I just did a touch up yesterday with Motions Salon Herbals Regular relaxer. I used the whole system (relaxer, neutralizing conditioner, shampoo, and fortifying conditioner). I was approximately 4 months post relaxer, one week out of kinky twists. This is the best touch up I've had in a LONG time. I may have gotten good results becuase I also processed in two steps - I did the front half of my head, neutralized, and then did the back. I've been searching for the perfect lye relaxer and I think I found it. I hope so at least. Time will tell.