We talking about Russia and Ukraine?

dancinstallion

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Russian sausage tycoon Pavel Antov dies in Indian hotel fall

"Russian sausage tycoon Pavel Antov has been found dead at an Indian hotel, two days after a friend died during the same trip.

They were visiting the eastern state of Odisha and the millionaire, who was also a local politician, had just celebrated his birthday at the hotel.

Antov was a well known figure in the city of Vladimir, east of Moscow.
Last summer he denied criticising Russia's war in Ukraine after a message appeared on his WhatsApp account.
Reports in Russian media said Mr Antov, 65, had fallen from a window at the hotel in the city of Rayagada on Sunday. Another member of his four-strong Russian group, Vladimir Budanov, died at the hotel on Friday."
 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation

So they have all this money to pay toward a war that isn't ours? But can't forgive our student loans?

 

Transformer

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I can’t believe they have to tell folks this.

“The United States has told its citizens in Russia to leave immediately due to the war in Ukraine and the risk of potential harassment and arbitrary arrest by Russian law enforcement agencies.
"U.S. citizens residing or travelling in Russia should depart immediately," the US Mission Russia said in an updated travel advisory issued by the US State Department. "Exercise increased caution due to the risk of wrongful detentions," it said.
"Russian security services have arrested U.S. citizens on spurious charges, singled out U.S. citizens in Russia for detention and harassment, denied them fair and transparent treatment, and convicted them in secret trials or without presenting credible evidence."
Russian security services have increased the arbitrary enforcement of laws "to target foreign and international organizations they consider 'undesirable,'" the advisory added.
Some context: Several US citizens remain detained in Russia, including Paul Whelan, a former US Marine who US officials say is being wrongfully detained. He was arrested in Russia in December 2018 and sentenced to 16 years in prison. The US has repeatedly advised its citizens against travel to Russia and to leave the country immediately if there. “
 

LivingInPeace

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I can’t believe they have to tell folks this.

“The United States has told its citizens in Russia to leave immediately due to the war in Ukraine and the risk of potential harassment and arbitrary arrest by Russian law enforcement agencies.
"U.S. citizens residing or travelling in Russia should depart immediately," the US Mission Russia said in an updated travel advisory issued by the US State Department. "Exercise increased caution due to the risk of wrongful detentions," it said.
"Russian security services have arrested U.S. citizens on spurious charges, singled out U.S. citizens in Russia for detention and harassment, denied them fair and transparent treatment, and convicted them in secret trials or without presenting credible evidence."
Russian security services have increased the arbitrary enforcement of laws "to target foreign and international organizations they consider 'undesirable,'" the advisory added.
Some context: Several US citizens remain detained in Russia, including Paul Whelan, a former US Marine who US officials say is being wrongfully detained. He was arrested in Russia in December 2018 and sentenced to 16 years in prison. The US has repeatedly advised its citizens against travel to Russia and to leave the country immediately if there. “
I mean, what you need to be there for, anyway? It's Russia. Former USSR. KGB. Griner. People being poisoned. Why does someone need to tell you to leave?
 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
Let them stay. I'm sure it's a bunch of entitled folks that think just because they are American, they have the right to be wherever they want.
Right? Folks were decide to go/stay in that country are imbeciles and deserve what comes their way. Save resources for something else.
 

charmingt

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George W. Bush's secret memos to Obama revealed relationship with Russia had 'soured' and Putin had an eye on Ukraine​


Sarah K. Burris
February 14, 2023


President Barack Obama and President George W. Bush

Photo by White House photographer Pete Souza


Newly declassified memos from former President George W. Bush and then-incoming President Barack Obama revealed that while W touted the "soul" of the Russian president, he acknowledged that the relationship had "soured" and they were looking to go after Ukraine.


The New York Times reported on the newly revealed memos saying warning five years prior to the annexation of Crimea, Russia was ready to pounce.
The memo concludes that their “strategy of personal diplomacy met with early success” but after Russia invaded the Soviet republic of Georgia in 2008 the relationship with the U.S. was not well.
“Russia attempts to challenge the territorial integrity of Ukraine, particularly in Crimea, which is 59 percent ethnically Russian and is home to the Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet, must be prevented,” the memo said.

It went on to say, “Russia will exploit Europe’s dependence on Russian energy” and use political means “to drive wedges between the United States and Europe.”
Thirteen years later, it's precisely what has happened. What Russian President Vladimir Putin didn't seem to count on was just how badly equipped his military was and how willing the Europeans were to fight to preserve the NATO alliance with the United States.
There were 40 classified memos but only 30 of them will be published by the Brookings Institute on Wednesday with details by Bush's former national security adviser, Stephen Hadley.
“They were designed to provide the incoming administration with what they needed to know about the most critical foreign policy and national security issues they would face,” Bush wrote in the book's foreword. “The memoranda told them candidly what we thought we had accomplished — where we had succeeded and where we had fallen short — and what work remained to be done.”
Each memo focuses on a different country or a different element of foreign policy.
 

Black Ambrosia

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I don't think they're trying to fool anyone. I think they release the details and call it suicide to let people know they are not to be :censored: with. It's interesting how they're so effective one on one but not in war. Putin should've just sat on his hands. He's revealed to the world how weak Russia is and he's depleting the resources they have. We aren't hearing about it but he's got to be ticking off Russian citizens who are losing loved ones in the war or fear dying themselves.
 

Transformer

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I don’t know why I can’t post pictures or change font styles and colors anymore.

Anyway

A top Russian defence official has been found dead after plunging 160ft from a tower block window, in the latest mysterious death of a high-ranking Kremlin figure.
Marina Yankina, 58, was discovered by a passerby at the entrance of a house on Zamshina Street in St Petersburg.
She is believed to have fallen from the 16th floor to her death.
Ms Yankina was a key figure in the funding of Vladimir Putin's illegal war in Ukraine as head of the financial support department of the Ministry of Defence for the Western Military District, which is closely involved in the dictator's invasion.

The Russian Investigative Committee and the press service of the Western Military District 'Fontanka' both confirmed her death, and have launched an investigation into it.

She is the latest in a string of Russian officials to have died in mysterious circumstances since the start of Putin's invasion.
 
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