The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

[Melaninme]

The vaccine worked. He didn’t die nor did he get hospitalized

He made two problematic statements: he let his guard down and he thought he can return back to normal life because he got the vaccine. And that’s why he is in the situation he is in today.

It would be nice if the CDC did gather information about all the documented breakthrough infections. Would be more informative.

I guess I don't understand. CDC says on their website that all who are vaccinated can resume activities one did​

prior to the pandemic without wearing a mask or physically distancing. (sorry, don't know how to remove this bolded text).​

The below was found on their page that was updated July 16, 2021

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ETA: It seems to me that vaccinated individuals are following what CDC says that they can do and some are paying the price for following CDC maskless,
resume pre-pandemic activities call.

1) Vaccinated do not need to wear a mask
2) Vaccinated do not need to phycially distance themselves from others
3) Vaccinated can return to normal life (I.e. resume activities you did prior to the pandemic)

 

[sunshinebeautiful]

I guess I don't understand. CDC says on their website that all who are vaccinated can resume activities one did​

prior to the pandemic without wearing a mask or physically distancing. (sorry, don't know how to remove this bolded text).​

The below was found on their page that was updated July 16, 2021

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ETA: It seems to me that vaccinated individuals are following what CDC says that they can do and some are paying the price for following CDC maskless,
resume pre-pandemic activities call.

1) Vaccinated do not need to wear a mask
2) Vaccinated do not need to phycially distance themselves from others
3) Vaccinated can return to normal life (I.e. resume activities you did prior to the pandemic)

As soon as the CDC made this abrupt about face, I said to myself and continued exercising the same level of caution as before. They're hedging their bets with these breakthrough cases as long as it doesn't cause the same level of disruptions in society (i.e., hospitals and morgues being overrun) as before.

In the spirit of full transparency, I think the CDC should have added that a disclaimer (in writing) that these new guidelines do not mean that you cannot still contract COVID-19, even while vaccinated. No room for assumption or confusion.

 

[naturalyogini]

In upstate NY. I've seen virtually no masks anywhere, maybe 10%.

I got one shot, one to go next Friday and I wear my mask everywhere. Folks look at me like I'm crazy. I look at them like how do I know you're vaccinated. I assume folks aren't vaccinated. I'm wearing my mask until 2022 and beyond if necessary. I had covid and I don't want it again.

 

[lavaflow99]

As soon as the CDC made this abrupt about face, I said to myself and continued exercising the same level of caution as before. They're hedging their bets with these breakthrough cases as long as it doesn't cause the same level of disruptions in society (i.e., hospitals and morgues being overrun) as before.

In the spirit of full transparency, I think the CDC should have added that a disclaimer (in writing) that these new guidelines do not mean that you cannot still contract COVID-19, even while vaccinated. No room for assumption or confusion.

Right? Vaccinated here and I haven’t changed a thing. Still rocking with double masking for one.

I was beyond alarmed and disappointed when the CDC made these recommendations. Pandemic still here folks and the vaccination numbers aren’t enough to be rolling back precautionary measures.

The WHO recommends masking for everyone which contradicts CDC recommendations. And I have more trust in the WHO these days (as they aren’t being politicized).

CDC has pressures from the higher ups and I personally feel that some of their recommendations are only to appease Americans and get America back to “normal” as fast as possible.

And now here we are.

Cue lockdown in three, two, one……

 

[Iwander]

A lot of people already have their mind made up pro or con mask, vaccines and so pick which information to spread as fact.
I have a nurse friend that STILL tells people Covid is just the flu. She is a travel agent in one of those pyramid scheme companies so she has an agenda as well. She's always "on vacation" from Ohio to Florida most of the time with her kids. She wears a mask sometimes but often she has her babies out there raw promoting how safe it is to travel and join the pyramid agency despite covid. At the height of the pandemic she was telling people to not be afraid and travel to take advantage of travel deals.
A lot of her anti Vax friends are also nurses who have purchased their proof of vaccine nut never actually got it.
I'm all for freedom to pick but she angers me.
I'm really concerned about the wave od Pedi patients getting really sick with covid.
I remember saying early on this thing would affect all age groups and mutate and got my head chopped off lol because at the time they pushed hard with old people and preexisting conditions.
Just knowing how viruses work I suspected it would change and fast.

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

I guess I don't understand. CDC says on their website that all who are vaccinated can resume activities one did​

prior to the pandemic without wearing a mask or physically distancing. (sorry, don't know how to remove this bolded text).​

The below was found on their page that was updated July 16, 2021

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View attachment 474189​

View attachment 474191

ETA: It seems to me that vaccinated individuals are following what CDC says that they can do and some are paying the price for following CDC maskless,
resume pre-pandemic activities call.

1) Vaccinated do not need to wear a mask
2) Vaccinated do not need to phycially distance themselves from others
3) Vaccinated can return to normal life (I.e. resume activities you did prior to the pandemic)

Its bad advice. Period.
CDC have been politically contaminated since the previous admin. And there is nothing more to say about it. We all have to simply use common sense. The CDC will be changing their recommendations before the end of the summer. I guarantee.

Big fat EDIT-Sun July 18:
I reviewed that page again. My above comment made it seem like the CDC is the problem. That's not really right or fair to the CDC.

The CDC actually is giving okay advice but it wrongly assumes EVERY SINGLE unvaccinated person is honest. But the CDC has to assume so, because its job is just to give guidance based on facts. They have no authority on behaviors nor can they make a call on honesty or dishonesty, despite us all knowing better.

The REAL problem IS the UNVACCINATED and UNMASKED people who are NOT following CDC guidelines.

They (the vaccinated) aren't paying the price bc the CDC is giving bad advice...they're paying the price bc a *whole lot of* UNVACCINATED people are the ones NOT following CDC guidelines. An unmasked vaccinated person who is near another unmasked person is supposed to assume the other unmasked person is also vaccinated. That's how its "supposed" to be. But nope...you got anti-vaxxers who are ALSO anti-mask and DGAF about social distancing, carrying on because they think other unmasked people are vaccinated. So you see the problem?

We can't tweak the narrative around to make vaccines AND the CDC the problem. The science is actually sound. The problem is, and always will be behaviors. Individual behaviors.

Be unvaxxed....Be unmasked...but don't be both with bad behaviors. If you're unvaxxed, at least mask up and socially distance.

In the meantime, we'll all continue to use common sense and evidence: Vaccines aren't 100% (thats 50+ year old science/facts)--assume you may be the exception and continue to mask up and socially distance, etc.

 

[Leeda.the.Paladin]

I just saw it will be mid winter before they have vaccine approval for kids under 12.

 

[Melaninme]

Former surgeon general says CDC mask guidance 'premature' and 'wrong'

Former U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said coronavirus mask guidance may be "premature" or "wrong" in the face of potentially dangerous new variants.

www.foxnews.com

CDC should admit it was wrong and urge vaccinated Americans to wear masks again, says former surgeon general who served under Trump

Former Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams on Saturday said the CDC is being premature in lifting mask mandate, amid rise in Delta variant

www.yahoo.com

Finally!

 

[Evolving78]

Former surgeon general says CDC mask guidance 'premature' and 'wrong'

Former U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said coronavirus mask guidance may be "premature" or "wrong" in the face of potentially dangerous new variants.

www.foxnews.com

CDC should admit it was wrong and urge vaccinated Americans to wear masks again, says former surgeon general who served under Trump

Former Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams on Saturday said the CDC is being premature in lifting mask mandate, amid rise in Delta variant

www.yahoo.com

Finally!

Shame on him for what he did to the black community. I said from the jump last year that he was doing a major disservice to black people when he and the administration he was under started pushing the agenda that Covid was affecting black and brown people more and we were the ones more prone to being hospitalized and that the mortality rate was much higher for us.

 

[SoniT]

What a mess. I use my own judgment. I don't even listen to CDC at this point because they have sent out so many mixed messages. I'm vaccinated but still wear a mask.

 

[Iwander]

A lot of people already have their mind made up pro or con mask, vaccines and so pick which information to spread as fact.
I have a nurse friend that STILL tells people Covid is just the flu. She is a travel agent in one of those pyramid scheme companies so she has an agenda as well. She's always "on vacation" from Ohio to Florida most of the time with her kids. She wears a mask sometimes but often she has her babies out there raw promoting how safe it is to travel and join the pyramid agency despite covid. At the height of the pandemic she was telling people to not be afraid and travel to take advantage of travel deals.
A lot of her anti Vax friends are also nurses who have purchased their proof of vaccine nut never actually got it.
I'm all for freedom to pick but she angers me.
I'm really concerned about the wave od Pedi patients getting really sick with covid.
I remember saying early on this thing would affect all age groups and mutate and got my head chopped off lol because at the time they pushed hard with old people and preexisting conditions.
Just knowing how viruses work I suspected it would change and fast.

Like she just posted this video but when I came with the facts about the falsehoods in this video she deleted it. It took me 2 minutes to find cause of death on these people.

TikTok - Make Your Day

vm.tiktok.com

 

[sunshinebeautiful]

Over the weekend, I saw the news that 1 in every 5 new COVID-19 cases in the country is here in the state of Florida. People still traveling here to get their vacation on and I'ma be on self-imposed lockdown again.

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

Shame on him for what he did to the black community. I said from the jump last year that he was doing a major disservice to black people when he and the administration he was under started pushing the agenda that Covid was affecting black and brown people more and we were the ones more prone to being hospitalized and that the mortality rate was much higher for us.

I agree he is trash. He repeated that racist trope under the direction of the ruMP admin.

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

Over the weekend, I saw the news that 1 in every 5 new COVID-19 cases in the country is here in the state of Florida. People traveling here to get their vacation on and I'ma be on self-imposed lockdown again.

And they wonder why NCL is upset. FL continues to be a cesspool under DeSatan

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

What a mess. I use my own judgment. I don't even listen to CDC at this point because they have sent out so many mixed messages. I'm vaccinated but still wear a mask.

I had to update my comment about the CDC. The CDC is presenting the science--assuming everyone is honest. The latter, the unvaxxed who refuse to mask, is actually the problem.
But use your own judgement because of the people & their behaviors...not the CDC.

We are still feeling the results of a whole Administration who convinced a Nation that science and facts aren't real and we can have alternative facts.

 

[awhyley]

Over the weekend, I saw the news that 1 in every 5 new COVID-19 cases in the country is here in the state of Florida. People still traveling here to get their vacation on and I'ma be on self-imposed lockdown again.

You and me both. We had triple-digit infections for the first time since the pandemic lockdowns and tourists are coming here in droves.
Apparently, we have the rule in place where no tests were required if you've been vaccinated, but infections keeps going up. They're going to have to re-instate the testings again before this gets out of hand. They don't want to implement another lockdown because we're sick of it, but either way, things aren't looking good.

 

[lavaflow99]

Shame on him for what he did to the black community. I said from the jump last year that he was doing a major disservice to black people when he and the administration he was under started pushing the agenda that Covid was affecting black and brown people more and we were the ones more prone to being hospitalized and that the mortality rate was much higher for us.

Right? It's sad to see. It's almost like there is a genocide against black and brown people going on and many black/brown people aren't recognizing it.


When white folks are crossing into predominately black neighborhoods to get those elusive vaccine appointments early on in the vaccine rollout, that should have been a sign.

There is going to be a lot less of us in the coming years and that is going to be a shame.

 

[lavaflow99]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-coronavirus-blacks-vaccine/2021/05/25/1b6208da-bd6d-11eb-9c90-731aff7d9a0d_story.html

Right? It's sad to see. It's almost like there is a genocide against black and brown people going on and many black/brown people aren't recognizing it.


When white folks are crossing into predominately black neighborhoods to get those elusive vaccine appointments early on in the vaccine rollout, that should have been a sign.

There is going to be a lot less of us in the coming years and that is going to be a shame.

This is just one state/territory. So it is probably a nationwide issue

 

[Crackers Phinn]

The CDC actually is giving okay advice but it wrongly assumes EVERY SINGLE unvaccinated person is honest. But the CDC has to assume so, because its job is just to give guidance based on facts. They have no authority on behaviors nor can they make a call on honesty or dishonesty, despite us all knowing better.

The REAL problem IS the UNVACCINATED and UNMASKED people who are NOT following CDC guidelines.

Alladis

This honor system was always going to be a problem. How many people in the last few pages of this thread have said that the vaccine rate where they are at is less than 50% but when they are out 100% of people ain't wearing masks? My stance from day one of the mandates being lifted has been to assume that everybody except my husband (whose vax I witnessed) is unvaxed and a big ball of walking covid so my mask is on everywhere and I stand as far away from people as I can get.

 

[sunshinebeautiful]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-coronavirus-blacks-vaccine/2021/05/25/1b6208da-bd6d-11eb-9c90-731aff7d9a0d_story.html

This is just one state/territory. So it is probably a nationwide issue

My goodness!!! This is saddening!

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-coronavirus-blacks-vaccine/2021/05/25/1b6208da-bd6d-11eb-9c90-731aff7d9a0d_story.html

This is just one state/territory. So it is probably a nationwide issue

Man that's so sad.
My People my people.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

The same CDC makes you wear a mask on public transportation. Now one could say it's because that's close quarters but so is a packed sports stadium. They can't pick a side.

 

[BrownBetty]

I was out this weekend, folks I know for a fact who aren't vaccinated were bare naked faced, in other folks faces, sharing drinks and cigarettes... I wore my mask and folks were trying to clown me. I wouldn't hug unvaccinated folks they were upset. I responded with you made a choice and so did I. All of these folks turned down the opportunity to be vaccinated and continue to.

People are moving very selfish. They won't get the vaccine, won't mask, won't physically distance themselves. And folks won't get tested... it is all so disappointing and tiring.

I got one shot, one to go next Friday and I wear my mask everywhere. Folks look at me like I'm crazy. I look at them like how do I know you're vaccinated. I assume folks aren't vaccinated. I'm wearing my mask until 2022 and beyond if necessary. I had covid and I don't want it again.

 

[Leeda.the.Paladin]

I'm scared for the Olympics. One of the alternates on the US gymnastics team just tested positive. Cocoa Gauff (tennis) also tested positive.

 

[Leeda.the.Paladin]

An Alternate For U.S. Olympic Women's Gymnastics Tests Positive For Coronavirus

Kara Eaker is the athlete who tested positive, her mother and her gym in Missouri confirmed on Monday. The women's team is continuing to prepare for the Games, according to USA Gymnastics.

www.npr.org

 

[werenumber2]

I live in a state with one of the highest vaccination rates in the country - went to the mall this weekend and 90% of the people (maybe more) were wearing masks.

There’s such an interesting correlation between vaccines and mask wearing

 

[B_Phlyy]

I'm scared for the Olympics. One of the alternates on the US gymnastics team just tested positive. Cocoa Gauff (tennis) also tested positive.

I still think they should have just cancelled this Olympics all together. I honestly don't see all the athletes making it out unscathed in some way.

 

[lavaflow99]

So proud of my organization taking a stance!

American Academy of Pediatrics recommends masks in schools this fall

The American Academy of Pediatrics is calling the new guidance a "layered approach."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[lavaflow99]

I live in a state with one of the highest vaccination rates in the country - went to the mall this weekend and 90% of the people (maybe more) were wearing masks.

There’s such an interesting correlation between vaccines and mask wearing

Very much so. I went to Target over the weekend and I saw only two people without masks. Out of probably 25-30 folks I saw. And my state (Maryland) had 70+% vaccination rates.

So just shows that this is a deeper (ie intellect ) issue.

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

So proud of my organization taking a stance!

American Academy of Pediatrics recommends masks in schools this fall

The American Academy of Pediatrics is calling the new guidance a "layered approach."

www.nbcnews.com

This stance is good. I'm going to try and attend the next school board meeting and bring this up.