Why is birth control/contraception wrong?

[vtoodler]

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[kinkycurlygurl]

Natural family planning works. People don't have to have as many children as nature allows. God does give us some measure of choice in the matter.

Hormonal birth control is believed to essentially cause abortions in some instances, which is why many non-Catholic Christians are against it.

That belief is an error. Hormonal birth control prevents inhibits ovulation. No egg in the uterus=sperm with nothing to do.

That's not an abortion.

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

Well


When I first gave my life to Christ I use to think that birth control was wrong thats because I had no understanding of it. People always say the bible says "Be fruitful and multiply" but it only says that like 2-3 times in the bible and that was when the earth was first being inhabitated. So now the earth is FULLY populated, overly really, so its not a commandment to have a whole lot of children.Now they are cases where a woman was on some type of birth control and she still got pregnant. Well if thats happens, well hey Glory to God. But it is nothing wrong with a woman taking precautions. If you have a husband and a wife that only makes $32,000/year and can't afford children, I would rather them take the steps to prevent pregnancy until they are financially stable verses them bringing kids into this world they cant afford to take care of. But sometimes people have a whole lot of kids and say this will was the of God, and for some it may be. But if you have unprotected sex pregnancy will be the outcome. You should just use wisdom. Like this women on TV with these 20 kids. She almost died her last two pregnancy and just had a miscarriage. Now by no means am I trying to talk down about this woman. But her health and life is in jeproady.The bible says God maketh rich and added no sorrow to it.

So if people dont want to use birth control with their spouse, thats fine. And for the ones who do, thats fine too... no one is wrong...

Death in childbirth or as a result of many pregnancies used to be fairly common before reliable birth control. Personally, I think that Duggar woman is selfish because she continues to have children when the latest ones are coming out sick and she puts herself and the newest baby at risk of death. I think a woman who already has 19 kids can't afford risks like that. She could leave the 19 kids she already has motherless. I guess a harsh person could say that the older ones can take care of the younger ones, but all of them want and need their mother alive.

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

The bolded is not biblical statement. Source: http://bible.org/seriespage/heavenly-minded-and-earthly-good-1-corinthians-318-45

It also goes against this Scripture:

Colossians 3:2
2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.

Additionally, no one is/was more heavenly minded than Jesus, yet he was of good to the earth. Anyone who can get even close to being as heavenly minded as Jesus is on the right path.

Jesus didn't have any children.

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

I think it's fine for every woman to choose for herself when and if she wants to use birth control. However, I believe that birth control methods should be available to everyone who chooses to use them. I don't think any group should force their beliefs about birth control on others.

For me, that means there should be education about contraceptive options, and women and men should be able to purchase the contraception method of their choice without stigma or shame if they choose to use it. I would never want to roll the laws back to a time when contraception was illegal.

At the same time, people who choose not to use contraception should be left in peace with that decision too.

 

[Galadriel]

That belief is an error. Hormonal birth control prevents inhibits ovulation. No egg in the uterus=sperm with nothing to do.

That's not an abortion.

Ovulation is not always suppressed by oral contraceptives (especially with the "morning after" pill or the "week after" pill (ELLA)).



In these cases, the egg is fertilized, conception takes place, and a new human being begins to develop. These contraceptives interfere with the pregnancy by changing the lining of the uterus so that a newly conceived child cannot implant in the womb. This hostile environment causes the fertilized egg to die.

 

[Galadriel]

Death in childbirth or as a result of many pregnancies used to be fairly common before reliable birth control.

Stats please?

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

Ovulation is not always suppressed by oral contraceptives (especially with the "morning after" pill or the "week after" pill (ELLA)).



In these cases, the egg is fertilized, conception takes place, and a new human being begins to develop. These contraceptives interfere with the pregnancy by changing the lining of the uterus so that a newly conceived child cannot implant in the womb. This hostile environment causes the fertilized egg to die.

Right, but I was referring to normal hormonal contraceptives that one would take on a daily basis. The morning after pill is an emergency measure to prevent the implantation of an egg or end a very new pregnancy. I think the morning after pill should be available to those who want it.

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

No. 1420. Live Births, Deaths, Infant Deaths, and Maternal Deaths:
1900 to 1997
[Prior to 1960, excludes Alaska and Hawaii. Beginning 1970, excludes births to, and deaths of nonresidents of the United States.
See Appendix III. 1900-1930, deaths for death registration states only]
Year
Number (1,000) Rate per 1,000 population Death rates per 100,000 population
Births
Deaths
Births
Deaths
Tuber-
culosis,
all
forms
Malig-
nant
neo-
plasms 3
Major
cardio-
vascu-
lar/
renal
dis-
eases
Influ-
enza
and
pneu-
monia 4
Motor
vehicle
acci-
dents 5
Total Infant 1 Total Infant 1 Mater-
nal 2
1900 . . . . (NA) (NA) (NA) (NA) 17.2 (NA) (NA) 194.4 64.0 345.2 202.2 (NA)
1905 . . . . (NA) (NA) (NA) (NA) 15.9 (NA) (NA) 179.9 73.4 384.0 169.3 (NA)
1910 . . . . 2,777 697 (NA) 30.1 14.7 (NA) (NA) 153.8 76.2 371.9 155.9 1.8
1915 . . . . 2,965 816 78 29.5 13.2 99.9 60.8 140.1 80.7 383.5 145.9 5.8
1920 . . . . 2,950 1,118 130 27.7 13.0 85.8 79.9 113.1 83.4 364.9 207.3 10.3
1925 . . . . 2,909 1,192 135 25.1 11.7 71.7 64.7 84.8 92.0 391.5 121.7 16.8
1930 . . . . 2,618 1,327 142 21.3 11.3 64.6 67.3 71.1 97.4 414.4 102.5 26.7
1935 . . . . 2,377 1,393 120 18.7 10.9 55.7 58.2 55.1 108.2 431.2 104.2 28.6
1940 . . . . 2,559 1,417 111 19.4 10.8 47.0 37.6 45.9 120.3 485.7 70.3 26.2
1945 . . . . 2,858 1,402 105 20.4 10.6 38.3 20.7 39.9 134.0 508.2 51.6 21.2
1950 . . . . 3,632 1,452 104 24.1 9.6 29.2 8.3 22.5 139.8 510.8 31.3 23.1
1955 . . . . 4,104 1,529 107 25.0 9.3 26.4 4.7 9.1 146.5 506.0 27.1 23.4
1957 . . . . 4,308 1,633 112 25.3 9.6 26.3 4.1 7.8 148.6 523.4 35.8 22.7
1960 . . . . 4,258 1,712 111 23.7 9.5 26.0 3.7 6.1 149.2 521.8 37.3 21.3
1965 . . . . 3,760 1,828 93 19.4 9.4 24.7 3.2 4.1 153.5 516.4 31.9 25.4
1970 . . . . 3,731 1,921 75 18.4 9.5 20.0 2.2 2.6 162.8 496.0 30.9 26.9
1975 . . . . 3,144 1,893 51 14.6 9.1 16.1 1.5 1.6 171.7 455.8 26.1 21.5
1980 . . . . 3,612 1,990 46 15.9 8.5 12.6 1.0 0.9 183.9 436.4 24.1 23.5
1985 . . . . 3,761 2,086 40 15.8 8.6 10.6 0.8 0.7 194.0 411.0 28.4 19.3
1990 . . . . 4,158 2,148 38 16.7 8.6 9.2 0.8 0.7 203.2 368.3 32.0 18.8
1995 . . . . 3,900 2,312 30 14.8 8.8 7.6 0.8 0.5 204.9 362.1 31.6 16.5
1997 . . . . 3,895 2,315 28 14.6 8.6 7.1 0.8 0.4 200.8 352.2 33.0 15.8
NA Not available. 1 Infants under 1 year, excluding fetal deaths; rates per 1,000 registered live births. 2 Per 10,000 live
births from deliveries and complications of pregnancy, childbirth, and the puerperium. Beginning 1979, deaths are classified
according to the ninth revision of the International Classification of Diseases; earlier years classified according to the revision in
use at the time; see text, Section 2, Vital Statistics. 3 Includes neoplasms of lymphatic and hematopoietic tissues. 4 All years,
excludes pneumonia of newborn; 1900-1920, excludes capillary bronchitis. 5 1910-1925, excludes automobile collisions with
trains and streetcars and motorcycle accidents.
Source: 1900-1970, U.S. Public Health Service, Vital Statistics of the United States, annual, Vol. I and Vol. II; 1971-1997, U.S.
National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics of the United States, annual; National Vital Statistics Report (NVSR) (formerly
Monthly Vital Statistics Report); and unpublished data.
You can download the pdf from the US Census Bureau here: www.census.gov/prod/99pubs/99statab/sec31.pdf

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[aribell]

Right, but I was referring to normal hormonal contraceptives that one would take on a daily basis. The morning after pill is an emergency measure to prevent the implantation of an egg or end a very new pregnancy. I think the morning after pill should be available to those who want it.

The pill works to stop ovulation, but is not always successful. The pill also prevents the lining from forming in a woman's uterus so that a fertilized egg will not attach and will simply be passed out of the woman's system. There are many who consider this happening even once to be abortifacient and therefore unacceptable.

 

[aribell]

Death in childbirth or as a result of many pregnancies used to be fairly common before reliable birth control.

The chart presented shows the number of deaths from 1900 till 1997. It makes no connection between the death rate and the number of pregnancies the woman had, nor how many other children she had borne. Death in childbirth and death as a result of multiple pregnancies are very different.

Declines in the rate of deaths in childbirth and infant mortality are largely attributed to improvements the medical field, the introduction of antibiotics, controlling infectious disease, improving prenatal care, and so on. Women being pregnant less often because of birth control wouldn't improve the rate of deaths occurring.

 

[divya]

Never really gave this much thought. God requires His people to be responsible and I've always perceived BC/contraception as being responsible within the context of marriage (though it's important to be careful with the medicines we put into our system). To me, each couple should move according to conviction. Interesting discussion though...

 

[Galadriel]

Right, but I was referring to normal hormonal contraceptives that one would take on a daily basis. The morning after pill is an emergency measure to prevent the implantation of an egg or end a very new pregnancy. I think the morning after pill should be available to those who want it.

The pill, IUD, etc. can fall under this.

 

[Galadriel]

The chart presented shows the number of deaths from 1900 till 1997. It makes no connection between the death rate and the number of pregnancies the woman had, nor how many other children she had borne. Death in childbirth and death as a result of multiple pregnancies are very different.

Declines in the rate of deaths in childbirth and infant mortality are largely attributed to improvements the medical field, the introduction of antibiotics, controlling infectious disease, improving prenatal care, and so on. Women being pregnant less often because of birth control wouldn't improve the rate of deaths occurring.

Also, the stats will also count a pregnant woman dying in a car accident as "maternal death" simply b/c she died as a pregnant woman. So one would have to really look at the direct causes of death.

 

[dicapr]

Contraception is a personal decision between God and the married couple. No matter what the "choice" God is still in control. There are couples who do nothing to prevent pregnancy and do not have any children and others who have undergone sterilization procedures who have surprise pregnancies. God is in control. To me, using or not using birth control is merely an expression of desire. God still decides and controls the outcome.