UK School to Put Witchcraft & Druids on Religious Education Syllabus

[Crown]

There IS casting out demons in the movie. Yes. They prevent vampires from demonizing others.

I don't think so!
I did not see the movie. No interest. But, since this thread, I have asked questions.
No zest of Christianity at all.
Just because they present good vampires and bad vampires and werewolves that does not mean it is Christianity.

From a Christian point of view, casting out demons on a vampire or a werewolf would mean no more vampire or werewolf. This is not the case in this movie.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

That was a "yes"/ "no" question. Did people know the Teachings of Christ before Christ's existence?

Christ always existed, there were teachings of God before Christ was born of woman.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

That was a "yes"/ "no" question. Did people know the Teachings of Christ before Christ's existence?

He always existed.

All the prophecies of old spoke of Christ. When mankind fell in the garden, the plan of redemption was already spoken/announced in Genesis 3:15, The coming Messiah that would redeem mankind back to God.

Genesis 3:14-15
14 The LORD God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”

The He is Christ, the coming One that would destroy the works of the devil and redeem mankind back to God.

Once again.....No excuses.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Rom 1:20

 

[JeterCrazed]

I don't think so!
I did not see the movie. No interest. But, since this thread, I have asked questions.
No zest of Christianity at all.
Just because they present good vampires and bad vampires and werewolves that does not mean it is Christianity.

From a Christian point of view, casting out demons on a vampire or a werewolf would mean no more vampire or werewolf. This is not the case in this movie.

That was the case in the movie in many scenes. Watch the movie and then we can talk about the movie. When someone who has seen the movie has something of substance to say, I will discuss it. Period.

Study the origins of Vampires. Their existence is not for me to debate as previously implied by Shimmie. There are Christians who believe in them. If you asked a devout Christian from Haiti if they believed in Zombies, they may affirm. I know a few who do.

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[JeterCrazed]

He always existed.

All the prophecies of old spoke of Christ. When mankind fell in the garden, the plan of redemption was already spoken/announced in Genesis 3:15, The coming Messiah that would redeem mankind back to God.

Genesis 3:14-15
14 The LORD God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”

The He is Christ, the coming One that would destroy the works of the devil and redeem mankind back to God.

Once again.....No excuses.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Rom 1:20

One question, no answer. The question was about teachings. Is English your first language? Maybe there's a language barrier?

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[Crown]

That was the case in the movie in many scenes. Watch the movie and then we can talk about the movie. When someone who has seen the movie has something of substance to say, I will discuss it. Period.

Study the origins of Vampires. Their existence is not for me to debate as previously implied by Shimmie. There are Christians who believe in them. If you asked a devout Christian from Haiti if they believed in Zombies, they may affirm. I know a few who do.

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Vampires and Zombies are not the same.

We are not talking about their existence, but how the movie is related to Christianity.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

One question, no answer. The question was about teachings. Is English your first language? Maybe there's a language barrier?

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Jeter,

I agree with you here there seems to be language barrier, you seem to be speaking a language that we don't understand.

 

[JeterCrazed]

Vampires and Zombies are not the same.

We are not talking about their existence, but how the movie is related to Christianity.

Absolutely not the same. Some people believe in one or the other who proclaim to be Christian.

I explained how the movie relates. How there's resistance about my statement from people who haven't seen the movie, I dunno.

ETA: There are a dozen blogs from Christians who support the movie....who actually watched it and have a valid opinion.

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[JeterCrazed]

Jeter,

I agree with you here there seems to be language barrier, you seem to be speaking a language that we don't understand.

English is the official language of the United States of America.

ETA: And there you go with "we". You'll get a "thanks" soon. Don't worry.
Where's Horace?

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[Iwanthealthyhair67]

you said that the origin of the word amen is pagan, God is the Amen, so basically you are saying that He is pagan...

If you are not saying (and I really hope you are not) that Almighty God, the Amen is pagan what are you saying exactly?

 

[Rainbow Dash]

One question, no answer. The question was about teachings. Is English your first language? Maybe there's a language barrier?

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Why you gotta act like that? You hear me...


Christ's teachings are not separate from God. He is God. God is not divided.

The answer is Yes, Christ is God in flesh. God among Us. Emmanuel..They are one.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17

The first prophecy about the coming of Christ was spoken to the only 2 humans around at the time. Adam and Eve

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

English is the official language of the United States of America.

ETA: And there you go with "we". You'll get a "thanks" soon. Don't worry.
Where's Horace?

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Thanks? Thanks be to Almighty God even in school I was not popular. As far as English speaking my country was ruled by England for many years, we only recently gained our independence, english is the official language here also.

As for Horace, he is where all false gods are.

 

[JeterCrazed]

you said that the origin of the word amen is pagan, God is the Amen, so basically you are saying that He is pagan...

If you are not saying (and I really hope you are not) that Almighty God, the Amen is pagan what are you saying exactly?

Ahhhh... Jumping to conclusions. At least now you're asking questions. The word Amen is of origins that have nothing to do with Christianity. Tutankhamen was called so because he had "devine right." Amen-let it be so. This is not a word exclusive to Christianity. It did not become so at the time the bible was written. History is history. This is not about theology.

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[JeterCrazed]

Why you gotta act like that? You hear me...

Christ's teachings are not separate from God. He is God. God is not divided.

The answer is Yes, Christ is God in flesh. God among Us. Emmanuel..They are one.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17

The first prophecy about the coming of Christ was spoken to the only 2 humans around at the time. Adam and Eve

What teachings did people already know? What practices did they observe before Christ ever spoke?

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[Rainbow Dash]

What teachings did people already know? What practices did they observe before Christ ever spoke?

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That God is God and there are no others. Period.


For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Rom 1:20

 

[JeterCrazed]

That God is God and there are no others. Period.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Rom 1:20

Ok. I'm done with you. You can't answer questions directly for whatever reason. Your responses aren't conducive to intelligent conversation.

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[Iwanthealthyhair67]

Ahhhh... Jumping to conclusions. At least now you're asking questions. The word Amen is of origins that have nothing to do with Christianity. Tutankhamen was called so because he had "devine right." Amen-let it be so. This is not a word exclusive to Christianity. It did not become so at the time the bible was written. History is history. This is not about theology.

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Tutankhamen, Amen-rah dribble. God is and always was.

 

[JeterCrazed]

Tutankhamen, Amen-rah dribble. God is and always was.

Tutankhamen is not dribble.

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[Rainbow Dash]

Ok. I'm done with you. You can't answer questions directly for whatever reason. Your responses aren't conducive to intelligent conversation.

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So now you want to insult my intelligence....when we are all trying to understand yours. You are the one that's not making sense.

Christ's teachings all lead to God!!

You want to separate Christ from God and you can't. Scripture speaks the TRUTH and you want to have an excuse to stay in darkness. That's all.

 

[JeterCrazed]

So now you want to insult my intelligence....when we are all trying to understand yours. You are the one that's not making sense.

Christ's teachings all lead to God!!

You want to separate Christ from God and you can't. Scripture speaks the TRUTH and you want to have an excuse to stay in darkness. That's all.

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[Rainbow Dash]

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I know, it's too much...huh? The word of God is powerful...huh?

Have a good night.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

Tutankhamen is not dribble.

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Okay, just a false god.

 

[JeterCrazed]

Okay, just a false god.

Tutenkhamen was not a God. He was a king. This is elementary school education. What a shame.

ETA: This is why this needs to be taught in school. Children cannot be left to the ignorance of parents. Tutenkhamen a God.... Turrble.

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[CoilyFields]

JeterCrazed

Lemme see if I understand your point

Are you saying Christianity has pagan roots or involves pagan derived rituals? (which one? or both?)

And because of this (one/both of the above statements) Paganism should be taught in schools.

If the above are your correct views, how do you see this being taught? Would pagansim be taught in relation to Christianity (and possibly other religions)? or as its own religion but no connections made between it and others?

And your personal thought...do you believe that the pagan "roots etc." detract from the legitimacy of Christianity?

Sidenote: LIL GURL!!! lol! Why do I have the feeling that your comments are filtering through a dry-witted slick mouth that comes off as inciteful (especially over the internet) but that just might be the way you express yourself? Be nice and behave when you reply Jeter!

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

um didn't Tut changed his name from 'haten' to 'hamen', which translates to and egyptian god, that's equivalent to a false god in my opinion.

Tutenkhamen was not a God. He was a king. This is elementary school education. What a shame.

ETA: This is why this needs to be taught in school. Children cannot be left to the ignorance of parents. Tutenkhamen a God.... Turrble.

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[LucieLoo12]

Titus 3:10-11

New International Version (NIV)

Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Titus 3:10-11

New International Version (NIV)

Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

Wisdom

This scripture came to mind last night. Also being careful not to respond out of the flesh, like I did last night.

You live, learn and thank God for the correction.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

lol, out of the mouth of witnesses God confirms his word, Amen!!!!!

 

[Shimmie]

Titus 3:10-11

New International Version (NIV)

Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

Last night I placed the comments on 'ignore'. I had to... and then just pray for understanding.

 

[MissMasala5]

Coming out of lurk mode to say that this conversation can be had without insults. It is an interesting topic regardless of one's beliefs, or lack of. That said, I think that the movie Twilight isn't the best example here. A better one is the show Being Human. The entire premise is based around these monsters, through no fault of their own (each was attacked and got their "curse", "virus" or whatever) have to come to grips with the fact that they are monsters, all the while trying to preserve their sense of humanity. At some point, they feel as if God has abandoned them and they feel that they shouldn't fight their natures, and simply give up trying to "be human" and march to the devil, willingly. But that small spark of their humanities always seems to trump that.

This story, while fiction, makes me think about the very human struggle that all people have in their day-to-day existences. For some, the monsters are all to real. They come in the form of rapists, molesters, child abusers, cheating or abusive partners and murderers. Some of these criminals actually worship God, are Christians themselves. How did they get to the point where they abandoned the Divine within them to do the most heinous acts against innocents? I hardly doubt it was because they learned about pagans and druids, or watched Harry Potter or Twilight. Evil in humans has always existed. Fiction based on humans will always exercise the fight between good and evil. Some may feel their children need protection from such stories and that is a parent's right to make that call. But they must also be aware the evil in the world exists whether or not there ever was a Jk Rowling, Stephanie Meyer or even Shakespeare, for that matter. A peek at the evening news will attest to this.

It is a fact that pagan beliefs preexisted Judism, Islam and Christianity. An excellent film about how pagans, Jews and Christians once got on together then began to fight against each other is Agora. The fights are sort of a subplot, the main story is about the female philosopher Hypatia and her being the first to put forth the theory that the planets orbit the sun in an elliptical path versus a circular one. She was labled a witch and put to death. Thousands of years later, a man named Kepler took credit for Hypatia's theory.

Factoid about vampires: The only thing close to an actual vampire in real life was the Transylvanian countess Bathory. She was in her late thirties and fell in love with a man in his early twenties. He was betrothed to another, so Bathory had her maid, a witch, make up spells and charms to keep her beloved, as well as to help her keep a youthful appearance. One day, another maid was brushing Bathory's hair and hit a snag, hurting the Countess. She struck the maid and drew blood. Some of that blood landed on the Countess's face. In a deluded state, she swore that the young maid's blood restored her youthful beauty. With the help of accomplices, Bathory killed a reputed 650 people, mostly young women, even children, and bathed in their blood. An investigation into the murders and disappearances led to Bathory's castle were bodies were found. She wasn't executed, but locked in a room without windows and mirrors. It was said that her obsession with her own vanity and not being able to see her own reflection drove her mad, and her madness ultimately killed her. It is said that this woman's bloody obsession was the one to spark the story of fictionalized vampires.