Hair Iam
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If you know the word it says God is "jealous for us" "not of us"..you will see and hear what I mean
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA
YOU MUST WATCH this hurry it may be taken off utube today Oprah denies Jesus! (2KB)
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Wow!! How blind? She said that when she heard that it didnt feel right to her but what she should know is that when you get that feeling it it the holy spirit telling you something . She probably should have looked deeper into the phase "God is a Jealous God". And just to think of how many people were miss led .
Wow!! How blind? She said that when she heard that it didnt feel right to her but what she should know is that when you get that feeling it it the holy spirit telling you something . She probably should have looked deeper into the phase "God is a Jealous God". And just to think of how many people were miss led .
Hair Iam
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Good point
Good point
AmyInAtl
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The man was asked, what did he think of, death, and of himself, when he would, more or less, be passed from this world.
He said he gave it no thought.
For me, that said crackpot, all day.
Po tang's.
The man was asked, what did he think of, death, and of himself, when he would, more or less, be passed from this world.
He said he gave it no thought.
For me, that said crackpot, all day.
Po tang's.
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This might be off topic...but I'll put it out there for consideration....
I recall hearing somebody say (maybe at church) about how such spiritual-type "movements" (like psychics and similar) usually have a Black female as the spokesperson. Examples such as this.... Also Miss Cleo and Dionne Warwick, Mother Love, etc....
This is following that same pattern, although Oprah has transcended by leaps and bounds the others previously mentioned.... Oprah's reach with this is global....
This might be off topic...but I'll put it out there for consideration....
I recall hearing somebody say (maybe at church) about how such spiritual-type "movements" (like psychics and similar) usually have a Black female as the spokesperson. Examples such as this.... Also Miss Cleo and Dionne Warwick, Mother Love, etc....
This is following that same pattern, although Oprah has transcended by leaps and bounds the others previously mentioned.... Oprah's reach with this is global....
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Isis
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IMO, that was a pretty judgmental video. This Christian forum alone represents a wide variety of Christian religions and not all say or believe the same thing. There are Christians in this very forum who really do believe God is a jealous God--in that exact context--and are reading this thread. I feel that if your beliefs are working for you, that is what's most important. What other people choose to do or believe is their business.
IMO, that was a pretty judgmental video. This Christian forum alone represents a wide variety of Christian religions and not all say or believe the same thing. There are Christians in this very forum who really do believe God is a jealous God--in that exact context--and are reading this thread. I feel that if your beliefs are working for you, that is what's most important. What other people choose to do or believe is their business.
discobiscuits
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pslo04hB1Rk&feature=related
at 7:36 she said:
Now, those of us who are Christians know that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light and that no person comes to the Father but through Jesus.
In all of these video clips I've watched, Oprah has yet to specifically say that she does not believe in God or Christ. She keeps reiterating that she does not believe that there is only one way. Perhaps this is an example of 2 Tim. 3:5 - she is denying the power and touting forms of godliness.
I've met Oprah, but I did not ask her about her religious beliefs. So far in these clips, she has said clearly that 1. she is a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ, he is her Lord and Savior but 2. she clearly said that she believes that for other people there may be other ways.
Based on other statements she has made, my opinion is that she has been exposed to at worst, intentionally taught false doctrines or at best, incorrect doctrine taught in a genuinely unintentional way. In either case, she is mistaken in her hope that there are other paths or ways to God outside of or rather than Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pslo04hB1Rk&feature=related
at 7:36 she said:
which came after she stated that she is a Christian, albeit a "free-thinking Christian" but she did state that she is a Christian. The quote that I referenced above is, in essence, Oprah saying that she believes in Christ. However, she also believes that there are different paths to God for different people.
Now, those of us who are Christians know that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light and that no person comes to the Father but through Jesus.
In all of these video clips I've watched, Oprah has yet to specifically say that she does not believe in God or Christ. She keeps reiterating that she does not believe that there is only one way. Perhaps this is an example of 2 Tim. 3:5 - she is denying the power and touting forms of godliness.
I've met Oprah, but I did not ask her about her religious beliefs. So far in these clips, she has said clearly that 1. she is a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ, he is her Lord and Savior but 2. she clearly said that she believes that for other people there may be other ways.
Based on other statements she has made, my opinion is that she has been exposed to at worst, intentionally taught false doctrines or at best, incorrect doctrine taught in a genuinely unintentional way. In either case, she is mistaken in her hope that there are other paths or ways to God outside of or rather than Jesus.
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I've not seen the clip becuase I am at work and youtube is blocked.
My thought on the bolded - whether it is right or wrong, Oprah is not going to tell a large chunk of her audience (directly or indirectly) that they are wrong because they do not believe Jesus is the way and the truth. I don't know what % of Oprah's audience is non-Christian but I'd assume it was quite a lot. If she stood up there saying "If you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell!" or someting along those lines I am sure that people would call her judgemental, would stop watching her and she would no longer have her "global reach".
I guess she is trying to watch what she says so she doesn't offend anybody - and I'm sure she has people that advise her on this.
Again, I'm not saying she is right to do it but I think I get the "why" behind it
I've not seen the clip becuase I am at work and youtube is blocked.
My thought on the bolded - whether it is right or wrong, Oprah is not going to tell a large chunk of her audience (directly or indirectly) that they are wrong because they do not believe Jesus is the way and the truth. I don't know what % of Oprah's audience is non-Christian but I'd assume it was quite a lot. If she stood up there saying "If you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell!" or someting along those lines I am sure that people would call her judgemental, would stop watching her and she would no longer have her "global reach".
I guess she is trying to watch what she says so she doesn't offend anybody - and I'm sure she has people that advise her on this.
Again, I'm not saying she is right to do it but I think I get the "why" behind it
cocoberry10
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I agree with you Isis. I definitely think this video was taken out of context. I have seen Oprah in several interviews, and I've ALWAYS heard her say "I don't need therapy, b/c I have Jesus." "I don't need this, b/c I have Jesus."
I do think Oprah is getting a little "new age," but not necessarily in the way we might think. I trust that GOD knows Oprah's heart more than me (or any of us
). I do think that Oprah kinda "missed the point" about the "jealous God." To me that's always meant that He wants to be our #1.
Also, for the record, I've gone to church and sat through sermons that left my heart feeling bad. I feel good that whenever something doesn't sit right with my soul (no matter where/what it is) MY HEAVENLY FATHER WILL LEAD ME THROUGH IT
I agree with you Isis. I definitely think this video was taken out of context. I have seen Oprah in several interviews, and I've ALWAYS heard her say "I don't need therapy, b/c I have Jesus." "I don't need this, b/c I have Jesus."
I do think Oprah is getting a little "new age," but not necessarily in the way we might think. I trust that GOD knows Oprah's heart more than me (or any of us
). I do think that Oprah kinda "missed the point" about the "jealous God." To me that's always meant that He wants to be our #1.Also, for the record, I've gone to church and sat through sermons that left my heart feeling bad. I feel good that whenever something doesn't sit right with my soul (no matter where/what it is) MY HEAVENLY FATHER WILL LEAD ME THROUGH IT
cocoberry10
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I just bumped up the thread with this link, but I think in light of this thread, I am going to attach the link here. A lot of time IMO, we worry about certain things (not saying we shouldn't, but overlook so many other things). Please watch below ladies!
http://www.interviewwiththedevil.com/
I just bumped up the thread with this link, but I think in light of this thread, I am going to attach the link here. A lot of time IMO, we worry about certain things (not saying we shouldn't, but overlook so many other things). Please watch below ladies!
http://www.interviewwiththedevil.com/
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Wow. My sister is getting into this thing with Oprah. She's been trying to get me to buy Eckhart Tolle's book and to join Oprah's online class on these teachings. We both have negative baggage from previous churches and so whenever we get into a conversation about churches and religion, she says "That's why I'm more into being spiritual and not religious" but I keep trying to tell her it's not about religion or being religious but about a relationship with God. She did start a cover to cover reading of the Bible so that's progress. Although she keeps pushing this on me, something (Holy Spirit) in my spirit keeps telling me to stay away from it. I'm just not interested in it. IDK.
Wow. My sister is getting into this thing with Oprah. She's been trying to get me to buy Eckhart Tolle's book and to join Oprah's online class on these teachings. We both have negative baggage from previous churches and so whenever we get into a conversation about churches and religion, she says "That's why I'm more into being spiritual and not religious" but I keep trying to tell her it's not about religion or being religious but about a relationship with God. She did start a cover to cover reading of the Bible so that's progress. Although she keeps pushing this on me, something (Holy Spirit) in my spirit keeps telling me to stay away from it. I'm just not interested in it. IDK.
Crackers Phinn
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When you scratch the surface of the religion based criticisms of Oprah, Obama, Rev Wright, etc., the theme becomes very clear.
When you scratch the surface of the religion based criticisms of Oprah, Obama, Rev Wright, etc., the theme becomes very clear.
Ms.Honey
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To be a Christian means to be a follower/worshipper of Jesus Christ and His teachings. He teaches that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Him. If you believe that there are other ways to God than Jesus you aren't a Christian. Before I converted I pretty much believed the same way as Oprah, Obama etc.. I believed that people of other religions were worshipping God just calling Him by different names and that it was good enough for Him. I wasn't a Christian but called myself one and truly believed I was one and would have been very offended if someone had said I wasn't. I was a nominal Christian, a Christian in name only. My lifestyle and ways of thinking showed me that I wasn't a true Chrisitian and I wasn't able to see that until I converted. I believe that she truly believes that she is a Christian but a more open-minded, modern one. Like those of us here that have converted, just like us she has to find out that He is God and that He is the only way to the Father,heaven and true peace. I think she's searching for Him which is a good thing. Hopefully she will come to know Him as her Savior and converts and lives her life as a true believer.
To be a Christian means to be a follower/worshipper of Jesus Christ and His teachings. He teaches that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Him. If you believe that there are other ways to God than Jesus you aren't a Christian. Before I converted I pretty much believed the same way as Oprah, Obama etc.. I believed that people of other religions were worshipping God just calling Him by different names and that it was good enough for Him. I wasn't a Christian but called myself one and truly believed I was one and would have been very offended if someone had said I wasn't. I was a nominal Christian, a Christian in name only. My lifestyle and ways of thinking showed me that I wasn't a true Chrisitian and I wasn't able to see that until I converted. I believe that she truly believes that she is a Christian but a more open-minded, modern one. Like those of us here that have converted, just like us she has to find out that He is God and that He is the only way to the Father,heaven and true peace. I think she's searching for Him which is a good thing. Hopefully she will come to know Him as her Savior and converts and lives her life as a true believer.
PinkPebbles
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I think that sometimes the message "God is a jealous God" can be taken out of context.
God is not jealous of "us" or our "worldly possessions." God wants us to be blessed in every aspect of our lives. On the contrary, as a Christian, God does not want us worshipping molten images and materialistic things. He wants to be glorified and honored because He created all things. Therefore, we should worship the Creator (God) and not the creation.
I think that sometimes the message "God is a jealous God" can be taken out of context.
God is not jealous of "us" or our "worldly possessions." God wants us to be blessed in every aspect of our lives. On the contrary, as a Christian, God does not want us worshipping molten images and materialistic things. He wants to be glorified and honored because He created all things. Therefore, we should worship the Creator (God) and not the creation.
metamorfhosis
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Made me think of this scripture......
John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Made me think of this scripture......
John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
SweetlyBlessed
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That's what I always thought. That she was not being specific or denying others' ways because of who she is and her large following (no pun intended). That she was being careful with what she said however, that seems to backfire because at the same time it's like she's denouncing.
That's what I always thought. That she was not being specific or denying others' ways because of who she is and her large following (no pun intended). That she was being careful with what she said however, that seems to backfire because at the same time it's like she's denouncing.
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As I heard somebody else put it: Jesus KNOWS His ADDRESS!!!!
And honestly, I don't feel the Lord is into ambiguity. There are too many examples from the CHRISTIAN Bible where the Lord was very, VERY PRECISE regarding how to do things.
So until there's A NAME given for whatever/whichever "god" one is speaking of, we "ain't" even in the same BOOK, much less the same page.
What's your god's NAME?
As I heard somebody else put it: Jesus KNOWS His ADDRESS!!!!
And honestly, I don't feel the Lord is into ambiguity. There are too many examples from the CHRISTIAN Bible where the Lord was very, VERY PRECISE regarding how to do things.
So until there's A NAME given for whatever/whichever "god" one is speaking of, we "ain't" even in the same BOOK, much less the same page.
What's your god's NAME?
Hair Iam
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I have to agree
I have to agree
Zeal
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I actaully feel sick to my stomach right now. I knew that something wasn't right with her a few years ago when she started that spritual "thing" on her show a few years ago.
What make Oprah think God is jealous of her? She does not know what that scripture means. It means don't put anything before him.. Not your boyfriend, your husband or even your Pastor. That is what he is jealous of. This saddens my spirit and heart. Many are called, few are chosen and she is acting like she is not chosen.
We are definately in the last days. The fact that the govt wants to start a Dept. of peace is a sure sign.
Let's all add Oprah to our prayer list.
I actaully feel sick to my stomach right now. I knew that something wasn't right with her a few years ago when she started that spritual "thing" on her show a few years ago.
What make Oprah think God is jealous of her? She does not know what that scripture means. It means don't put anything before him.. Not your boyfriend, your husband or even your Pastor. That is what he is jealous of. This saddens my spirit and heart. Many are called, few are chosen and she is acting like she is not chosen.
We are definately in the last days. The fact that the govt wants to start a Dept. of peace is a sure sign.
Let's all add Oprah to our prayer list.
Hair Iam
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his
his
this was powerful ...true but sad..the road is very narrow
Hair Iam
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I'm sorry I had to do this
cutiebe2
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I agree with this. I looked at the clip and I agree that she is missing point with "God is a jealous God" but I think in saying there is more than one way she is trying to respect all cultures are beleif.
I am Christian but "without following our believing", I respect different religions. I think that is especially key for Oprah was has to attract million of people from different walks of life. Saying Jesus/ God is the only way will alienate many viewer. Plus she interview tons of people with different religions and respect them too.
I agree with this. I looked at the clip and I agree that she is missing point with "God is a jealous God" but I think in saying there is more than one way she is trying to respect all cultures are beleif.
I am Christian but "without following our believing", I respect different religions. I think that is especially key for Oprah was has to attract million of people from different walks of life. Saying Jesus/ God is the only way will alienate many viewer. Plus she interview tons of people with different religions and respect them too.
godsflowerrr
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I do really like oprah although she can be a litte new age for me......toward the end of the video they mentioned obama and had his picture on the cover of that book...like he couldn't be trusted.....what does he have to do with all of this??
I do really like oprah although she can be a litte new age for me......toward the end of the video they mentioned obama and had his picture on the cover of that book...like he couldn't be trusted.....what does he have to do with all of this??
Crackers Phinn
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Because Oprah supports Obama politically and it's threatening when 2 or more black folk begin to congregate.
It's racism disguised as piety.
I do really like oprah although she can be a litte new age for me......toward the end of the video they mentioned obama and had his picture on the cover of that book...like he couldn't be trusted.....what does he have to do with all of this??
Because Oprah supports Obama politically and it's threatening when 2 or more black folk begin to congregate.
It's racism disguised as piety.
Isis
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I was just about the say something like this.
Because Oprah supports Obama politically and it's threatening when 2 or more black folk begin to congregate.
It's racism disguised as piety.
I was just about the say something like this.
Hair Iam
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You said a mouth full
You said a mouth full
blazingthru
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I agree, I thought Oprah was intelligent. But I stopped liking her a long time ago.
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