vaccinated, among approximately 841,000 cumulative cases. So 0.5% of the cases have occurred in fully vaccinated persons. That is about the same for Massachusetts; 3800 cases out of 710,000 is about 0.5%. If the vaccines are 72-95% effective, we would expect that the number of “breakthrough” cases to increase and eventually represent quite a bit more than 0.5% of cases. The more important factor is that the number of cases with symptoms severe enough to cause hospitalizations and deaths remain very low, which they are. The overwhelming majority of the cases are still occurring among unvaccinated people, as are the severe illnesses and deaths.
Of course add confounding factors:
Were people covid positive when they got the vaccine already? Is it a variant? So many things here. Just a perfct storm of mess.

More importantly, this is why the mask recommendations are a complete MESS.

Knowing vaccines aren't a CURE
Knowing we have a WHOLE pandemic going on STILL
Knowing vaccines are NOT 100% effective.....

Masks are still needed.

The biggest takeaway from this outbreak is that we still need to mask up and socially distance.
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
Sigh-

Ya'll know I spoke to my numbers guy again (see my posts in the first few pages). He pretty much predicted everything that's been going on with respect to food and gas shortages, deaths, and surges.

He and I had a discussion about our county economic situation lined up with when black women are moving to a healthy weight, and having heathy weight babies. He basically showed the stats that proved when we had 2 recessions, BW fell into a unhealthy weight category and started having low birth weight babies the following year. He showed when stimulus and aid was provided, birth weights improved. He showed me today that white and black women are both now having an increase in low birth weight babies--something I was seeing in full term deliveries since having my own in 2018---OR they naturally have been going into labor and delivering 4-5 weeks early--causing low birth weight. Its happening in the capital city (since De-Satan arrived in 2019), while the rest of Florida is improving....but I digress. He meets with commissioners regularly and he has their ear. He asked me to present and provide expertise on what this means on a ground level.--But I digress

He wants me to get ready for what he is calling COVID-21. He believes the Delta Variant will cause a surge because its acting out vs the other variants that the vaccine is protecting against. The current vaccine is protecting against the delta variant but its moving among the unvaccinated too darn fast---I am not sure if its responsible for break through infections among the vaccinated. But he and I (with the above data) are now tracking the birth rates and healthy weights (which suggest access to healthy food and the change in access and availability) and will be waiting for the info to drop for 2020 birth rates. We are looking at pre-COVID-19 stats, so we can present a case of how it was already bad for blacks, and that the pandemic blew the bottom out.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
California reopened on the 15th but didn't get guidelines until the 17th and the HR lawyers didn't come back with clarifications until 20 minutes ago so I'll be sending out self attestation forms tomorrow. Masks are optional for vaccinated employees. Unvaccinated employees and people who don't want to fill out the form have to keep wearing masks. I'm wearing a mask until at least 2022.
 
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