I haven't measured since Aug but I was at 17.5 inches then. I will get a relaxer next week(12 weeks post) and I'm hoping to be at 19 inches then. I am tall though (i guess) and Trimbride says 11 inches is shoulder but I am just past shoulder....who knows
ETA: I need approximately 21 inches to be APL...
I am measuring the actual length of a handful of strands from the root to the end. My measurement from hairline to end is 18 inches. I hope that makes sense