Ateeya Has Suffered a Major Setback! Tips of How to Avoid!!!

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Ediese

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I came across a thread on another board about an awful setback that Ateeya had with her sew in. I know I posted a blog with the same information, but I wanted to reiterate just in case someone new to weaves didnt' read it before. Trust me..this will save you A LOT of headache.

If you guys watch her video, please don't automatically blame this on weaves. A lot of people have had major success with wearing them. You just have to make sure that you take care of your hair and the weave, and make sure you get it properly installed and maintained.

Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqRfMbYDJ8

Weave Bible 101

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I think that I'm qualified to pass on what I've learned over the years because I started wearing glue in weaves when I was about 12. Then, I graduated to sew-ins at about 16. To think, I probably could have have WL hair by now.

Anyway, these are my lessons learned that I hope will be helpful to someone else. If anyone else has other tips, please list them, I'll compile it all to make a huge list.

1. After you take out your sew-in, DO NOT WASH YOUR HAIR before you properly detangle and get out ALL shed hair. (Trust me, you will have a MAJOR setback if you do not listen to that one rule). I learned the hard way. My cousin advised me against it, and I told her that I have that 'good' hair, so my hair will surely not tangle. Well let me tell you...as soon as water hit my hair, it formed locs and got really matted. I had to chop out huge chunks of hair.

2. Do not let the stylist braid your hair or sew in the weave too tight. You'll know because aside from the major migraine that you'll experience, you'll see a lot of white bulbs on the tip of many strands along your hairline. This means that hair has been pulled out because of the tension. Also, tiny bumps will form in the back of your head. Silly me...I already know this, but I'm suffering from this right now. I need to listen to my own advice. I have two months to nurture my hairline. http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=305697&highlight=

3.It is not recommended that you wear your install for more than three months. I wore an install for four months this year, and thankfully I took it out when it first started to matt up, so I didn't lose any hair. The longer your leave the install coupled with the frequent washing + airdrying, shed hair, etc. will cause your hair to matt up over time.

4. Do not trust just ANYONE to take out your install. I always take out my installs by myself. I can't say that I don't trust her, but I don't even let my sister take it out. This way, if I happen to mistakenly cut my hair...oh well...at least I was the one that did it. Also, I'm much more patient, and can afford to take the extra 2+ hours to carefully take it down. I doubt a stylist will be that careful.

5. If you are planning to leave your install in for three months, you might want to rethink frequent washing and cowashing. I usually wash once per week, but sometimes I change it up to once every two weeks. Again, frequent washing and airdrying, product buildup, etc, might cause your hair to get matted..eer on the side of caution. (this is especially true for those with natural hair)

6. If you are getting a full sew-in with no hair left out, ask your stylist not to braid the baby hairs or the really short strands around your hairline. Trust me..this is the first time that I've had a full head sew-in with everything braided, and my hairline is missing. She braided every strand, and now I"m having to baby that area.

7. It is normal for you to see lots of hair in your comb after you take out your sew-in. Remember, you did have your hair braided for x time, and what you're seeing is most likely shed hair.

8. Try to do a protein treatment prior to the sew-in, and when you take it down. This helps to strengthen your hair.

9. It's also recommended that you at least wait 1-2 weeks before you reinstall another sew-in. This gives you an opportunity to give your real hair that much needed TLC.

10. Have fun with your weave! Remember there are so many different styles that you can achieve with a weave without damaging your real hair. Do you want some blonde highlights, a curly or wet n' wavy look, or perhaps a pixie cut? Go ahead, and weave it up! Um..you might want to stick with something that will look more natural though. If you're 4a or 4b, you might want to stay about from silky straight hair.

11. Oh yeah...please stop patting your weave in public! If you haven't noticed, the whole weave moves like it's a wig.

12. If you're relaxed, this is a good way to stretch your relaxers. You don't have to keep relaxing your entire head when you take down an install. If it's going to be braided up anyway, what's the point?

13. Do NOT use hair glue unless you want to be permanently bald, hair glue is a no no. (tip from Ms. Devo) If you're not interested in getting a sew-in weave, please try out the clip in extensions before getting a bonded weave. If you still go ahead and get bonded weave, please take all necessary steps in taking it out so you don't lose hair in the process.


14. Tips on washing hair while you have a weave:
I picked up this great tip from someone on BHM. Put your shampoo, conditioner, deep conditioner in separate water/applicator bottles. Dilute it with water, and pour it over your head so it reaches your braids. Gently massage your scalp, and rinse thoroughly. This works great!

15. This is the regimen that I follow when I have my sew-in. Remember I switch it up, and sometimes only wash every two weeks.
Wash 1x week with Creme of Nature (white bottle with green cap)
Condition w/ Mane N Tail
DC 1x week Pantene Pro V relaxed and natural dc mask (really good slip)
Leave in conditioner - Infusium 23
Moisturize every day by spraying a glyercin and water mix to by braids and to the hair that's left out. I also seal the ends of the hair that's left out with castor oil.
Clarify 1x month w/Suave clarifying shampoo

16. What are good brand weaves?
Inexpensive
Beauty Supply Store brands
Sensational Premium Now
Sensational Outre Goddess Remi

A little more Expensive, but very worth it (You can reuse these. Google them to find them on the net)

Extensions Plus relaxed texture
Halleys Curls relaxed texture
Wagmans
Indique
Belle Noir

17. If you can't (or won't) spend the time DAILY to blend your real hair and the weave hair ............get a FULL HEAD weave (where all of your real hair to tuck out of sight)! Walking around with two different textures or colors...not only scream WEAVE it also is just plain tacky! (Tip by CurliDiva)

18. Buy vent brush or comb with you and USE IT regularly! A weave needs to be styled (either with a comb, brush or my your hands). Do not walk around with a tangled head of yaki hair that looks like you haven't touch it since you rolled out of bed. (Tip by CurliDiva)

19. It is possible to wear a "glued" weave without losing hair - but I definitely would not recommend using that nasty black glue (grey bottle with red tip). If you want a glued weave use Liquid Gold with Airflex strips. I did that with no problem at all. (Tip by Soulie)

20. To remove a sewn weave - don't use scissors - use a seam ripper to break the thread, then use a bobby pin, comb tail, or fingernail to pick the thread out. It takes a little longer, but there is no cut hair. (Tip by Soulie)

21. Invest in quality hair such as Extensions Plus, Nature Girl or Wagmans. All of them maintain their quality over time (even can be reused). This will reduce the amount of tugging against your own braids from attempting to detangle. (Tip by Soulie)

22. Excellent Post! Another thing I would personally like to add is wait at least 7-10 days after taking out your install before geting a touch up relaxer. For the same reason as number 9. (Tip by Bermudabeauty)

23. Tips on blending natural/transitioning hair with weave. If you bought a curly/kinky weave and you're transitioning, you might want to try using flexi rods or trying a braidout on the hair that you left out. That will help blend your hair with the weave. If you bought a straight weave, you'll more than likely have to constantly straighten it so that it blends in with the weave.
 
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heyfranz

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Well after watching her youtubes it didn't seem to me that she had healthy hair practices and at times i wondered how she was keeping it on her head

ETA: I just watched the video. I wanted to cry and give her a hug. That is just awful! I remember treating my hair like that before LHCF.
 
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brownelovely

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I love her videos but I noticed that I didn't really see her practicing any of the routine weave care tips that are recommended. My hair came out great! I had great growth and thickness so I think it's all in how you care for your hair underneath along with the time you keep it in. Thanks for posting the tips.
 

SmartyPants

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I knew she was going to have a problem as soon as I heard her say she was going to put conditioner on and she didn't say one word about detangling!
 

Odd One

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woaaah... i feel bad for her...but she is silly for not detangling before washing the hair :nono:

even myself who had sew-ins/braids for years(pre lhcf) never took care of my hair underneath(i know...) but one thing i always did was detangling before washing!!!

ETA: ARGH just got finished watching the video and i don't think she learned her lesson... she keeps talking about how not to shampoo it and yada yada still no talk about detangling.. oh well
 
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PinkSkates

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Well after watching her youtubes it didn't seem to me that she had healthy hair practices and at times i wondered how she was keeping it on her head

And her hair never shows any length retention. If you are actively taking good care of your hair, then we should see evidence of growth retention.
 

SmartyPants

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And her hair never shows any length retention. If you are actively taking good care of your hair, then we should see evidence of growth retention.


I think she consciously kept her hair trimmed at that length. Even the sew-ins and wigs she wears are not much longer than the length of her hair.
 

*Frisky*

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OMG!! I am still in shock at all that hair that came out!! I feel bad for her...her hair was doing well. I was hoping when she took out the weave that it wouldn't be any issues. Hopefully she can get it back on track and get it to growing healthy again.
 

Ediese

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Okay ladies...please remember that this is not a bashing Ateeya thread. This is just to show you what not to do when wearing weaves, so you don't suffer the same misfortune.

Thanks for responding!! Please remember to properly detangle FIRST!! Do not rush to add products, and wash your hair when you take your weave down. Your hair WILL MATT!! You must first DETANGLE. Make sure you get out ALL the shed hair that accumulated for the period that you wore the sew-in. It will be okay to wash after you do that.
 
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AtlantaJJ

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That is so sad...this is a good post for members here so that we don't end up making the same mistake!
 

TCatt86

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OMG!!! I can't believe she lost that much hair I would have cried. Thanks for the advice.
 

Ediese

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Wow, that is horrible.
I've been considering a sew-in, but this video might make me reconsider.


I hope you don't reconsider because of this. I've been wearing weaves for quite some time, and this has happened to me before when I didn't know any better. That's the reason behind the tips I posted. You guys can learn from our mistakes. If a weave is properly installed, maintained, and taken down, you will not have a bad experience. What happened to her is preventable.
 

Platinum

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Wow. I'm surprised she didn't detangle first.:perplexed Toward the end of the video, I was hoping she would have mentioned to her viewers about the importance of detangling before washing. I'm surprised she didn't lose more hair than that.

I wouldn't wish a setback on anybody. I feel bad for her.
 

MochaEyeCandy

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The only thing I find surprising is that she's got such a huge following. Her hair practices are terrible. I feel bad for the girl, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't expecting this video.
 

Ediese

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woaaah... i feel bad for her...but she is silly for not detangling before washing the hair :nono:

even myself who had sew-ins/braids for years(pre lhcf) never took care of my hair underneath(i know...) but one thing i always did was detangling before washing!!!

ETA: ARGH just got finished watching the video and i don't think she learned her lesson... she keeps talking about how not to shampoo it and yada yada still no talk about detangling.. oh well

I kept shaking my head at the bolded. She's not telling her subscribers the correct reason that it happened. I think her stylist told her that the reason it happened was because how she massaged it in a circular motion. :wallbash: I left a comment stating otherwise along with a link to the tips I posted here. Hopefully, she'll let her subscribers know if she does a new video because she's not giving correct information.
 
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RedVelvet310

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Thank you so much for this! I'm planning on getting a full install at the end of the summer for school next year and I want to make sure I experience GROWTH not breakage! I think it's time LHCF got a separate forum for Weave/Hair Extensions and make information like this a sticky.. there are so many questions I have about weaves and its so difficult searching for them on the General Hair Talk board and asking questions gets quickly flooded out by the amount of new Hair Care threads that are constantly being made and bumped :ohwell:. I'd also feel much comfortable asking you ladies weave questions rather then registering at BHM and having to do it there.

I'm also sorry to hear about Ateyaaa's setback... she seems like she knows what makes her hair grow so hopefully everything will be alright for her. :yep:
 

Ediese

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How do you take a full sew on weave off by yourself?

I don't really think there is a science behind it. I usually just use a pair of scissors to cut the thread. Once all the thread is gone, the tracks come off. From there, you can easily take down the braids. Hopefully, if someone else does it another way, they can post.
 

MummysGirl

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Yikes... I'd have bawled my eyes out!

Hopefully ladies who do weaves will learn from this. Very nice of you to put up the tips as well.

P.S. I've suffered a similar setback too and it had absolutely nothing to do with weaves, I had areas of hair that suffered from severe breakage so I had different lengths of hair. I went from past APL to SL and I wasn't as calm as she was initially... I calmed down eventually but it wasn't easy.
 
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Cien

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wow....

I really like Ateeya~~and I'm sorry that she experienced this horrible setback!!! :(

She lost a LOT of hair!!!
Over the years, I too, have experienced major setbacks with my hair so I know the feeling.

But like the soldier she appears to be...she is taking it all in stride!!!!

Hell, I've had my hair shaved before after a setback.
It's hair!~~ it'll grow back!!

---great tips btw!!
 

Saffirejuiliet

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This is very sad. :sad: Shedded hair, especially over a long period of time, can be the debil for hair if it is not manually taken out. I have been there and learn that lesson. I hope she will be able to bounce back for the setback. Great thread Ediese.
 
Ediese, thanks for posting this. I watched the video too and I would NOT have been brave enough to do a video showing the aftermath for the whole world to see. I think before we start getting on her about her hair practices, take into consideration that we all have LHCF and members like Ediese who get sew-ins on the regular and know the way to take a weave down properly. She stated in the video that she didn't know to do that hence the matting and the tangles. Her stylist didn't seem to tell her either, he just told her not to do it on her own. As far as her other practices, she always says that these things are what work for her hair. I think it's good to remember that everything isn't for everybody and some of the things you do may not work for someone else. I just commend her for doing the video in the first place b/c she really didn't have to and if it was me, my subscribers would've gotten a verbal summary and a new install video. I would've been too upset to post it. I believe she will bounce back though and I hope she stays encouraged, she was having good progress.
 

jaszymeen

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I knew she was going to have a problem as soon as I heard her say she was going to put conditioner on and she didn't say one word about detangling!


i noticed that b4 i even read anything. she said i'm gonna condition my hair and then pulled it back into a pony:perplexed. the 1ST thing i do when i take out my sew in is detangle slowly and gentle to get all the shed hair and thread out. after i do that i put shampoo on the sectioned parts and scalp and then i wash out. after that i do another detangling and then deep condition and let it air dry til i figure out what im going to do with my hair next lol.
 
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*Happily Me*

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ok, my hair mats like that all the time esp if i don't comb it in a few day. She didn't need to cut that piece. :nono:. I'd be bald if i cut out every dread!
 
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