The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

oneastrocurlie

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I’m planning on it as soon as I get out of this appointment. I need y’all’s help. Can someone point me to the link that shows that Moderna and Pfizer are now fully approved by FDA for adults? I KNOW they were approved but she gave him an informed consent that says it’s still under emergency use. I know parts of it like third booster mix and match, etc. are still EUA but am I losing my mind?! :censored:


Moderna is still under EUA
 

Everything Zen

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The immunization period was almost over when I got out of the salon but she told him it wouldn’t be fully approved until some time in 2023. This women is full of feces coming up with a timeline like that. She made this man question his own judgment. Even though I’m fully vaccinated, I’m going in tomorrow to ask for a Moderna vaccine (he gave me her description- white woman; thankfully the other lady was Asian and their photos are on the wall) and find out what’s going on.
 

Iwanthealthyhair67

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The immunization period was almost over when I got out of the salon but she told him it wouldn’t be fully approved until some time in 2023. This women is full of feces coming up with a timeline like that. She made this man question his own judgment. Even though I’m fully vaccinated, I’m going in tomorrow to ask for a Moderna vaccine (he gave me her description- white woman; thankfully the other lady was Asian and their photos are on the wall) and find out what’s going on.
Please keep us posted.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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The immunization period was almost over when I got out of the salon but she told him it wouldn’t be fully approved until some time in 2023. This women is full of feces coming up with a timeline like that. She made this man question his own judgment. Even though I’m fully vaccinated, I’m going in tomorrow to ask for a Moderna vaccine (he gave me her description- white woman; thankfully the other lady was Asian and their photos are on the wall) and find out what’s going on.
Keep us posted.
You can report her to WalMart corporate office and the people who license Pharmacists in your state. One thing I *DO* like about FL---Medical and Health practice is regulated up to the eyeballs and if there is a complaint against your license its posted (not the details of it) for everyone to see....that you have complaints.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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I hope you're not posting this as some kind of "good thing."

Cause this is stupid and so is he.
Our Surgeon General (The black doctor to his right) is a puppet who refused to wear a mask when visiting the office of a senator who is CURRENTLY recovering from Breast Cancer. He didn't have the temerity, public health concern, nor was he gentleman enough to wear a mask for this woman. This guy is the handpicked leader of everything public health in this state.
And now he is asking businesses to pay for adverse reactions if they mandate the trumpvaccine? How ironic.

The same guy who is pushing for a GOP audit in our state...the state trump actually WON hands down. The point of the audit is to sow the seeds of destruction, confusion and chaos. (and its working because GOP and Dem-leaning county elections supervisors are scared and refusing to run for their offices in the next election. Which will open things up for a GOP takeover in elections big and small). Nothing this man says is good. At all.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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If you really knew how he is using THIS pandemic to push another agenda. Smoke and Mirrors.

He will WIN and all the stuff he is proposing will come to pass. So that will make you very happy.

But he will then win his re-election, while continuing to cause real harm to POC, women, children and babies. And that will NOT make you happy. But you win the former...so yay. This man is a snake. A smart one too. There are so many people just like you willing to throw away so much for this.

Edited to add: Its nothing wrong with protecting business interests. Saving people from losing employment due to a personal or religious belief. Its his job. Its just he is using a truly altruistic reason for personal and political reasons that will hurt more Floridians than it will help. He is giving a small percentage of people what they want while just ignoring the rest of us....especially the people who have given their lives and hearts to study this stuff. If no one can see that, then just pray for us. We are in trouble under this governor.
 
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Melaninme

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If you really knew how he is using THIS pandemic to push another agenda. Smoke and Mirrors.

He will WIN and all the stuff he is proposing will come to pass. So that will make you very happy.

But he will then win his re-election, while continuing to cause real harm to POC, women, children and babies. And that will NOT make you happy. But you win the former...so yay. This man is a snake. A smart one too. There are so many people just like you willing to throw away so much for this.
Wow.....
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Like...there are black people high fiving governor abbot in Texas for banning vaccine mandates, while women in that state are living in those conditions where the same Gov is policing their uterus. Like BLACK women are high-fiving this Gov who has been trying to overturn their vote. Gov. Abbot will have women pushed back into the 50's but they love him because despite himself being vaccinated and protected....he is preventing mandates.


And this is why I want someone to just slingshot me to mars.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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I think they all are. Why aren’t the companies leasing or giving the recipe to other countries? Cuz it’sa money grab.

For decades ALL companies go for free federal money. GOP leaning companies had their hand out when Trump boldly told the entire US in 2018 that he was gonna do a tax deal for the top 1%. He claimed it will trickle down to the employees. The CEOs told journalists they had no intention of trickling anything down and will pay their shareholders. He was warned by conservative AND left leaning economist groups that the tax deal will increase the debt. The same debt that Mitch McConnell refuses to increase the debt ceiling to "resolve" the issue. The same Mitch McConnell who signed off and voted for the tax break. Its a circle jerk.
Point is, you're a fool to refuse free Federal money if you can easily fill a need. Whether you are a company contracted to quickly fill the need for masks, PPE, steel, commodity crops, or a vaccine for a not so new virus that you've been working on for the last 10 years.

Its not FREE to mass produce it...its not free to develop it. You still have to pay the scientists and humans involved to work on it day and night, and individuals cannot carry the cost to get one, even through insurance in a way that's affordable. Which is why vaccines needed to travel are not cheap.....So of COURSE, the Federal government will pick up the cost to produce, while saavy investors (I wish I had the money to invest in ANYTHING, and I would have bought stock in the vaccine as well coz business is business) will reap the rewards of how the stock market works. This is a money grab but so is anything else for anyone who can quickly fill a need. Trust me, rich folk invested in PPE as well and reaped rewards. Vaccines, medications, or even new tech are no different.
 

Kanky

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Like...there are black people high fiving governor abbot in Texas for banning vaccine mandates, while women in that state are living in those conditions where the same Gov is policing their uterus. Like BLACK women are high-fiving this Gov who has been trying to overturn their vote. Gov. Abbot will have women pushed back into the 50's but they love him because despite himself being vaccinated and protected....he is preventing mandates.


And this is why I want someone to just slingshot me to mars.
A lot of voters are gullible, single issue types who can’t see the big picture. High fiving the folks whose policies are literally killing them and their babies like fools.

 

Kanky

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naturalgyrl5199

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Weekly Covid testing is an option under the mandate. These companies don’t want to pay for that because it is easier in “at will” and “right to work” states to just fire people.
Exactly. COVID testing makes sense. Then you can rally to work from home if you are healthy enough, and can still earn a wage...but you know these companies ain't trying to hear that. But they gonna learn.

People swear the Great Resignation is all about not wanting work-related vaccine mandates. Its not.
A lot of voters are gullible, single issue types who can’t see the big picture. High fiving the folks whose policies are literally killing them and their babies like fools.

That article was hard to read.
I had to have a spinal block to get a cerclage when I was 13 weeks pregnant in 2017. Took that arrogant Indian Anesthesiologist 2 tries before he had to begrudgingly call in and older white colleague. I hated the feeling. Then in post op he goes "oh see now, wasn't that great, you will opt for the epidural now!" I told him Hell No I would never. I had pain in my back for weeks and 3 small holes in my back cause he was incompetent. He could have had me paralyzed. I sure did have birth in early 2018 with no epidural. I made sure my doula and my OB knew they better not even offer me one. I would rather bite on a stick and bear down. There was no way I was gonna let these fools play with my spine ever again.

And yes, when it comes to black women and childrearing, even many black women Do not GAF. Trading one win for the wins that matter.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Yeah and this morning's paper is all about us having reduced FDNY(20%), Sanitation (rats!) and NYPD due to this overreach of a mandate.
Let me go fill out my change to be an independent. The Democrats are out of order.
Hopefully your state is not like my trash one--where independents cannot vote in primaries and certain local elections. Its like a penalty to be one in Fl.
 
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Kanky

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Yeah and this morning's paper is all about us having reduced FDNY(20%), Sanitation (rats!) and NYPD due to this overreach of a mandate.
Let me go fill out my change to be an independent. The Democrats are out of order.
Weren’t you an independent/Green party voter before this anyway, or have I confused you with someone else?
 

Black Ambrosia

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Do I Have Plans This Saturday? I’ve, Uh, Been Exposed.

Feeling overwhelmed at the prospect of socializing, some are going with a lie very few will argue with: Covid exposure.​


Last winter Trysta Barwig was burned out.

She was overwhelmed by her job as a program manager and she was traveling too often for work from her home in Atlanta. She needed a break. So when Ms. Barwig’s boss asked her to pack her bags again, she used what had become her go-to excuse: a Covid exposure.

“I figured this would be easier to tell my boss than having to answer a million follow-up questions of why I couldn’t go,” said Ms. Barwig, 31, who is also the founder of a travel blog This Travel Dream. “He was very supportive and excused me from traveling for work.”

Problem solved.

As Halloween and other holidays lurk around the corner, plans are picking up in some parts of the world. And so too is social anxiety, at least among those who are naturally introverted or who might be feeling a little rusty after about a year and a half of restricted interactions.

Some people have started lying about Covid exposure, figuring it’s the one way out of plans —from work to dates to dental appointments — that few will argue with. Others have been using the lie all along.

Of course, actual exposure to Covid is no joke, and lying about it is a luxury that many people, including huge numbers of essential workers who risked their health over the course of the pandemic, don’t have.

Dr. Larry Burchett, an emergency room doctor and family physician in Berkeley, Calif., said that those who are unvaccinated and are actually exposed to someone who has tested positive for Covid should quarantine for 14 days even without symptoms. Vaccinated individuals who have been in contact (within six feet of someone for at least 15 minutes) with someone who has Covid don’t need to quarantine unless they have symptoms, but they should get tested five to seven days after exposure, Dr. Burchett said, in accordance with C.D.C. guidelines.

But even permission from the C.D.C. to skip quarantine if you’re vaccinated and not showing symptoms doesn’t stop some from deploying the lie.

Back in March, before many people were vaccinated, John Junior thought he had met the perfect woman online. Mr. Junior, a mental health activist from Cheshire, England, chatted with her online for two months before arranging to meet in person. He bought movie tickets and made reservations at a bowling alley, only to get the dreaded Covid excuse on the day of their date.

“She messaged saying her uncle dropped some presents off a few nights ago, and he said he has symptoms of Covid,” said Mr. Junior, 33. “She said to me she can’t leave the house in case she has Covid.”

Mr. Junior was skeptical of her story, so she upped the ante, telling him she had actually tested positive. She sent him a photo of the test over Snapchat, he said, with a black marker clearly used to create a positive result. It’s the third time Mr. Junior had a date cancel because of alleged Covid exposure, he said.
Sara Bernier, the founder of Born for Pets, a blog providing pet care tips, has been on the other side of the equation. Last year, she met someone online and had plans to meet him, until he started sending suggestive messages the day before their date.

“Since I have a difficult time saying something as simple as ‘no,’ I made an elaborate story about getting Covid, and how it would be impossible for me to show up,” said Ms. Bernier, who is 29 and lives in New York.

Therapists aren’t surprised that Covid exposure has become such a convenient — yet also horrific — excuse for our times.

“For people who want to avoid doing something, whether due to anxiety, existential dread or the idea that it would be easier to stay in and watch ‘Squid Game’ than get dressed and go out into the world, the Covid excuse seems tailor-made: It’s timely, prominent and appears driven by an altruistic concern for your friends, co-workers or strangers’ health,” said Suraji Wagage, the co-founder and director of the Center for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in California.
“It’s difficult for the receiving party to react negatively without seeming like they don’t care about others’ health or the spread of the global pandemic,” she said.

Bonus: The excuse can be recycled without necessarily arousing suspicion, as you can potentially be exposed to Covid repeatedly and at any time, Ms. Wagage added.

But it’s precisely because this excuse is so good that it poses its own risks, she said. By spending so long leaving the house sparingly, if at all, we’ve conditioned ourselves into limited socialization. As a result, it’s more difficult to do what seemed ordinary before, such as meeting friends for dinner or even going to work in an office.

That’s been the case for Daniela Sawyer, the founder and business development strategist for FindPeopleFast, a web-based background search site. She loved the antisocial lockdown period in New York, so she continued it post-lockdown by telling everyone over and over again she had come in contact with someone with Covid.

“This excuse seemed so natural, that they couldn’t deny it at all,” said Ms. Sawyer, 32.

Using the exposure excuse is simple and almost addictive in its ease of acceptance, but it could land you in jail.

After William Carter, a Dallas firefighter, allegedly lied about having Covid so he could skip work to go on vacation in March 2021, he was arrested and charged with felony theft (he was paid more than $12,000 for the time he was on vacation). He is on paid administrative leave while under investigation, according to the city of Dallas.

In July, Santwon Davis of Atlanta was sentenced to three years in prison and ordered to pay $187,550 to his employer for wire fraud related to a scheme to defraud his employer when he requested and received paid time off from work for what he claimed was a positive Covid-19 test.

Mr. Davis was accused of submitting a fake medical record to his employer, a Fortune 500 company, which shut down the facility in which he worked for cleaning, and paid all the employees during the shutdown. (Investigators also uncovered that in 2019 Mr. Davis faked the death of a child — one who did not exist — by creating and submitting false documentation to the same employer to support a claim for bereavement leave.)

But those are extreme situations. When someone pulls the exposure card to get out of a date or even a wedding, is it so different from using your kids as an excuse not to go, well, basically anywhere you don’t feel like going?

Jamie Hickey, a human resources specialist at Coffee Semantics in Philadelphia, said he and his wife were supposed to attend two weddings within a 10-day period this past June. They really didn’t want to go, but couldn’t think of anything that would get them out of both events with one swift lie.

“So we told them that I had a close encounter with someone that has since tested positive for Covid, and I had tested positive but was not having any bad symptoms,” Mr. Hickey, 42, said. “We told them we didn’t want to come to a large event and possibly pass along the virus to anyone else.”

The lie worked a little too well, and the couple was inundated with phone calls, texts and emails from dozens of people making sure the Hickeys’ were OK. Did they need soup? Medical care? Assistance of any kind? Covid is, after all, no joke.

Finally, Mr. Hickey admitted that they lied, which led to many lectures about his lack of morality.

“In the end,” he said, “it may have been easier to just go to the weddings and drink for free.”
 
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