Cinnabuns said:I know that allot of Christians (such as myself) don’t celebrate all holidays like Halloween, Easter, etc. Do you celebrate all holidays? If so which ones are they and why or why not?
msportugal said:i'm not into easter or christmas because my heart is not settled with the mix of pagan practices mixed with christian practices years ago in the beginning of the church
in order to get people to convert. it might be fine for some but when Jesus left he said
about communion "This do in remembrance of me" so i dont need to celebrate either of
those seperately i acknowledge them at the time of communion. I especially have a
problem with the particular dates of these holidays taken directly from pagan holidays.
I'm a Christian that celebrates these holidays and I think I understand where you are coming from, msportugal. But I think of it this way: Christmas and most other holidays are American traditions. I took an African-American studies class and holidays were classified as the "White Man holidays." Besides that, men actually created these holidays and the ideas that go along with them. Like Christmas...where did these ideas of the yuletide tree, Santa Claus, and other things come about? I'm sure God wants us to celebrate, praise, and thank Him for His son Jesus but not just on certain days of the year... why not everyday of the year? I've just grew up in a family that celebrates these holidays... through the American tradition.msportugal said:i'm not into easter or christmas because my heart is not settled with the mix of pagan practices mixed with christian practices years ago in the beginning of the church
in order to get people to convert. it might be fine for some but when Jesus left he said
about communion "This do in remembrance of me" so i dont need to celebrate either of
those seperately i acknowledge them at the time of communion. I especially have a
problem with the particular dates of these holidays taken directly from pagan holidays.
Cinnabuns said:I know that allot of Christians (such as myself) don’t celebrate all holidays like Halloween, Easter, etc. Do you celebrate all holidays? If so which ones are they and why or why not?
star said:Easter is Christian Holiday. Next to Christimas it is the most important season for a Christian. Although the world may try to change our Holy days into just holidays, we must remain focus on what Jesus did on the cross for all those who believe. You must as a Christian celebrate, remember and reflect on what Jesus did at the cross. Please do some research on this. Halloween is definetly out since does not have any part of it that honors God. Any holiday that does not honor God you should stay away from. Some of our holiday indirectly honor God such as Mother's Day, Father's Day, Grandparent's and even Valentine's Day(should be married). The world has taken a lot of things that were created by Christians thousands years ago and have tried to change. But it is up to us Christians to be a light in keep Christ in it. Just because others are doing wrong does not mean we should give it up.
Poohbear said:I'm a Christian that celebrates these holidays and I think I understand where you are coming from, msportugal. But I think of it this way: Christmas and most other holidays are American traditions. I took an African-American studies class and holidays were classified as the "White Man holidays." Besides that, men actually created these holidays and the ideas that go along with them. Like Christmas...where did these ideas of the yuletide tree, Santa Claus, and other things come about? I'm sure God wants us to celebrate, praise, and thank Him for His son Jesus but not just on certain days of the year... why not everyday of the year? I've just grew up in a family that celebrates these holidays... through the American tradition.
Let's take Christmas for example. I was discussing with my sister once about how I will celebrate Christmas when I have a family of my own. I'm thinking about not giving presents at all on Christmas... just have a family dedication to Jesus and reflect on what He did for us and incorporate Bible study and prayer. Why spend all your hard earn money for just one day on family, friends, or other people when you may or may not give to these people throughout the year??? I'm sure some people's purpose of giving presents is to celebrate God giving us Jesus and how the three wise men gave gifts to Jesus, but I do not think God intended us to give and receive gifts just on Christmas day and be spendrift with your money. He wants us to give and be generous throughout the whole year. That's how I see it.
Cinnabuns said:Here is some interesting information on Valentine's Day:
As early as the fourth century B.C., the Romans engaged in an annual young man's rite to passage to the God Lupercus. The names of the teenage women were placed in a box and drawn at random by adolescent men; thus, a man was assigned a woman companion for the duration of the year, after which another lottery was staged. After eight hundred years of this cruel practice, the early church fathers sought to end this practice... They found an answer in Valentine, a bishop who had been martyred some two hundred years earlier.
According to church tradition St. Valentine was a priest near Rome in about the year 270 A.D. At that time the Roman Emperor Claudius-II who had issued an edict forbidding marriage.
This was around when the heyday of Roman empire had almost come to an end. Lack of quality administrators led to frequent civil strife. Learning declined, taxation increased, and trade slumped to a low, precarious level. And the Gauls, Slavs, Huns, Turks and Mongolians from Northern Europe and Asian increased their pressure on the empire's boundaries. The empire was grown too large to be shielded from external aggression and internal chaos with existing forces. Thus more of capable men were required to be recruited as soldiers and officers. When Claudius became the emperor, he felt that married men were more emotionally attached to their families, and thus, will not make good soldiers. So to assure quality soldiers, he banned marriage.
Valentine, a bishop , seeing the trauma of young lovers, met them in a secret place, and joined them in the sacrament of matrimony. Claudius learned of this "friend of lovers," and had him arrested. The emperor, impressed with the young priest's dignity and conviction, attempted to convert him to the roman gods, to save him from certain execution. Valentine refused to recognize Roman Gods and even attempted to convert the emperor, knowing the consequences fully.
On February 24, 270, Valentine was executed.
"From your Valentine"
While Valentine was in prison awaiting his fate, he came in contact with his jailor, Asterius. The jailor had a blind daughter. Asterius requested him to heal his daughter. Through his faith he miraculously restored the sight of Asterius' daughter. Just before his execution, he asked for a pen and paper from his jailor, and signed a farewell message to her "From Your Valentine," a phrase that lived ever after.
Valentine thus become a Patron Saint, and spiritual overseer of an annual festival. The festival involved young Romans offering women they admired, and wished to court, handwritten greetings of affection on February 14. The greeting cards acquired St.Valentine's name.
The Valentine's Day card spread with Christianity, and is now celebrated all over the world. One of the earliest card was sent in 1415 by Charles, duke of Orleans, to his wife while he was a prisoner in the Tower of London. The card is now preserved in the British Museum.
I also read that Valentine's execution was quit grusome, they cut out his heart!
Blossssom said:You're a Christian and you don't celebrate Easter? Isn't Easter the day of the risen Lord?
msportugal said:Ok just to clarify I am a Christian. I believe in the trinity and that God became man was born, died on the cross and rose in 3 days with all power. I believe that you cant just celebrate any and every holiday out there and then say I'm doing this to the Glory of God. Easter wasnt made pagan it started pagan and then was tweeked a bit to increase the numbers of the church. Christmas is the same way. These dates were directly taken from pagan practices. When it comes to holidays to each their own i'm not going to down anyone for what they do in that respect but. I'm not going to celebrate any holiday out of tradition and then say well glory to God he knows my heart. We were not told to hold any of these holidays in high esteem. Jesus knew what he came for and that he was going to leave and never once mentioned that we should celebrate his birth or his death as holy days. What did he say about remembering him? He said take communion. If there is anything different in the bible please point it out and i will consider changing my views.
Origins of the name "Easter":
The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre."
--see shes the goddess of fertility thus the rabbits and baby chicks and eggs.
i could post about the pagan origins of christmas but i dont want it to start to look like
a debate. I came to the realization that these were not for me after many tears and lots of prayer. I do believe that christ died for my sins.
sugaplum said:I don't celebrate Easter either and I'm a Christian becuase there is no where in the Bible where there is a specific day that Jesus rose from the dead??? Also, I don't believe that Easter is all about coloring eggs, egg hunts, bunnies hoping around, and eating candy. I know that Jesus rose from the dead (in my heart) I highly doubt that ANYONE was coloring eggs while Jesus was risen!!!
I don't celebrate Halloween either becuase it is pagenistic. My question to parents is "Why is it that we tell our children 'Don't except candy from strangers' but on Halloween the kids are going door-to-door asking for candy from strangers??
msportugal said:Ok just to clarify I am a Christian. I believe in the trinity and that God became man was born, died on the cross and rose in 3 days with all power. I believe that you cant just celebrate any and every holiday out there and then say I'm doing this to the Glory of God. Easter wasnt made pagan it started pagan and then was tweeked a bit to increase the numbers of the church. Christmas is the same way. These dates were directly taken from pagan practices. When it comes to holidays to each their own i'm not going to down anyone for what they do in that respect but. I'm not going to celebrate any holiday out of tradition and then say well glory to God he knows my heart. We were not told to hold any of these holidays in high esteem. Jesus knew what he came for and that he was going to leave and never once mentioned that we should celebrate his birth or his death as holy days. What did he say about remembering him? He said take communion. If there is anything different in the bible please point it out and i will consider changing my views.
DelightfulFlame said:The same Christians that founded this country also enslaved my people in the name of Christianity. I don't claim to know the mind of God, but I don't fully think that is why this country is so "blessed". Especially if the blessings that you refer to are the ones that came from the blood and back pains of my ancestors or the stolen land from the native americans.
Just about every nation on earth has had their time of being blessed and on top in history...some Christian nations...some not. In fact, while Europe was experiencing its dark ages, other nations (some in Africa) had some of their most prosperous times in history. I'm a Christian too...I just don't agree with America's exploitation of so many people in the name of Christianity (not true Christianity of course) as being considered the reason why this country is so "blessed".
ETA: And then you have to define blessings. Yea, we have money and material things. But the family structure is a mess...we have all kinds of ethical and moral dilemmas (ie. taught to cheat and white lie to get by...do whatever for the love of money). We don't know our neighbors. We don't care much for people who aren't in our immediate circle. Of course this is a huge generalization, but much of this country is rude and selfish. Not by any means everyone, but this is the attitude/atmosphere that we project. I know that every country has it's problems, but I would argue that we aren't much better than anyone else. We just think we are.
Reminds me of that movie...Head of State..."God bless America and no place else!"
msportugal said:Ok just to clarify I am a Christian. I believe in the trinity and that God became man was born, died on the cross and rose in 3 days with all power. I believe that you cant just celebrate any and every holiday out there and then say I'm doing this to the Glory of God. Easter wasnt made pagan it started pagan and then was tweeked a bit to increase the numbers of the church. Christmas is the same way. These dates were directly taken from pagan practices. When it comes to holidays to each their own i'm not going to down anyone for what they do in that respect but. I'm not going to celebrate any holiday out of tradition and then say well glory to God he knows my heart. We were not told to hold any of these holidays in high esteem. Jesus knew what he came for and that he was going to leave and never once mentioned that we should celebrate his birth or his death as holy days. What did he say about remembering him? He said take communion. If there is anything different in the bible please point it out and i will consider changing my views.
Origins of the name "Easter":
The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre."
--see shes the goddess of fertility thus the rabbits and baby chicks and eggs.
i could post about the pagan origins of christmas but i dont want it to start to look like
a debate. I came to the realization that these were not for me after many tears and lots of prayer. I do believe that christ died for my sins.
Blossssom said:You're a Christian and you don't celebrate Easter? Isn't Easter the day of the risen Lord?
sugaplum said:My question to parents is "Why is it that we tell our children 'Don't except candy from strangers' but on Halloween the kids are going door-to-door asking for candy from strangers??
I AGREE!!! :YEP:Cinnabuns said:Hello Blosssom. I don't celebrate Easter because of the Pagan activity that it comes with, Easter Eggs, Bunnies, etc. I believe that myself as Chrisitian should celebrate the Lord's rising (and birth) everyday not just ONE day that is either in March, April or December. IMHO
Cinnabuns said:Hello Blosssom. I don't celebrate Easter because of the Pagan activity that it comes with, Easter Eggs, Bunnies, etc. I believe that myself as Chrisitian should celebrate the Lord's rising (and birth) everyday not just ONE day that is either in March, April or December. IMHO
Is that the same as the Lord's Supper???Stylepink said:The only thing that I observe is the Lords Evening Meal. It was last night and it was a beautiful service.
msportugal said:Ok just to clarify I am a Christian. I believe in the trinity and that God became man was born, died on the cross and rose in 3 days with all power. I believe that you cant just celebrate any and every holiday out there and then say I'm doing this to the Glory of God. Easter wasnt made pagan it started pagan and then was tweeked a bit to increase the numbers of the church. Christmas is the same way. These dates were directly taken from pagan practices. When it comes to holidays to each their own i'm not going to down anyone for what they do in that respect but. I'm not going to celebrate any holiday out of tradition and then say well glory to God he knows my heart. We were not told to hold any of these holidays in high esteem. Jesus knew what he came for and that he was going to leave and never once mentioned that we should celebrate his birth or his death as holy days. What did he say about remembering him? He said take communion. If there is anything different in the bible please point it out and i will consider changing my views.
Origins of the name "Easter":
The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre."
--see shes the goddess of fertility thus the rabbits and baby chicks and eggs.
i could post about the pagan origins of christmas but i dont want it to start to look like
a debate. I came to the realization that these were not for me after many tears and lots of prayer. I do believe that christ died for my sins.
LadyR said:My husband who is a Reverand and truly reads and studies the word of God, asked me one question one day that made me think, the question was " How could Jesus die on a Friday and rise on a Sunday and it be 3 days. It's not possible. Sometimes we need to stop following tradition and truly think about things and I'm not singling any one out because I will atest that before I married my husband I was just celbrating and following tradition just because everyone else was and now I can look at things and say " hmmmm that doesn't make sense.
God Bless
Blossssom said:Another excellent post. I listen to a bible minister on the radio and he said when he and his wife were raising their children, they MADE gifts to give to others. They just bought the supplies. They also gave fruits and nuts.