The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

BrownBetty

Well-Known Member
@naturalgyrl5199
SAY IT AGAIN!
We all know this information but folks willfully ignore it. This rush to return to prepandemic times is not realistic. What the old folks say "you gone learn that fat meat is greasy".
We know there will be break through cases, we know masks are an effective tool, we know washing your hands and social distancing work... but still people act shocked as if the vaccine is the cure and not just another tool in this battle.
I'm so tired. Lemme go reup on more mask.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Ion know how many times I gotta say vaccines aren't shields are cures.
Anyone who thought they heard the CDC say you'd be cured ain't paying attention.
We been saying a solid 6 months+ that vaccines are no more than 95% effective. Some are as low as 84%. So of the millions already vaccinated (I think we are over 100M, you got 16M who can still get infected).

I see dozens of articles here, SM and elsewhere of 1 or 2 people here, 10-20 people here who were vaccinated and still infected. Some have died.

Nobody said it wouldn't happen.
Nobody said it wouldn't happen.
Nobody, not even the CDC expected every vaccinated person to not be infected. We saw COVID survivors being re-infected in 2020---so OF COURSE the vaccinated could and would see infections in that group.

The vaccines are just here to slow down the tide. DASSIT.
That's what they told ya'll over 6 months ago. The hospitals were overrun and they want to slow it down.

Yet, all of this to the T, was predicted.

The only thing that couldn't be predicted is that a TRASH ADMIN would seriously *** it up and upturn 100 year old science based on simple principles. The human body hasn't evolved into something else in 103 years since the last pandemic. The same rules of a pandemic apply. SITCHOASSDOWN and socially distance. Hygiene, and mask up. Period.
At this point it's hopeless. When the world moves 1, 3, 5, 20 days or weeks forward there's going to be articles posted about vaccinated people sticking hundred dollar bills up Covid patients noses and inhaling the virus like Coke off a hookers :moon: then once they get sick somebody somewhere will be like "told you the vaccine don't work :rose: ".
 

sunshinebeautiful

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NCL trying to protect customers but FL says they can’t require people to be vaccinated. At least that’s how I understood that line…

Yep that's what it is. Months ago NCL was threatening to pull its business from the state of Florida because our "business friendly" governor didn't want to require any vaccinations. They don't want them problems with folks getting sick on their watch. They should do what they need to do. Take their business elsewhere.
 

Melaninme

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In the article I posted upthread, I don't recall her stating that she also wore a mask. In the article below, she says that she is fully vaccinated and that she wore a mask and still got covid from the person she was caring for.


"Sadler, who turned off the comments on her post, revealed she contracted the rapidly spreading variant while caring for an unvaccinated person who was sick with it — despite wearing a mask while in their presence."

So you were doubled protected and still got the virus? What in the world is going on here?!

 

oneastrocurlie

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In the article I posted upthread, I don't recall her stating that she also wore a mask. In the article below, she says that she is fully vaccinated and that she wore a mask and still got covid from the person she was caring for.


"Sadler, who turned off the comments on her post, revealed she contracted the rapidly spreading variant while caring for an unvaccinated person who was sick with it — despite wearing a mask while in their presence."

So you were doubled protected and still got the virus? What in the world is going on here?!


This is why I didn't understand people who were like "you're vaccinated, why should you care if other people aren't". This story is exactly why.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
So you were doubled protected and still got the virus? What in the world is going on here?!

There is a higher level of PPE needed to give care to someone with an airborne virus in a confined space vs casual brief (<15 minutes) contact in public. That is why healthcare providers wear some combination (if not all) masks, goggles, shields, gloves, shower caps, shoe covers, (basically covering their entire body). whether they come in contact with one or one hundred Covid patients as opposed to the rest of us putting on a mask to go into the grocery store. Even with all that the patient is supposed to wear a mask during contact.
 

Melaninme

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There is a higher level of PPE needed to give care to someone with an airborne virus in a confined space vs casual brief (<15 minutes) contact in public. That is why healthcare providers wear some combination (if not all) masks, goggles, shields, gloves, shower caps, shoe covers, (basically covering their entire body). whether they come in contact with one or one hundred Covid patients as opposed to the rest of us putting on a mask to go into the grocery store. Even with all that the patient is supposed to wear a mask during contact.
Ahh, thanks for the reminder. I've seen images and videos of healthcare providers doing/wearing all of what you've described above.
 

Lute

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There is a higher level of PPE needed to give care to someone with an airborne virus in a confined space vs casual brief (<15 minutes) contact in public. That is why healthcare providers wear some combination (if not all) masks, goggles, shields, gloves, shower caps, shoe covers, (basically covering their entire body). whether they come in contact with one or one hundred Covid patients as opposed to the rest of us putting on a mask to go into the grocery store. Even with all that the patient is supposed to wear a mask during contact.
This is why I cover my hair with my scarf when I'm out.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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There is a higher level of PPE needed to give care to someone with an airborne virus in a confined space vs casual brief (<15 minutes) contact in public. That is why healthcare providers wear some combination (if not all) masks, goggles, shields, gloves, shower caps, shoe covers, (basically covering their entire body). whether they come in contact with one or one hundred Covid patients as opposed to the rest of us putting on a mask to go into the grocery store. Even with all that the patient is supposed to wear a mask during contact.
THIS.
 

Melaninme

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naturalgyrl5199

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Ha, NCL needs to follow the law or take their business elsewhere, it is as simple as that.
And see...
DeSatan gone be the first one to tell those COVID-cruises they can't disembark in Florida when they come back full of sick people. Like the same boats and cruises he gave the Okay to not have vaccine or mask requirements. I don't trust him one bit. I know a girl who was stranded at sea for weeks and lost her job in 2020 because over 1/2 the cruise got COVID and DeSatan wasn't letting cruise ships dock right away. Many cruise ships were stranded at sea so long they had to come bring over some fuel, food, and supplies.

People forgot so quickly at how bad the situation was on these cruise ships last summer. NCL is just trying to avoid a disaster.
 

Melaninme

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"I do think there was a disconnect between what I was hearing from public health authorities and the reality of the situation," he said. "When I heard a statistic or health experts say things like, 'Virtually every new infection is someone who is unvaccinated,' I took that to mean that I could pretty much go back to living my life according to normal. Had I known that there were this many breakthrough cases of people contracting the virus, but maybe not ending up in the hospital, I would have continued to take more precautions."

"Being vaccinated myself, I thought that I could let my guard down. So I did things like went to Chicago Cubs games on Monday and Wednesday [last week], had a birthday happy hour outdoors with a group of friends."

But then, while out to dinner with a friend last Friday, he started experiencing symptoms."

I started feeling congested, similar to what I would feel like if I had seasonal allergies," he said. "But then after I got home I felt a little feverish. I went to sleep. The next morning I woke up with a 100.5 degree fever. So I went to the local CVS down the street from me, I received a rapid test, and about four hours later they told me I was positive for COVID."


 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
"I do think there was a disconnect between what I was hearing from public health authorities and the reality of the situation," he said. "When I heard a statistic or health experts say things like, 'Virtually every new infection is someone who is unvaccinated,' I took that to mean that I could pretty much go back to living my life according to normal. Had I known that there were this many breakthrough cases of people contracting the virus, but maybe not ending up in the hospital, I would have continued to take more precautions."

"Being vaccinated myself, I thought that I could let my guard down. So I did things like went to Chicago Cubs games on Monday and Wednesday [last week], had a birthday happy hour outdoors with a group of friends."

But then, while out to dinner with a friend last Friday, he started experiencing symptoms."

I started feeling congested, similar to what I would feel like if I had seasonal allergies," he said. "But then after I got home I felt a little feverish. I went to sleep. The next morning I woke up with a 100.5 degree fever. So I went to the local CVS down the street from me, I received a rapid test, and about four hours later they told me I was positive for COVID."


The vaccine worked. He didn’t die nor did he get hospitalized :look:

He made two problematic statements: he let his guard down and he thought he can return back to normal life because he got the vaccine. And that’s why he is in the situation he is in today.

It would be nice if the CDC did gather information about all the documented breakthrough infections. Would be more informative.
 

winterinatl

All natural!
I’m visiting in Alaska right now and these folks are walking around like none of this is happening. I still wear my mask in stores no matter what the gov says. If everything were A-Okay my school district in WA wouldn’t still be requiring we wear masks inside. So I’m going to keep following school district level precautions. And I’m very nervous about the fall.
 

sunshinebeautiful

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The vaccine worked. He didn’t die nor did he get hospitalized :look:

He made two problematic statements: he let his guard down and he thought he can return back to normal life because he got the vaccine. And that’s why he is in the situation he is in today.

It would be nice if the CDC did gather information about all the documented breakthrough infections. Would be more informative.

Right. I mean, buddy heard what he wanted to hear. :look:

Consistently, I've heard from the beginning that the vaccine does not prevent you from getting the virus. He needed to amend his own quote by adding a few words: Virtually every new infection [who died or were hospitalized] is someone who is unvaccinated.

But I'm sure it was also the unspoken influence of the "we outside" crew living like the virus has disappeared that influenced him to let his guard down as if there would be no consequences.
 
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