The Man Who's Had Two Sex Changes

yardyspice

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The man who's had TWO sex changes: Incredible story of Walt, who became Laura, then REVERSED the operation because he believes surgeons in US and Europe are too quick to operate
  • Walt Heyer had sex change to become a woman when he was 42 years old
  • After eight years living as Laura Jensen, he reverted back to being a man
  • He believes the desire to change gender stems from psychological trauma
  • Heyer controversially disputes that Gender Dysphoria is a genetic disorder
  • Now 74, he acts as a counselor to those considering a sex change surgery
  • Psychological vetting of patients before operation is inadequate, he claims
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At 42-years-old, Walt Heyer was, by all accounts, a happily married man with two children.

But it was then he decided to undergo gender reassignment surgery to become a woman - a decision he would later say had a 'tremendous, destructive process' on his life. He reverted back to being a man just eight years later.

Now, at 74, Walt, from Los Angeles, tells MailOnline he should never have been allowed to have the sex change in the first place.

And he claims hundreds of others are making the same mistake because surgeons are not properly evaluating their motives to change gender.

He was delighted at being a female at first, having felt trapped in the wrong body since he was five years old.

But the Californian said these feelings of elation soon gave way to much darker feelings: 'Immediately after the procedure, you're in a state of euphoria because you battle it for so long.

'You think this is wonderful and fabulous and you think your life's going to be good and then as time goes on, there's this funny little thing that happens in life. It's called reality.'

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Sex change: Walt is pictured here in 1984, one year after he underwent surgery to become 'Laura Jensen'



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Reversal: This is Walt in 2007, following his decision to revert back to being a man - eight years after his initial surgery

Walt's genitals were removed as part of the transformation. He also received breast implants, treatment to reduce the hair on his face, and a course of estrogen hormones for as long as he remained a woman.

While dealing with the difficult physical transition, which he describes as a 'battle', he also faced cruel discrimination in his professional life.

He said: 'I ended up for a long time unemployed and trying to figure out what to do.

'I went to over 200 interviews before I got a job, because people don't really want a transgender person – they don't want to hire them, so it took a long time.'

In the mid-1980s, Walt says he came to the realisation that his desire to change genders came from deep-rooted childhood trauma - rather than a genetic disorder. But with no safe reversal procedures at the time, it was already too late.

It is accepted that people like Walt, who believe they were born inside the wrong body, suffer from Gender Dysphoria.

The condition was once believed to be psychiatric, but is now recognised as a medical condition by bodies such as the NHS. Recent studies suggest that it is a biological disorder caused by hormonal imbalances before a baby is born. The NHS does not class it as a mental illness.

Walt, however, claims that his gender confusion was caused simply by his environment and family relationships.

It is a controversial viewpoint, and one that will upset many. But the 74-year-old is adamant that he should never been allowed to go through with the procedure. Experts have told MailOnline that the procedures in Britain are robust - and that gender dysphoria must be diagnosed by at least two specialists before procedures are carried out.

But Walt now says: 'Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition where you are dissatisfied with your gender.

Most provocatively, he adds: 'Nobody's ever born a transgender. They're manufactured as a result of something, a developmental childhood issue that has yet to be determined for many people.

'In retrospect, I can see that changing genders, quite frankly is just pure foolishness.'



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Happy life: Walt was a happily married man at 42, and with two children, when he decided to undergo a sex change



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Elation: He told MailOnline: 'Immediately after the procedure, you're in a state of euphoria because you battle it for so long'





Growing up in Los Angeles, Walt had a tough but bearable start in life with a strict mother, a part-time policeman father - living in the shadow of a 'brainiac' brother.

When he was five, everything changed.

'It was then my grandmother, when I was being babysat by her, started dressing me in female clothing. She even made me a purple chiffon evening dress,' he said.

'And when dad found out what grandma had been doing, and dressing me up like a girl, it did change everything.

'My daughter was very, very upset. And my son said it would be easier if you were to die, because then at least I could talk to people about what you were going through.'
Walt Heyer
'His adopted brother Fred began to sexually molest me. Mom's discipline got even more severe and I would learn much later in life that on one occasion, her discipline was so tough, she thought she had almost killed me.'

The treatment he suffered from those entrusted to protect him made him feel like he was 'a girl trapped in a male's body', he said, and he became reclusive because of it.

37 years later, he would finally take the drastic step to become a woman - and he lived for eight years as Laura Jensen.

He had divorced his wife three months before the surgery because he did not want to put someone else 'through that difficult time'.

The relationship with his ex-wife remained civil but his daughter, 15 at the time, and son, 12, were less understanding.

Walt said: 'My daughter was very, very upset. And my son said it would be easier if you were to die, because then at least I could talk to people about what you were going through.

'When a father does that, you're betraying your children and what came to my mind later on was I saw myself as much more important than my kids.

'That is probably the most self-centred, narcissistic thing a person can do – it's just nonsense to place yourself over a couple of kids, who needed someone to be there for them.'




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Psychological issues: Walt (pictured as a child)believes his desire to change genders stemmed from early emotional trauma



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Childhood trauma: Among other hardships Walt (centre) suffered, he was sexually abused by his uncle



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Evaluation: Walt - pictured here on his wedding day in 1962 - believes patients are not vetted thoroughly enough before sex change surgery

He was optimistic at first, having finally realised the dream he had been nurturing as an escape since childhood.

As Laura Jensen, he eventually landed a well-paying job working for the US government at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

It wasn't until he began studying psychology at the University of California Santa Cruz that he said he came to the self-realisation that being transgender was a 'psychological disorder' - and he'd made a huge mistake.

'All they do is pump people full of hormones, put in breast implants and declare that they've manufactured a female. It's biologically impossible to make a man into a woman.'

He said: 'Once I studied psychology, I realised that it is impossible to biologically transform someone from one gender to the other, and that's the moment you realise that it's psychological condition, and not medical.

'All they do is pump people full of hormones, put in breast implants and declare that they've manufactured a female. It's biologically impossible to make a man into a woman.'

After eight years of living as Laura Jensen in San Francisco, he had would receive another operation to revert to his 'birth gender'.

So after eight years, £20,000 and untold damage to his health and relationships, he once again became Walt Heyer.

Now, through his website 'Sex Change Regret', he acts as an unofficial counselor to those considering the same procedure.

And after many emotional discussions, he has finally rekindled his relationships with his children, who now call him 'their hero'.

He said: 'I met with each one of them, and told them how sorry I was that I didn't make them the focus of my life - and I focused on some gender difficulties that I was having.

'This all happened after I realised what a horrible mistake I'd made and so the relationship took its time to heal, but now it's fine.'



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Transition: After eight years, £20,000 and untold damage to his health and relationships, 'Laura Jensen' once again became Walt Heyer (pictured)



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Returning the favour: Walt (pictured) now runs a website where he acts as an informal counselor to those thinking about getting a sex change

GENDER DYSPHORIA EXPLAINED
Gender dysphoria is a condition where a person experiences discomfort or distress because there is a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity.

Biological sex is assigned at birth, depending on the appearance of the genitals. Gender identity is the gender that a person 'identifies' with or feels themselves to be.

While biological sex and gender identity are the same for most people, this is not the case for everyone. For example, some people may have the anatomy of a man, but identify themselves as a woman, while others may not feel they are definitively either male or female.

This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It is not a mental illness.

The condition is also sometimes known as gender identity disorder (GID), gender incongruence or transgenderism.

Some people with gender dysphoria have a strong and persistent desire to live according to their gender identity, rather than their biological sex. These people are sometimes called transsexual or trans people. Some trans people have treatment to make their physical appearance more consistent with their gender identity.

Gender dysphoria is not the same as transvestism or cross-dressing and is not related to sexual orientation. People with the condition may identify as straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual or asexual, and this may change with treatment.

Source: NHS Choices

Walt says hundreds of people contact him for advice prior to having a sex change, and on how to deal with their regret afterwards.

He claims that every single one of them can trace their need to change back to a childhood issue, and better psychological evaluation would discover that - saving them both money and heartache.

Walt himself says he suffers from dissociative disorder, which disrupts his memories and sense of self-identity. Mental health charity Mind says dissociative disorders disrupt 'your sense of reality and who you are'.

It can be considered an involuntary defence-mechanism to shield the victim from some kind of psychological trauma.

However, he believes many pre-operative patients need greater help with mental health issues before they take the decision to go ahead. He said: 'There's a huge element of trust that all of the pre-surgical transgender people place in the hands of the clinicians.

'They make them go through counselling, but it's more of what I would frankly refer to as a rubber stamp because they're looking to approve them.

'All of them have some level of depression, and we're not treating them – we're just cutting off body parts and giving them a new name and a new gender.

'Biologically, no one can transport to the other gender, it's not even possible. Because they use a guy's penis and just invert it, the guy hasn't lost it, it's just going the wrong way.'

Walt claimed the regret can be so severe that post-operative patients end up self harming, and even committing suicide.

The Gender Identity Research and Education Society (GIRES) makes it clear that gender dysphoria is a condition that needs to be taken more seriously.

Trustee Terry Reed told MailOnline: 'Studies have been done to show it is not something that’s related to abuse or anything else in childhood.

'Children under school age, for instance, change their gender role and are absolutely adamant about who they are.

'There are many studies that show that biological factors, especially hormonal and genetic, impact on the neurobiology of the brain and are crucially important in the development of gender identities.'

'It would completely wrong to say there is insufficient screening beforehand - you could make an equally plausible argument that there is too much screening beforehand.'

Christella Antoni, gender expert and speech therapist based at the Gender Identity Clinic in west London, said: 'In the health service in Britain, patients' most common complaint is that they are actually made to wait too long.

'There are very stringent procedures in place to make sure people are actually suffering from gender dysphoria and really need the operation.

'In a handful of cases people choose to 'detransition' [reverse the operation] at a later stage, but this is quite rare, and it is more likely to happen when patients have funded their operation privately and perhaps not been honest about how long they have been living as a woman or a man.

'But the procedure before an operation is very strict. You need to have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, then a second opinion.

'And then in many cases you are referred to a third specialist, a hormone expert. Of course if you are funding the operation yourself there is a huge onus and responsibility to the doctor to be ethical.'



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Ganjababy

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This is facinating. But his narrative is not representative of all transgenders.

Did anyone see the news about boys in the DR being born as girls and then they become boys at puberty (grow their penis) due to some hormonal defect in their mother during pregnancy?

I think there are so many reasons why someone could be transgendered. Unfortunately i suspect a couple of people that i know may have the same narrative as this man.
 

yardyspice

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The treatment he suffered from those entrusted to protect him made him feel like he was 'a girl trapped in a male's body', he said, and he became reclusive because of it.

Wouldn't be something if in the future we find that it is a perverse result of patriarchy and misogyny? Say the trauma happens to a child just at the time when they are becoming aware of gender roles and in case of boys, they identify with the gender they feel is more powerless.
 

Zaynab

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This is facinating. But his narrative is not representative of all transgenders.

Did anyone see the news about boys in the DR being born as girls and then they become boys at puberty (grow their penis) due to some hormonal defect in their mother during pregnancy?

I think there are so many reasons why someone could be transgendered. Unfortunately i suspect a couple of people that i know may have the same narrative as this man.

No. But that sounds interesting.
 

PretteePlease

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This is facinating. But his narrative is not representative of all transgenders.

Did anyone see the news about boys in the DR being born as girls and then they become boys at puberty (grow their penis) due to some hormonal defect in their mother during pregnancy?

I think there are so many reasons why someone could be transgendered. Unfortunately i suspect a couple of people that i know may have the same narrative as this man.

No but it sounds like pesticide side effects. Pesticides have been know to cause sex changes in frogs. DR is know for sugar cane production among other cash crops.
 

LunadeMiel

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This is facinating. But his narrative is not representative of all transgenders.

Did anyone see the news about boys in the DR being born as girls and then they become boys at puberty (grow their penis) due to some hormonal defect in their mother during pregnancy?

I think there are so many reasons why someone could be transgendered. Unfortunately i suspect a couple of people that i know may have the same narrative as this man.
they are genetically boys born with a disorder, they just presented as girls.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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He says its biologically impossible to change a male into a female.

I agree that major surgeries such as this and bariatric surgery is not vetted as well as it could be. Post bariatric surgery weight gain is that field's dirty little secret. I see it a bit in my field.

I am interested in seeing what happens to Cait in 10 years if Cait stays healthy enough. I would NOT be surprised if there is a surgery reversal..


Off topic: In an attempt to learn about FTM transitioning, I follow an IG page dedicated to them. All I can think of is these FTM transitioners getting their breasts removed (aka Top Surgery)...which is REALLY strange to see on a woman who has the stretchmarks after having 4 kids...T-shots (aka Vitamin T for testosterone) to promote hair and muscle growth...and thinking.....These new buff guys still have periods though?.... Gotta be interesting if you date a female.

My former co-worker (mom of 1) started dating a girl who dressed like a boy....and she would complain about dealing with her 16 year old daughter's PMS...then her girlfriend's PMS (who wore boxers).....
 

beingofserenity

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He says its biologically impossible to change a male into a female.

I agree that major surgeries such as this and bariatric surgery is not vetted as well as it could be. Post bariatric surgery weight gain is that field's dirty little secret. I see it a bit in my field.

I am interested in seeing what happens to Cait in 10 years if Cait stays healthy enough. I would NOT be surprised if there is a surgery reversal..


Off topic: In an attempt to learn about FTM transitioning, I follow an IG page dedicated to them. All I can think of is these FTM transitioners getting their breasts removed (aka Top Surgery)...which is REALLY strange to see on a woman who has the stretchmarks after having 4 kids...T-shots (aka Vitamin T for testosterone) to promote hair and muscle growth...and thinking.....These new buff guys still have periods though?.... Gotta be interesting if you date a female.

My former co-worker (mom of 1) started dating a girl who dressed like a boy....and she would complain about dealing with her 16 year old daughter's PMS...then her girlfriend's PMS (who wore boxers).....

Ftm transitioners still have periods?!

Ew...

What page is that instagram btw?
 
'All they do is pump people full of hormones, put in breast implants and declare that they've manufactured a female. It's biologically impossible to make a man into a woman.'

Sooooooooooo true. Women are born not made/manufactured.

I recently went back and watched the earlier episodes of Grey's Anatomay. There was one episode where this man felt like his foot did not belong to him...like it was not a part of his body. He went into their free clinic with his ailment and requested that the foot be amputated. Of course all of the Dr.'s looked at him like he was crazy and ALL refused to amputate a perfectly healthy appendage.
They set the patient up with a psych consult. The patient ended up leaving and somehow got a hold of a chainsaw (I forget why there was a saw in the ER that day) and chopped off his own foot with no anesthetic.

This is what comes to mind when I consider someone wanting to remove a perfectly healthy body part. I can't understand what Dr. in their right mind would perform such surgeries. Even still, it must be really difficult to cope with these types of feelings. I can only imagine how lonely these people feel. I think it should definitely be treated as a mental disorder and not medical.
 

DragonPearl

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I do believe some transgenders experience regrets. But not all.

i think in this particular case, since society was very hostile to transgenders at the time, it may have contributed to his regrets. He felt like a pariah. that's not a way to live. I think now with more acceptance and tolerance, there might be less regrets among people who undergo sex changes.
 

LunadeMiel

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I do believe some transgenders experience regrets. But not all.

i think in this particular case, since society was very hostile to transgenders at the time, it may have contributed to his regrets. He felt like a pariah. that's not a way to live. I think now with more acceptance and tolerance, there might be less regrets among people who undergo sex changes.
I hope that as society evolves we recognize this for what it is and get these people the help that they need.
 
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