Kirk Franklin speaks on Kanye West new album titled "Yeezus"

[Shimmie]

What about people who name their children Jesus (pronounced the Spanish way) or Jesu. I personally think that they are really nice names.

I think that Kanye is probably going through his own personal and spiritual battle. Some of his songs can attest to that.

I often wonder about people who name their children "Jesus" (pronounced 'Ha zous'). You've posed a good question. Now you have me thinking about it.

As for Kanye, you have compassion for him...

Me on the other hand...........

Kanye has the answer to his struggles and that's total surrender to Jesus.

Right now, he's playing spiritual games and he doesn't have to. Kanye is a very strong willed individual who is 'choosing' his life's pattern when he doesn't have to.

He is choosing to live 'like he wanna' live'. However, like a dead branch, he is not producing fruit for God's Kingdom, his grapevines are leased to satan. He's leading others to hell and could care less.

John 15:5-8

“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

 

[Shimmie]

Shimmie, I can't with you....I read some of the stuff in the other thread and my stomach hurts. I keeping my word of seeking solutions only and staying out of this....

Nice Lady

What's the 'other thread' that you are referring to?

 

[Nice Lady]

@Nice Lady

What's the 'other thread' that you are referring to?

Shimmie, it doesn't matter. Your pics were funny. It's not that serious. I don't want to derail the thread at all. It's irrelevant.

 

[Shimmie]

I wonder if kirk still had that porn addition?

*sigh* I hope not...

God has blessed him with such a beautiful wife and family. Even more, with all that God has to give, far and above pornography, he has no reason to stray back into that direction.

I won't call it bondage, because in Christ Jesus, he has been made free from it all, there's no reason to go back to it. No reason for him to have been there in the first place?

I don't get it. Who wants to look at another naked man or woman other than the who one is married to ? It makes no sense to me. I'm not a prude, however it makes no sense that folks do this; especially those who are married and those in Christ.

And I so serious with this question. And the devil cannot be blamed (i.e., no one can use the devil to justify it).

 

[mensa]

Pink lips

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Pink lips.....

 

[mensa]

I feel so sorry for Kanye and Kim's baby. What a horrible home for this child to be raised in. That child will need much prayer.

 

[delitefulmane]

My main issues with that interview were firstly his somewhat problematic interpretation of John 4 (the woman at the well). .

This is what bothered me too. I understand when people sometimes paraphrase scriptures in the bible, but hearing his interpretation of this scripture did not sit well with me. I was like erplexed. . If you are going to use scripture, keep within the confines of the context! Don't craft it to fit your own agenda.

 

[momi]

I feel so sorry for Kanye and Kim's baby. What a horrible home for this child to be raised in. That child will need much prayer.

Agreed... for so many reasons. Thanks for bringing this up - I will be sure to remember this child in prayer.

 

[MrsHaseeb]

What about people who name their children Jesus (pronounced the Spanish way) or Jesu. I personally think that they are really nice names.

I think that Kanye is probably going through his own personal and spiritual battle. Some of his songs can attest to that.

The name Jesus itself is pretty common. Jesus was not the only Jesus even in the Bible. There is, however, only one Jesus Christ (Barabbas was named Jesus and Paul referred to another guy name Jesus who was called Justus). The power isn't just in the name but rather the authority. So Spanish people naming their child Jesus is not the same as what Kanye is doing. He is intentionally being blasphemous. How do we know? I heard him say in an interview that he would be in the Bible if it was written today because he is more important than Jesus... Abominable words from a man who thinks he's a god.

 

[Shimmie]

The name Jesus itself is pretty common. Jesus was not the only Jesus even in the Bible. There is, however, only one Jesus Christ (Barabbas was named Jesus and Paul referred to another guy name Jesus who was called Justus). The power isn't just in the name but rather the authority.

So Spanish people naming their child Jesus

...is not the same as what Kanye is doing. He is intentionally being blasphemous. How do we know?

I heard him say in an interview that he would be in the Bible if it was written today because he is more important than Jesus...

Abominable words from a man who thinks he's a god.

What?????? !!! ???

What kind of 'ratchet' mess is that? He's dun gone clear out his mind. Talk about ego?

Now see, satan tried to pull this and ended up being kicked outta Heaven. he and his fool self said... "I will go and I will take over the throne of God and I will be greater than God...."

Back in the Old Testament, Kanye would have gotten 'instant' judgment and ended up either fried or as a pillar of salt...

 

[Nice & Wavy]

What?????? !!! ???

What kind of 'ratchet' mess is that? He's dun gone clear out his mind. Talk about ego?

Now see, satan tried to pull this and ended up being kicked outta Heaven. he and his fool self said... "I will go and I will take over the throne of God and I will be greater than God...."

Back in the Old Testament, Kanye would have gotten 'instant' judgment and ended up either fried or as a pillar of salt...

Look at this hot mess.... and he isn't the only one...

http://www.clarkyboy.com/kanyewest.htm

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]First he brought us Jesus Walks; then college dropout Kanye West courted controversy by appearing on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine as Jesus Christ himself. Now he is apparently claiming that he should be a character in The Bible. Is Kanye making a valid point by portraying himself as a black Jesus?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Covered in blood, Kanye West is shown wearing a crown of thorns on his head in the deliberately provocative picture by photographer David LaChapelle. Amazingly, Kanye claims that his life is similar to Christ's, saying that he has had to fight for recognition and suffer for success. "If I was more complacent and started to let things slide, my life would be easier, but you all wouldn't be as entertained. My misery is your pleasure", he is quoted as saying.

The Boston Globe sums up the views of many when it says: "The idea that West, a 27-year-old rapper who's a millionaire many times over, is somehow persecuted is preposterous. Rolling Stone is trying to sell a few more mags by posing Kanye West as Christ on the cover... Here's hoping it doesn't work."

The Baltimore Sun says: "Perhaps he meant it as a symbol of personal suffering. Maybe he wanted to present young hip-hop heads with an updated image of the Son of God. Whatever his motives, Kanye West again has accomplished what he set out to do: Get people to talk."

In his interview with Rolling Stone, Kanye confesses that he suffers from an addiction to porn. He remembers first seeing his father's Playboy magazine when he was five years old. "It was like, 'Houston, we have a problem.'"[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kanye West by David LaChapelle[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kanye West thinks he should be in The Bible. "I bring up historical subjects in a way that makes kids want to learn about them. I'm an inspirational speaker. I changed the sound of music more than one time… For all those reasons, I'd be a part of the Bible" claims Kanye. However, if you read Numbers 22:28-30 you'll see The Bible already has a talking *** — does it need another?


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[Nice & Wavy]

The name Jesus itself is pretty common. Jesus was not the only Jesus even in the Bible. There is, however, only one Jesus Christ (Barabbas was named Jesus and Paul referred to another guy name Jesus who was called Justus). The power isn't just in the name but rather the authority. So Spanish people naming their child Jesus is not the same as what Kanye is doing. He is intentionally being blasphemous. How do we know? I heard him say in an interview that he would be in the Bible if it was written today because he is more important than Jesus... Abominable words from a man who thinks he's a god.

He is being deceived like many people in the entertainment industry.

 

[Shimmie]

Look at this hot mess.... and he isn't the only one...

http://www.clarkyboy.com/kanyewest.htm

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]First he brought us Jesus Walks; then college dropout Kanye West courted controversy by appearing on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine as Jesus Christ himself. Now he is apparently claiming that he should be a character in The Bible. Is Kanye making a valid point by portraying himself as a black Jesus?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Covered in blood, Kanye West is shown wearing a crown of thorns on his head in the deliberately provocative picture by photographer David LaChapelle. Amazingly, Kanye claims that his life is similar to Christ's, saying that he has had to fight for recognition and suffer for success. "If I was more complacent and started to let things slide, my life would be easier, but you all wouldn't be as entertained. My misery is your pleasure", he is quoted as saying.

The Boston Globe sums up the views of many when it says: "The idea that West, a 27-year-old rapper who's a millionaire many times over, is somehow persecuted is preposterous. Rolling Stone is trying to sell a few more mags by posing Kanye West as Christ on the cover... Here's hoping it doesn't work."

The Baltimore Sun says: "Perhaps he meant it as a symbol of personal suffering. Maybe he wanted to present young hip-hop heads with an updated image of the Son of God. Whatever his motives, Kanye West again has accomplished what he set out to do: Get people to talk."

In his interview with Rolling Stone, Kanye confesses that he suffers from an addiction to porn. He remembers first seeing his father's Playboy magazine when he was five years old. "It was like, 'Houston, we have a problem.'"[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kanye West by David LaChapelle[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kanye West thinks he should be in The Bible. "I bring up historical subjects in a way that makes kids want to learn about them. I'm an inspirational speaker. I changed the sound of music more than one time… For all those reasons, I'd be a part of the Bible" claims Kanye. However, if you read Numbers 22:28-30 you'll see The Bible already has a talking *** — does it need another?


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But Sis, this man is ONLY 27 years old ?????

Do you know that I have never heard any of his songs? And he's a multi-millionaire? erplexed

That money is does not belong to him.... I claim it for the Body of Christ to do the Will of God and not Kanye's foolishness. He needs to grow up and get right with God instead of mocking God.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

But Sis, this man is ONLY 27 years old ?????

Do you know that I have never heard any of his songs? And he's a multi-millionaire? erplexed

That money is does not belong to him.... I claim it for the Body of Christ to do the Will of God and not Kanye's foolishness. He needs to grow up and get right with God instead of mocking God.

I know...he is young and so sad.....

If you look at the link, you will see the others who also did something like this...crazy...

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Off topic: Shimme, I love your siggy picture...how he is praying with his bride to be before they say I do....beautiful!!!

 

[Shimmie]

Off topic: Shimme, I love your siggy picture...how he is praying with his bride to be before they say I do....beautiful!!!

I added the link to the entire picture story leading up to their prayer.

Back on Topic: Now this is the REAL Jesus in action. In the center of Marriage and it's true meaning. He is welcomed into their lives, their hearts, their Marriage of their own free will.

Kanye and em' betta' learn something. They betta' learn who Jesus is and where He is truly found.

 

[disgtgyal]

Honestly I feel sorry for kanye, from my understanding he hasn't been the same since his mother died. I honestly don't think he really believe what he says as far as being god and better than Jesus to me it comes off as a defense mechanism/ coping device I see a very insecure man who tries to create this persona so that no one sees the real him. As for kirk he's someone that hasn't sat right with well before I got serious with my walk, I don't know what exactly it is but but it felt like something is insincere about him, and what sealed it for me was when he was on Oprah with his wife. I remember Oprah asked him about gay marriage and he said something to the effect of love is from god and god is love I just smh. I always felt like he tried to take/ embrace the culture of the world mainly hip-hop and make it godly kinda like see young ppl I'm cool too. He has too big a platform to mince words and dance around issues, however I do feel he should speak to kanye privately but he can say publicly he doesn't support the album and it's content.