The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

awhyley

Well-Known Member
So I passed it.
I'm one of only 2 black IBCLCs (International Board Certified Lactation Consultants) in my county-well for my entire 6-county region. The one other black lactation consultant is retiring in the next 3 or so years. Its hard to break into this certification as it is. #FLORIDA :(
Now for the hard work of bringing more in.


Congrats, you made it despite all the challanges around you at the time. Onto bigger and better. :yep:
 

naturalgyrl5199

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This article uggh


I just... sigh
Takeaways for me:
The variant is way more transmissable and the vaccine doesn't have some super boost against actual infection. However the vaccine continues to do a great job of preventing actual illness and hospitalizations.

But as usual, the vulnerable, the unvaccinated who are infected have no protection against actual illness. And are starting to fill up the hospitals again.

The problem with these new variants is that the attitude of "well ou rimmune system will improve, etc.." is only for the more healthier of people. Once again for the 1000th time....hospitals in a non-pandemic situation can only tolerate a tiny population of sick for a general population area they serve. A pandemic disease that adds even 2-3% increase in the census will make resources (medications, beds, humans--nurses, doctors, staff) dwindle down. Mix that with their inability to re-up resources (staff changes, STAFF SICKNESS, equipment, etc) and you have pandemonium. Not to mention people continue to procreate, be diabetic, and have your everyday medical emergencies like car accidents, assaults, diabetic coma, and then people who use the ER as a MD office.

Not to mention now---my health department is (as of today) on alert about the rise in breast cancer rates. People are delaying screening and coming in already at stage 2 or 3 which makes survivability difficult. Its problematic because Health Departments do breast cancer screenings for the uninsured and poor. (whispers---so does Planned Parenthood). These low income women are most likely the breadwinner or head of household in a family. Research has ALWAYS shown that early detection saves lives....*(see my next comment).

So when people go on about "our immunity will stand!" I roll my eyes until I can see my scalp because its the HIGHLIGHT of elitism to assume every human's "immunity will stand." Pandemics have a cascade effect.

At this point the illness from disease is improving, but life in general is fraying at the seams due to this cascade effect on other aspects of daily living. Especially for the poor and most vulnerable communities.
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
Speaking of cancer.
My baby brother's wife. My dear sister in law has breast cancer. She discovered it while visiting Atlanta back in September. Being well off, she was able to get things tested, examined and 2 weeks ago on her oldest child's birthday, she got a double mastectomy. Only to be told yesterday that the lymph nodes they tested showed signs of microscopic cancer spread. The surgeon was very matter of factly and deadpan about it, but thankfully, the oncologist was extremely hopeful. She went through the tests and said what they found was treatable, but her reconstruction surgery, planned for January will be pushed back to around Sept/October. They did the surgery to avoid chemo but she will need it. The oncologist insists that her patients who had this super early level of detection are literally still "walking around living well." On top of the fact that her mother was dead set against surgery altogether because "we got faith." So when they got the news yesterday, her and her mother aren't even speaking. However my brother spoke up for his wife. They also have a peer black couple where the woman has gone through the same thing over 5-6 years ago and continues to be in remission. They are same age and kids the same age. I'm praying for them too because that husband will walk my brother through it, and the young lady will walk my sister in law through it. She came immediately last night to take her to dinner. So things are looking up. My sister has had NO SYMPTOMS of illness. She just found a lump. Which highlights the point that the most vulnerable, uninsured and poor will have little resources, wait around, and will be on the back end of the fight instead of in front of it like my dear sister in law.


Same for my dad. He has prostate cancer and only found out bc he is hardcore about regular testing. He is the rare black male that was OCD about regular medical visits and aggravated the MD to no end years ago demanding 3 times a year blood tests. And looky here it was slightly--slightly elevated in a routine test. His PSA is already in check as he is going through radiation now. So he never had prostate pain. So again, its treatable. But thats what good insurance and money gets you.
 

Melaninme

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"(Reuters) -The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday it had received reports of eight cases of myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation, in children aged 5-11 years who received Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine. " :cry3:

 

Seattle Slew

WinterinAtl
"(Reuters) -The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday it had received reports of eight cases of myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation, in children aged 5-11 years who received Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine. " :cry3:

That is sad.
Correlation is not causation.
 

vevster

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I had all the symptoms of Omicron last week. A very mild cold. Ran my protocols, I’m fine. Not sure if it was Omicron cause I didn’t get tested but I know how to fight a virus.
I have a virtual visit w my doc on Monday. I’ll see if he wants me to test for antibodies.
 

Melaninme

Well-Known Member
They have already said this is a side effect of the vaccine.
And added a warning to it.

 
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PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
Excuse my ignorance
but is the new
rule that if
you tested positive
for Covid-19
and have been
home for 10 days,
you can return
to work without
first getting a
negative test result
as long as you
have no fever
and no symptoms?

How can people
know someone has
no symptoms if
they don't tell
because they really
want to get
back to work?

Headache, sore
throat, fatigue...

Someone please
help me understand
because with recurring
infections and the fact
that one is most
contagious before
symptoms show up,
I do not understand
the logic behind
the aforementioned rule.

My friend's hubby's
job has that policy.
 

oneastrocurlie

Well-Known Member
Excuse my ignorance
but is the new
rule that if
you tested positive
for Covid-19
and have been
home for 10 days,
you can return
to work without
first getting a
negative test result
as long as you
have no fever
and no symptoms?

How can people
know someone has
no symptoms if
they don't tell
because they really
want to get
back to work?

Headache, sore
throat, fatigue...

Someone please
help me understand
because with recurring
infections and the fact
that one is most
contagious before
symptoms show up,
I do not understand
the logic behind
the aforementioned rule.

My friend's hubby's
job has that policy.

That seems to be the "rule". I know a few people who tested positive within the last couple of months and that's what their work policy was. My understanding is that you aren't spreading it at that point and you can still test positive for covid long after (I think I've read months after) you've first caught it.
 

Black Ambrosia

Well-Known Member
This is similar to the policy at my niece's school but she wasn't actually positive. She was just exposed. You have to quarantine for 10 days from your last exposure or quarantine for at least 7 days with a negative PCR test done at least 5 days after the last exposure. We were hoping to get her back in school in less than 10 days since she tested negative but because she was tested immediately after being exposed (instead of 5 days later) she had to wait and be re-tested. We then waited another 2 days so she could be tested at the school with the oral swab instead of the nasal swab. We didn't realize it wasn't rapid so she still ended up going back after the 10th day anyway. She's already missed about 3 weeks of school because of other classroom exposures.

I can appreciate their diligence with an exposure but it's weird to me that a negative test isn't a requirement. I'm sure there are reasons. It just doesn't sit right with me.
 

oneastrocurlie

Well-Known Member
This is similar to the policy at my niece's school but she wasn't actually positive. She was just exposed. You have to quarantine for 10 days from your last exposure or quarantine for at least 7 days with a negative PCR test done at least 5 days after the last exposure. We were hoping to get her back in school in less than 10 days since she tested negative but because she was tested immediately after being exposed (instead of 5 days later) she had to wait and be re-tested. We then waited another 2 days so she could be tested at the school with the oral swab instead of the nasal swab. We didn't realize it wasn't rapid so she still ended up going back after the 10th day anyway. She's already missed about 3 weeks of school because of other classroom exposures.

I can appreciate their diligence with an exposure but it's weird to me that a negative test isn't a requirement. I'm sure there are reasons. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I just saw this about schools and quarantining. Looks like they want to reduce what your niece went through.

 

yamilee21

Well-Known Member
As @oneastrocurlie mentioned, some unlucky people continue testing positive well beyond the infectious period, which is why negative tests aren’t required for Covid positive cases. For exposed contacts though, a negative test between the 5th and 10th day of the quarantine period is helpful, but after the 10th day is unnecessary, because the vast majority of people who contract Covid after exposure become symptomatic or test positive within 2 to 7 days of exposure, especially with the more recent variants. There have been a few people with very long incubation periods after exposure, but they are so rare that it doesn’t make sense to develop protocols based on the extreme outliers at this point.

@BrownBetty, thanks for linking that article. That’s truly the problem in the U.S. - people only concerned about their own ability to fight off Covid, and not caring at all about those they may infect, who may end up seriously ill, or die. It’s the callousness of this indifference that is astounding - as if the immuno-compromised chose to be so, or the elderly simply shouldn’t exist. And it’s delusional, because even though there are some risk factors that have been identified, there is nonetheless a very random aspect to Covid, especially when it comes to “long Covid” and MIS-C.
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
This is similar to the policy at my niece's school but she wasn't actually positive. She was just exposed. You have to quarantine for 10 days from your last exposure or quarantine for at least 7 days with a negative PCR test done at least 5 days after the last exposure. We were hoping to get her back in school in less than 10 days since she tested negative but because she was tested immediately after being exposed (instead of 5 days later) she had to wait and be re-tested. We then waited another 2 days so she could be tested at the school with the oral swab instead of the nasal swab. We didn't realize it wasn't rapid so she still ended up going back after the 10th day anyway. She's already missed about 3 weeks of school because of other classroom exposures.

I can appreciate their diligence with an exposure but it's weird to me that a negative test isn't a requirement. I'm sure there are reasons. It just doesn't sit right with me.
Your daughter's school
policy makes more
sense to me than
my friend's DH's job.

I hate how she
and her whole family
are against masks
and how they do
not see anything
wrong with returning
to work when not
completely well just
because one does
not have a fever.

I don't even like
the assumption that
people with Covid
are not spreading
after X number
of days have passed.
Why?
Cuz these people
are not being
careful and with
other careless people
coming in and out
of the home,
how can they be
sure they did not
get reinfected with
a new strain
ushered into their
home by careless kin?
Repeat Covid infections
are not unheard of.

Kinda like flu,
a new strain
ain't paying attention
to your new antibodies.

Incidentally my
friend has now
tested positive herself.

I'm tired.
Just dead :moon: tired!
 

PatDM'T

Well-Known Member
As @oneastrocurlie mentioned, some unlucky people continue testing positive well beyond the infectious period, which is why negative tests aren’t required for Covid positive cases. For exposed contacts though, a negative test between the 5th and 10th day of the quarantine period is helpful, but after the 10th day is unnecessary, because the vast majority of people who contract Covid after exposure become symptomatic or test positive within 2 to 7 days of exposure, especially with the more recent variants. There have been a few people with very long incubation periods after exposure, but they are so rare that it doesn’t make sense to develop protocols based on the extreme outliers at this point.
Thank @yamilee21
for kind of explaining.
I need to reread
when half my brain
is not at work
to see if
I get it.
 

naturalgyrl5199

Well-Known Member
As @oneastrocurlie mentioned, some unlucky people continue testing positive well beyond the infectious period, which is why negative tests aren’t required for Covid positive cases. For exposed contacts though, a negative test between the 5th and 10th day of the quarantine period is helpful, but after the 10th day is unnecessary, because the vast majority of people who contract Covid after exposure become symptomatic or test positive within 2 to 7 days of exposure, especially with the more recent variants. There have been a few people with very long incubation periods after exposure, but they are so rare that it doesn’t make sense to develop protocols based on the extreme outliers at this point.

@BrownBetty, thanks for linking that article. That’s truly the problem in the U.S. - people only concerned about their own ability to fight off Covid, and not caring at all about those they may infect, who may end up seriously ill, or die. It’s the callousness of this indifference that is astounding - as if the immuno-compromised chose to be so, or the elderly simply shouldn’t exist. And it’s delusional, because even though there are some risk factors that have been identified, there is nonetheless a very random aspect to Covid, especially when it comes to “long Covid” and MIS-C.
Let the church say AMEN.

And thats why we'll be on to the Zeta variant, and then on to Roman numerals the way people just refuse to think as a collective.
 

sunshinebeautiful

Well-Known Member
That seems to be the "rule". I know a few people who tested positive within the last couple of months and that's what their work policy was. My understanding is that you aren't spreading it at that point and you can still test positive for covid long after (I think I've read months after) you've first caught it.

Yup. I had covid in late February/early March. It was almost May before I tested negative again, even though the symptoms had long gone away. I was working remotely at the time so it didn't make a difference as far as coming back to the office.
 
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