The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

dancinstallion

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Welp Colorado is another maskless state. The four of us were the only ones with masks on.
A relative that lives there said yall must not be vaccinated because your family are the only ones in here with masks on. The whole state isnt vaccinated but yet everywhere we went no one had on masks at restaurants including employees, hotels, stores, indoor gaming events, basically everywhere. :ohwell:
I really dont care that we stick out because we would stick out by being black anyway.


On the plane ride there a passenger, two seats ahead of me, kept pulling his mask down and sneezing. :mad: It woke me up because someone said Bless you really loudly because he kept sneezing.
I said to him keep your mask up!
He did it again and I called for the flight attendant and told. The attendent had a talk with him, The guy said he has allergies. I said that doesn't mean pull your mask down. Wtf
I swear i was going to disrupt the plane and cause a scene if he did it one more time. :handslap:
Guess what he didnt sneeze anymore for the rest of the flight which was 45 minutes.
I know he was spreading covid to passengers while everyone was sleeping. :nono: people are evil.
 
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sunshinebeautiful

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Welp Colorado is another maskless state. The four of us were the only ones with masks on.
A relative that lives there said yall must not be vaccinated because your family are the only ones in here with masks on. The whole state isnt vaccinated but yet everywhere we went no one had on masks at restaurants including employees, hotels, stores, indoor gaming events, basically everywhere. :ohwell:
I really dont care that we stick out because we would stick out by being black anyway.


On the plane ride there a passenger, two seats ahead of me, kept pulling his mask down and sneezing. :mad: It woke me up because someone said Bless you really loudly because he kept sneezing.
I said to him keep your mask up!
He did it again and I called for the flight attendant and told. The attendent had a talk with him, The guy said he has allergies. I said that doesn't mean pull your mask down. Wtf

I swear i was going to disrupt the plane and cause a seen if he did it one more time. :handslap:
Guess what he didnt sneeze anymore for the rest of the plane ride which was 45 minutes.
I know he was spreading covid to passengers while everyone was sleeping. :nono: people are evil.

OMG. This is so gross. And he had allergies... or so he said :nono:
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Welp Colorado is another maskless state. The four of us were the only ones with masks on.
A relative that lives there said yall must not be vaccinated because your family are the only ones in here with masks on. The whole state isnt vaccinated but yet everywhere we went no one had on masks at restaurants including employees, hotels, stores, indoor gaming events, basically everywhere. :ohwell:
I really dont care that we stick out because we would stick out by being black anyway.
I was on a call for a medical marijuana collective in Denver and the building that the collective is in advised that since Denver County had hit "redzone" Delta Variant numbers they were going to require everyone entering the office space to wear masks to protect their employees and strongly recommended that all the tenant businesses did the same. The collective owners (mainly Californians) voted that all employees go back to wearing masks regardless of vax status. Maynnn the onsite managers got real sassy over the decision talking about "well the governor isn't making anybody do it, so why do we have to follow the building?" They got told that we don't make money if they get sick so they go wear these masks so that we make money and they are big mad. :rolleyes:
 

Black Ambrosia

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I don't know how we aren't already extinct. None of what's in this article is surprising but it's shocking that so many people are so out of touch. It's one thing to be unvaccinated. It's another to put yourself in high risk settings and think you're invincible. Reminds me of something I saw online.

To :censored: around is human. To find out is divine.

They're all gonna find out.

‘What’s Covid?’ Why People at America’s Hardest-Partying Lake Are Not About to Get Vaccinated

At the Lake of the Ozarks, vaccines are shunned, masks are mocked and the long-term consequences take a back seat to the time at hand.


OSAGE BEACH, Mo.—The petite blonde bartender in ripped jean shorts bounced to each side of a square-shaped bar as women in bikinis and shirtless men lined up on a sweltering afternoon to order Bud Light, vodka and soda, and piles of nachos at this dockside retreat in the Lake of the Ozarks region.

In a county designated a Covid hot spot, in a state with one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation, and in a region where hospitals are nearing capacity as the Delta variant takes hold, Erin, a bartender at Backwater Jack’s, couldn’t be in a more vulnerable position. She interacts closely with hundreds of maskless customers—sometimes on a single day. She knows most of them are probably not vaccinated. And she doesn’t care. She isn’t either.

“I’m living, breathing proof—I’ve not been sick once. I’ve been as hands-on as you can be with people from everywhere,” Erin said, as a motorboat thundered to the dock and another group of customers climbed out. Like others who spoke for this article, she asked to go only by her first name. She said she’d heard a rumor—common among vaccine skeptics but also plainly false—that “more people are dying from getting the vaccine this week.”

“Personally,” Erin added, “I feel like my immune system is doing a good job, so why pump it full of something that we don’t really know what it is?”

Boaters dock outside Backwater Jack's on Lake of the Ozarks in Osage Beach, Mo., Saturday, July 24, 2021.

A year ago, Backwater Jack’s made national news after photos went viral of partiers packed inside the pool area, ignoring guidelines to avoid crowds and keep a distance from others. Today, as revelers laugh and toss back drinks in shallow pool water, some 600,000 deaths later, they aren’t just forgoing masks, they are forgoing the vaccine.

Talk of the vaccine draws scoffs, laughs and even cussing among the clientele. Mask-wearing, which is recommended for those not vaccinated, was virtually non-existent—and, in conversations with a flow of customers over two days, it’s clear that many are not vaccinated.

Depending on your politics, the scene at Backwater Jack’s is either a symbol of reckless abandon or unapologetic living in the face of a pandemic. It is one pole of the divide that has erupted across the country, which increasingly seems cloven into two Americas: vaxxed and unvaxxed. In the Lake of the Ozarks region, where Missourians and out-of-staters pour in to boat, fish, sunbathe and party, to be unvaxxed is a source of identity and—at times—pride, a totem of one’s independence and politics.


Bartenders serve drinks at the swim-up bar at Dog Days Bar and Grill.


Patrons swim in the Lake of the Ozarks at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill in Sunrise Beach, Mo., on Saturday, July 24, 2021.


Patrons dance to live music at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

Interviews with dozens of the clientele frequenting dockside bars, restaurants and resorts in this area, famously featured in the Netflix dark drama “Ozark,” revealed an opposition to the vaccine campaign and a disbelief in news around the Delta variant so intense it bordered on belligerence. No promise, they say, would entice them to voluntarily get vaccinated, not a $1 million check, or a plea from a loved one, or the encouragement of Donald Trump himself.

Among the few who admitted to getting vaccinated, some described being shamed by friends or family.

One woman, Brittany Hanlon, who wears a mask while battling cancer, said she was heckled for doing so while walking through a Wal-Mart. “Take off your mask!” two women shouted at her as she tried shopping. The women told her, “that the mask was making them uncomfortable,” Hanlon recalled, “which I don’t understand. It’s not like I was doing anything mean or inappropriate, I just had a plain black mask on.” An employee at the Ha Ha Tonka State Park Visitors Center, in the Lake of the Ozarks area, Hanlon says she wears a mask while interacting with roughly 600-700 people a week there. She is typically greeted with sneers and requests that she remove it.

These moments—evidence of how social pressures can often pull people away from public safety measures—underscore the hurdles the Biden administration now faces as it battles a resurgence of the virus across the country.

The president has attempted to hold up his handling of the pandemic as a top political accomplishment. But those achievements increasingly seem at risk. Despite a full-scale push on the local level here, and widespread evidence that the unvaccinated are making up an overwhelming majority of those hospitalized or dying from Covid, the vaccination rate remains ominously low. Single shot vaccinations for adults in the three counties within the Lake of the Ozarks region—Camden, Miller and Morgan—stood at 46 percent, 35 percent and 42 percent, respectively, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It is far from the 70 percent goal for adults that experts say is needed to achieve herd immunity.


Patrons enjoy live music at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

Those interviewed here had various reasons for not getting the vaccine. They felt overwhelmed by what they described as near-hysterical media coverage of the pandemic. They suspected greedy pharmaceutical companies were simply trying to line their pockets. Offers of money and incentives in exchange for the shot were met with even more skepticism.

“Now why would they be giving it away for free?” asked A. McNay, as he sat at Shorty Pants Lounge, another packed venue less than 15 minutes away from Backwater Jack’s. McNay asked that his full name not be used. Like many people here, he was suspicious of the government—and the media—and didn’t want too much of his personal information revealed. “If you think you can trust your government,” he said, “ask the Native Americans.”


A boy plays with a Trump flag near a Confederate flag at a stand selling mostly pro-Trump items on Bagnell Dam Boulevard in Lake Ozark, Mo.


Pedestrians are seen along the tourist area on the Bagnell Dam Strip in Lake Ozark, Mo.

Known for its Cajun cuisine, Shorty Pants was brimming with customers on a recent weeknight. A live band took requests to the delight of dancing guests who twirled to Journey or played air guitar to AC/DC. A group of 12 sitting nearby celebrated birthdays by downing a round of shots.

Inside, McNay sat along with a half a dozen other customers who likewise lamented, what they viewed as, a breathless push for vaccines. Two bartenders floated in and out of the conversation, dropping comments like “what’s Covid?” to laughter. Just recently, a beloved cook at the restaurant had died from the virus, they said. But that hadn’t changed the thinking around vaccinations. The cook, they reasoned, likely had other underlying complications.

“We don’t know what else was wrong with him,” said Murry Ferris, who frequents Shorty Pants with his wife Jane. By contrast, Murry said, he and his wife exercise vigorously and regularly. Even so, Jane Ferris said the vaccine hadn’t been studied long enough and she didn’t want to be a “guinea pig.”

Like other places with low vaccination rates, there is a deep distrust of authority that exists among those at the Lake of the Ozarks. Politicians have agendas, the press loves controversy, even data can’t be believed. Some here cast hospitalization spikes as fictionalized. Others spin conspiracy theories about microchips.

“Now people are getting vaccinated and mysteriously you can take the average scanner and scan your arm,” Kenny Hubbard, a Backwater Jack’s customer says in a Southern drawl. He contends the virus was purposely released by the government as a form of “ethnic cleansing.” None of this is true.
Hubbard, a gregarious 57-year-old who is a regular here, pulls up a chair to the bar to explain that what’s “really happening will blow your mind.” As he talks, he wraps his arm around his wife, who is wearing a blue bikini, of which he frequently comments. The two had just spent the afternoon on their motorboat, tearing through the scenic waterways and coves that lure so many to this destination. Asked what proof he had of his claims, he clicked his tongue twice. “I can’t give away everything, baby.”


Empty beer cans and cups line the pool near the swim-up bar at Dog Days Bar and Grill.

While conspiracy theories, misinformation, and paranoia may be playing catalyzing roles in discouraging vaccinations, it’s impossible to escape the reality that politics is too. In the current vaccine push, some people see an attempt to diminish the former president they love.

“I think the left is trying to extend the virus for political gain,” said Rick Shiman. Shiman did get the vaccine, in part because Donald Trump was behind developing it, he said. But he doesn’t necessarily think it’s needed.

“All this ******** about people getting sick, look around,” he gestured over to the crowded pool, “See any masks here in Missour-ah? Not one. Is anybody getting sick? No. They’re full of **** on the left.”


Patrons surround one of several bars at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

In fact, many people in Missouri are getting very sick, and they’re almost all unvaccinated. Less than 100 miles away from the Ozarks region, in Springfield, an all-hands on deck effort has been launched to fight the pandemic once more. Scraping for hospital workers to keep up with demand, state lawmakers have petitioned the governor to sign a waiver that will allow registered nurses to come in from other states. Coaches, faith leaders, firefighters and health workers are all begging local groups to get vaccinated.

That’s prompted the vaccination rate to creep up past 40 percent, not nearly enough to reach herd immunity, said Springfield’s mayor, Ken McClure. McClure said he’s had to get more frank with how he’s talking to residents. When a father told him his daughter hadn’t been vaccinated because she feared she wouldn’t be able to conceive, McClure responded, “she can’t conceive if she’s dead.”

“We’re hearing a lot of anecdotal stories of young people, no underlying health condition going in with no vaccination and they’re dead within a few days,” McClure said. “It’s going to spread statewide, we’re the tip of the spear.”

Missouri has seen an aggressive surge in Covid cases since early July, representing one of the largest outbreaks in the nation. Caseloads and hospitalizations returned to levels not seen since the thick of the pandemic last year. Over the last seven-day period, the state saw an average of 1,500 new Covid cases a day—the highest in six months—and an average of three deaths per day, according to the state’s health department.

In the past week, high-profile Republicans and conservatives have seemingly awakened to promoting the vaccine as cases explode. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey,whose state saw a 400 percent increase in Covid hospitalizations in recent weeks declared, “it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down.” And Fox news’ Sean Hannity told viewers “I believe in the science of vaccination.”

The Biden administration is hopeful that conservative influencers can help convince those hardened against the vaccine to drop their opposition. But past attempts at persuasion haven’t fully worked.

The alternative is a more stick-heavy approach, which the White House has so far resisted. But there were indications from those interviewed that if they were deprived the ability to travel or work unless they got vaccinated first, they would indeed get a shot. In one case, Lindsey Simon, a server at Margaritaville resort, said she finally got her first shot because she feared she wouldn’t be able to get to a state fair in Springfield, Ill. where she has tickets to see a performance “on my bucket list”—the actor and comedian, Gabriel “Fluffy” Iglesias.

And yet, even if requiring vaccines is the lever the Biden administration ends up pulling, those who know Missouri say they don’t expect people’s behavior to suddenly change overnight. There are cultural elements at play here, after all, more powerful than mere acts of politics.

“The irony is it’s not the dumb rubes in Missouri who don’t understand the nature of this disease,” Gregg Keller, a longtime Republican consultant in Missouri. “Missourians understand this far better than these supposed medical experts we’ve been giving tens of millions of dollars every year.”
 

Black Ambrosia

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Somebody mentioned upthread about using face shields and I can't believe that I hadn't even thought about using them again since Delta. :nono: It ain't like I don't have plenty of them in the trunk of my car. I don't go a lot of places but still can't be caught out here slipping.
Where'd you get yours from? I've never worn one but I need to start.
 

vevster

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Below is a great breakdown of a study in Massachusetts that mirrors what was found in Israel that most of the hospitalized for covid were vaccinated. It starts at the 3 minute 20 second mark.

 

naturalgyrl5199

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naturalgyrl5199

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I see we gonna keep seeing articles about how vaccines are problematic and maybe they don't work, and so many of the vaccinated are spreading it just as much as the unvaccinated.

But....Tell me the percentage of the vaccinated being intubated? What percent of the infected vaccinated are dying? Cause I promise its WAY LOWER than the unvaccinated. What percentage of people with LONG HAULERS who were infected in 2021 were vaccinated?

This was the reason for vaccines. Not to prevent. But to slow down overwhelming the hospitals. The ICUs are full and the intubation rates have gone up due to the unvaccinated-Period.
 

oneastrocurlie

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I see we gonna keep seeing articles about how vaccines are problematic and maybe they don't work, and so many of the vaccinated are spreading it just as much as the unvaccinated.

But....Tell me the percentage of the vaccinated being intubated? What percent of the infected vaccinated are dying? Cause I promise its WAY LOWER than the unvaccinated. What percentage of people with LONG HAULERS who were infected in 2021 were vaccinated?

This was the reason for vaccines. Not to prevent. But to slow down overwhelming the hospitals. The ICUs are full and the intubation rates have gone up due to the unvaccinated-Period.

That whole CDC "study" that has people in a tizzy saying vaccines don't work says this:

The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak. As population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of COVID-19 cases. Second, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias. Third, demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions

Now mind you they based their new guidelines on this. And not a single headline started with this. Just "75% of vaccinated people tested positive". Also 95% of Princetown has at least one dose. No matter how you slice it most people who are tested for covid there are going to vaccinated.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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My friend and the hospital I noted above (where my kids were born) just messaged me and said they just got a Code Green a few hours ago. Its a disaster plan protocol similar to what we also use at my job--- where all nurses on staff-no matter the position--can be "deployed" to the COVID floor. Even if you're not a bedside nurse right now due to being short staffed. The ICU is at capacity (basically no ICU beds right now). They will pay all the overtime they want but you HAVE to work COVID floor when called upon. So they've basically moved to an Incident Command Structure and treating this as if a hurricane just hit or a bomb.

She also says they aren't verifying vaccine status upon admittance. I think this is important because its a grey area and accuracy is questionable.

My assistant JUST told me today that they took her brother in law who was in the ICU for non-COVID reasons to a specialty hospital down the road yesterday. Its getting serious here in the state capital.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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That whole CDC "study" that has people in a tizzy saying vaccines don't work says this:



Now mind you they based their new guidelines on this. And not a single headline started with this. Just "75% of vaccinated people tested positive". Also 95% of Princetown has at least one dose. No matter how you slice it most people who are tested for covid there are going to vaccinated.
I also noticed she said many men were abnormally positive and I immediately thought that they were the ones out and about.
Then, of course when you know you were out unmasked, vaccinated or not, as soon as you get a scratchy throat....people gonna run for a test. Testing was dead low around the 4th of July. Of course soon after its going to spike.
 

oneastrocurlie

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I also noticed she said many men were abnormally positive and I immediately thought that they were the ones out and about.
Then, of course when you know you were out unmasked, vaccinated or not, as soon as you get a scratchy throat....people gonna run for a test. Testing was dead low around the 4th of July. Of course soon after its going to spike.

The town manager said he ain't with the news reports

 

snoop

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I see we gonna keep seeing articles about how vaccines are problematic and maybe they don't work, and so many of the vaccinated are spreading it just as much as the unvaccinated.

But....Tell me the percentage of the vaccinated being intubated? What percent of the infected vaccinated are dying? Cause I promise its WAY LOWER than the unvaccinated. What percentage of people with LONG HAULERS who were infected in 2021 were vaccinated?

This was the reason for vaccines. Not to prevent. But to slow down overwhelming the hospitals. The ICUs are full and the intubation rates have gone up due to the unvaccinated-Period.

I totally hear you.

Just to answer your question, I think that I got this from one of the previously posted articles:
https://www.newsweek.com/fully-vacc...-covid-aged-33-rare-breakthrough-case-1613379


As of July 19, 2021, more than 161 million people in the U.S. had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, and the CDC had received reports of 5,914 vaccine breakthrough cases.
Of those, 1,141 fully vaccinated people had died from COVID-19, and of 5,601 had been hospitalized.

Proportionately, not high but I don't want to be a "mild" case, a hospitalized case, nor a dead case. None of it sounds like fun.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I don't know how we aren't already extinct. None of what's in this article is surprising but it's shocking that so many people are so out of touch. It's one thing to be unvaccinated. It's another to put yourself in high risk settings and think you're invincible. Reminds me of something I saw online.

To :censored: around is human. To find out is divine.

They're all gonna find out.

‘What’s Covid?’ Why People at America’s Hardest-Partying Lake Are Not About to Get Vaccinated

At the Lake of the Ozarks, vaccines are shunned, masks are mocked and the long-term consequences take a back seat to the time at hand.


OSAGE BEACH, Mo.—The petite blonde bartender in ripped jean shorts bounced to each side of a square-shaped bar as women in bikinis and shirtless men lined up on a sweltering afternoon to order Bud Light, vodka and soda, and piles of nachos at this dockside retreat in the Lake of the Ozarks region.

In a county designated a Covid hot spot, in a state with one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation, and in a region where hospitals are nearing capacity as the Delta variant takes hold, Erin, a bartender at Backwater Jack’s, couldn’t be in a more vulnerable position. She interacts closely with hundreds of maskless customers—sometimes on a single day. She knows most of them are probably not vaccinated. And she doesn’t care. She isn’t either.

“I’m living, breathing proof—I’ve not been sick once. I’ve been as hands-on as you can be with people from everywhere,” Erin said, as a motorboat thundered to the dock and another group of customers climbed out. Like others who spoke for this article, she asked to go only by her first name. She said she’d heard a rumor—common among vaccine skeptics but also plainly false—that “more people are dying from getting the vaccine this week.”

“Personally,” Erin added, “I feel like my immune system is doing a good job, so why pump it full of something that we don’t really know what it is?”

Boaters dock outside Backwater Jack's on Lake of the Ozarks in Osage Beach, Mo., Saturday, July 24, 2021.

A year ago, Backwater Jack’s made national news after photos went viral of partiers packed inside the pool area, ignoring guidelines to avoid crowds and keep a distance from others. Today, as revelers laugh and toss back drinks in shallow pool water, some 600,000 deaths later, they aren’t just forgoing masks, they are forgoing the vaccine.

Talk of the vaccine draws scoffs, laughs and even cussing among the clientele. Mask-wearing, which is recommended for those not vaccinated, was virtually non-existent—and, in conversations with a flow of customers over two days, it’s clear that many are not vaccinated.

Depending on your politics, the scene at Backwater Jack’s is either a symbol of reckless abandon or unapologetic living in the face of a pandemic. It is one pole of the divide that has erupted across the country, which increasingly seems cloven into two Americas: vaxxed and unvaxxed. In the Lake of the Ozarks region, where Missourians and out-of-staters pour in to boat, fish, sunbathe and party, to be unvaxxed is a source of identity and—at times—pride, a totem of one’s independence and politics.


Bartenders serve drinks at the swim-up bar at Dog Days Bar and Grill.


Patrons swim in the Lake of the Ozarks at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill in Sunrise Beach, Mo., on Saturday, July 24, 2021.


Patrons dance to live music at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

Interviews with dozens of the clientele frequenting dockside bars, restaurants and resorts in this area, famously featured in the Netflix dark drama “Ozark,” revealed an opposition to the vaccine campaign and a disbelief in news around the Delta variant so intense it bordered on belligerence. No promise, they say, would entice them to voluntarily get vaccinated, not a $1 million check, or a plea from a loved one, or the encouragement of Donald Trump himself.

Among the few who admitted to getting vaccinated, some described being shamed by friends or family.

One woman, Brittany Hanlon, who wears a mask while battling cancer, said she was heckled for doing so while walking through a Wal-Mart. “Take off your mask!” two women shouted at her as she tried shopping. The women told her, “that the mask was making them uncomfortable,” Hanlon recalled, “which I don’t understand. It’s not like I was doing anything mean or inappropriate, I just had a plain black mask on.” An employee at the Ha Ha Tonka State Park Visitors Center, in the Lake of the Ozarks area, Hanlon says she wears a mask while interacting with roughly 600-700 people a week there. She is typically greeted with sneers and requests that she remove it.

These moments—evidence of how social pressures can often pull people away from public safety measures—underscore the hurdles the Biden administration now faces as it battles a resurgence of the virus across the country.

The president has attempted to hold up his handling of the pandemic as a top political accomplishment. But those achievements increasingly seem at risk. Despite a full-scale push on the local level here, and widespread evidence that the unvaccinated are making up an overwhelming majority of those hospitalized or dying from Covid, the vaccination rate remains ominously low. Single shot vaccinations for adults in the three counties within the Lake of the Ozarks region—Camden, Miller and Morgan—stood at 46 percent, 35 percent and 42 percent, respectively, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It is far from the 70 percent goal for adults that experts say is needed to achieve herd immunity.


Patrons enjoy live music at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

Those interviewed here had various reasons for not getting the vaccine. They felt overwhelmed by what they described as near-hysterical media coverage of the pandemic. They suspected greedy pharmaceutical companies were simply trying to line their pockets. Offers of money and incentives in exchange for the shot were met with even more skepticism.

“Now why would they be giving it away for free?” asked A. McNay, as he sat at Shorty Pants Lounge, another packed venue less than 15 minutes away from Backwater Jack’s. McNay asked that his full name not be used. Like many people here, he was suspicious of the government—and the media—and didn’t want too much of his personal information revealed. “If you think you can trust your government,” he said, “ask the Native Americans.”


A boy plays with a Trump flag near a Confederate flag at a stand selling mostly pro-Trump items on Bagnell Dam Boulevard in Lake Ozark, Mo.


Pedestrians are seen along the tourist area on the Bagnell Dam Strip in Lake Ozark, Mo.

Known for its Cajun cuisine, Shorty Pants was brimming with customers on a recent weeknight. A live band took requests to the delight of dancing guests who twirled to Journey or played air guitar to AC/DC. A group of 12 sitting nearby celebrated birthdays by downing a round of shots.

Inside, McNay sat along with a half a dozen other customers who likewise lamented, what they viewed as, a breathless push for vaccines. Two bartenders floated in and out of the conversation, dropping comments like “what’s Covid?” to laughter. Just recently, a beloved cook at the restaurant had died from the virus, they said. But that hadn’t changed the thinking around vaccinations. The cook, they reasoned, likely had other underlying complications.

“We don’t know what else was wrong with him,” said Murry Ferris, who frequents Shorty Pants with his wife Jane. By contrast, Murry said, he and his wife exercise vigorously and regularly. Even so, Jane Ferris said the vaccine hadn’t been studied long enough and she didn’t want to be a “guinea pig.”

Like other places with low vaccination rates, there is a deep distrust of authority that exists among those at the Lake of the Ozarks. Politicians have agendas, the press loves controversy, even data can’t be believed. Some here cast hospitalization spikes as fictionalized. Others spin conspiracy theories about microchips.

“Now people are getting vaccinated and mysteriously you can take the average scanner and scan your arm,” Kenny Hubbard, a Backwater Jack’s customer says in a Southern drawl. He contends the virus was purposely released by the government as a form of “ethnic cleansing.” None of this is true.
Hubbard, a gregarious 57-year-old who is a regular here, pulls up a chair to the bar to explain that what’s “really happening will blow your mind.” As he talks, he wraps his arm around his wife, who is wearing a blue bikini, of which he frequently comments. The two had just spent the afternoon on their motorboat, tearing through the scenic waterways and coves that lure so many to this destination. Asked what proof he had of his claims, he clicked his tongue twice. “I can’t give away everything, baby.”


Empty beer cans and cups line the pool near the swim-up bar at Dog Days Bar and Grill.

While conspiracy theories, misinformation, and paranoia may be playing catalyzing roles in discouraging vaccinations, it’s impossible to escape the reality that politics is too. In the current vaccine push, some people see an attempt to diminish the former president they love.

“I think the left is trying to extend the virus for political gain,” said Rick Shiman. Shiman did get the vaccine, in part because Donald Trump was behind developing it, he said. But he doesn’t necessarily think it’s needed.

“All this ******** about people getting sick, look around,” he gestured over to the crowded pool, “See any masks here in Missour-ah? Not one. Is anybody getting sick? No. They’re full of **** on the left.”


Patrons surround one of several bars at Franky & Louie's Beachfront Bar & Grill.

In fact, many people in Missouri are getting very sick, and they’re almost all unvaccinated. Less than 100 miles away from the Ozarks region, in Springfield, an all-hands on deck effort has been launched to fight the pandemic once more. Scraping for hospital workers to keep up with demand, state lawmakers have petitioned the governor to sign a waiver that will allow registered nurses to come in from other states. Coaches, faith leaders, firefighters and health workers are all begging local groups to get vaccinated.

That’s prompted the vaccination rate to creep up past 40 percent, not nearly enough to reach herd immunity, said Springfield’s mayor, Ken McClure. McClure said he’s had to get more frank with how he’s talking to residents. When a father told him his daughter hadn’t been vaccinated because she feared she wouldn’t be able to conceive, McClure responded, “she can’t conceive if she’s dead.”

“We’re hearing a lot of anecdotal stories of young people, no underlying health condition going in with no vaccination and they’re dead within a few days,” McClure said. “It’s going to spread statewide, we’re the tip of the spear.”

Missouri has seen an aggressive surge in Covid cases since early July, representing one of the largest outbreaks in the nation. Caseloads and hospitalizations returned to levels not seen since the thick of the pandemic last year. Over the last seven-day period, the state saw an average of 1,500 new Covid cases a day—the highest in six months—and an average of three deaths per day, according to the state’s health department.

In the past week, high-profile Republicans and conservatives have seemingly awakened to promoting the vaccine as cases explode. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey,whose state saw a 400 percent increase in Covid hospitalizations in recent weeks declared, “it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down.” And Fox news’ Sean Hannity told viewers “I believe in the science of vaccination.”

The Biden administration is hopeful that conservative influencers can help convince those hardened against the vaccine to drop their opposition. But past attempts at persuasion haven’t fully worked.

The alternative is a more stick-heavy approach, which the White House has so far resisted. But there were indications from those interviewed that if they were deprived the ability to travel or work unless they got vaccinated first, they would indeed get a shot. In one case, Lindsey Simon, a server at Margaritaville resort, said she finally got her first shot because she feared she wouldn’t be able to get to a state fair in Springfield, Ill. where she has tickets to see a performance “on my bucket list”—the actor and comedian, Gabriel “Fluffy” Iglesias.

And yet, even if requiring vaccines is the lever the Biden administration ends up pulling, those who know Missouri say they don’t expect people’s behavior to suddenly change overnight. There are cultural elements at play here, after all, more powerful than mere acts of politics.

“The irony is it’s not the dumb rubes in Missouri who don’t understand the nature of this disease,” Gregg Keller, a longtime Republican consultant in Missouri. “Missourians understand this far better than these supposed medical experts we’ve been giving tens of millions of dollars every year.”
That's why these things come around every 100 years to thin out the heard. The thing that I wouldn't advise mentioning in mixed company is that it is very likely that some people are immune to Covid. Typhoid Mary was a carrier who never got sick with Typhoid but she gave it to 30 people who suffered miserably and 3 who died. Mary was told she was making people sick and people were dying and you know what her response was? She gave not one solitary :censored: and continued doing her. Mind you, for all the pooh thrown at Typhoid Mary, she was truly stuck between a rock and a hard place and in the end chose herself, whereas todays hardheads are between a soft place and imminent danger to themselves and others.


The life is unfair moment is that a lot of the people in those photos are probably asymptomatic carriers who will be fine but will cause others to suffer. If karma was real, not only would they would have to live with the knowledge of the havoc that they caused but the loved ones of the people who suffer/die would know exactly who was responsible.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
There is no amount of Vitamins that was going to save this woman from the aftermath of Covid. I suspect that a lot of the people who are more afraid of the vaccine than the virus don't understand that even if you are the picture of health, viruses can trigger dormant genetic disorders that you may never have been screened for to know that you have. This is why the unvaccinated people who violated the honor system are responsible for the havoc that is currently being wrought.
 

Black Ambrosia

Well-Known Member
That's why these things come around every 100 years to thin out the heard. The thing that I wouldn't advise mentioning in mixed company is that it is very likely that some people are immune to Covid. Typhoid Mary was a carrier who never got sick with Typhoid but she gave it to 30 people who suffered miserably and 3 who died. Mary was told she was making people sick and people were dying and you know what her response was? She gave not one solitary :censored: and continued doing her. Mind you, for all the pooh thrown at Typhoid Mary, she was truly stuck between a rock and a hard place and in the end chose herself, whereas todays hardheads are between a soft place and imminent danger to themselves and others.


The life is unfair moment is that a lot of the people in those photos are probably asymptomatic carriers who will be fine but will cause others to suffer. If karma was real, not only would they would have to live with the knowledge of the havoc that they caused but the loved ones of the people who suffer/die would know exactly who was responsible.
Definitely agree but I think even the asymptomatic will have it hit close to home. The numbers are too high for it not to. You and all your friends can't be this reckless and not have it touch anyone close to you. Even if that person doesn't get covid, there'll be someone in a car accident, giving birth, etc who won't get the care they need because the hospitals are overrun. Of course, they may not have the self awareness to see their role in it but it still counts.
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
I was on a call for a medical marijuana collective in Denver and the building that the collective is in advised that since Denver County had hit "redzone" Delta Variant numbers they were going to require everyone entering the office space to wear masks to protect their employees and strongly recommended that all the tenant businesses did the same. The collective owners (mainly Californians) voted that all employees go back to wearing masks regardless of vax status. Maynnn the onsite managers got real sassy over the decision talking about "well the governor isn't making anybody do it, so why do we have to follow the building?" They got told that we don't make money if they get sick so they go wear these masks so that we make money and they are big mad. :rolleyes:
Some Karen said
that the reason we
are being told to
wear masks is so
we can be kidnapped.
She was as serious as
a heart attack.
She went on to say
that the bible says
we should fear fear
itself, not a little virus.
She continued to say
Covid replaced flu
and no one gets
flu anymore.
She said that hospitals
are making money
when they blame
deaths on Covid.
She said it will
all come out that
conspiracy theories
are really from the
vax and mask pushers.
That she and others
like her are
the source of
Biblical truth....

Now I know you
are all wondering
how I could sit
through that lunacy
like I don't have
anything to do.
You will be relieved
to know I did not.
A friend happened
to hear the start
of the loony talk
and was like
dis gonn' be gud
and start recording
because she knew
I would not believe it.

So there you are:
You are all being
misled with the
advice to wear
masks so you can
be kidnapped.

You have
been warned. :look:


:whyme:
 
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