Nefertiti0906
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How much does it cost in your area? My stylist charges $500
Ladies who got the Brazilian Keratin Treatment: Updates on BKT and questions
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crazydaze911
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I live in NYC - dominicans charge about $275 (my hair touches BSL). Caucasians will charge alot more - not sure how much more........
vkb247
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This has always interested me. I see that one site says that if you use Pravana at room temperature it lasts 4 months, but if you flat iron at 450F it than it is permanent. I'm gonna look into it.
Wonder what would happen if you blowdried or flatironed your hair on low with this thing? Sounds like you'd have to be real careful either way.
Wonder what would happen if you blowdried or flatironed your hair on low with this thing? Sounds like you'd have to be real careful either way.
luckiestdestiny
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I checked out the you tube link and noticed the person who posted was answering questions.
One answer was this:
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Hello,
This treatment will last 3-5 months. Results vary depending on your hair type. If your hair is virgin, results will be achieved after the second or third application and if your hair is damaged it will be achieved by the first. It also depends which treatment you choose to get done.
Anyone with 3c or 4a hair have you found this to be true? How often do you have to "straighten" your hair or can you just roller set it. Thanks
luckiestdestiny
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Did research about Pravana which is just like a relaxer and found this:
Star
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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My hair stylist put the Pravana straighten treatment in my hair in July 08 and told me that it was a Brazilian Kertain Treatment. Anyway shortly I found out on research of my own that it is NOT! I am of African American decent and the product did make my hair straight however I've lost ALOT of hair in long strands every day. As of today November 22, 2008 I have short pieces of hair sticking up all over my head. The hair lost per day is amazing to every hair stylist I show. I've tried every conditioner and is now using JOICO K-PAK Moisture and Reconstruct. I use the Kendra color-care sulfate free for the shampoo. Please anyone who has any advice I am willing to listen and try a way to stop or reverse the damage. I started with a head full of very thick hair now my head of hair is thin and the strands literally come out if you just grap and slightly pull my hair, it is totally depressing! I did try in the beginning the Pravana shampoo and conditioner. If you have any suggestions please email me at [email protected]
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fort-lauderdale-fl/T1JF9N2KG0TFANTEP/p60
I'll post it for others interested. I just thought the ladies should see this.
Star
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#1234 Nov 22, 2008
My hair stylist put the Pravana straighten treatment in my hair in July 08 and told me that it was a Brazilian Kertain Treatment. Anyway shortly I found out on research of my own that it is NOT! I am of African American decent and the product did make my hair straight however I've lost ALOT of hair in long strands every day. As of today November 22, 2008 I have short pieces of hair sticking up all over my head. The hair lost per day is amazing to every hair stylist I show. I've tried every conditioner and is now using JOICO K-PAK Moisture and Reconstruct. I use the Kendra color-care sulfate free for the shampoo. Please anyone who has any advice I am willing to listen and try a way to stop or reverse the damage. I started with a head full of very thick hair now my head of hair is thin and the strands literally come out if you just grap and slightly pull my hair, it is totally depressing! I did try in the beginning the Pravana shampoo and conditioner. If you have any suggestions please email me at [email protected]
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fort-lauderdale-fl/T1JF9N2KG0TFANTEP/p60
I'll post it for others interested. I just thought the ladies should see this.
princessnad
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Wow haven't seen this thread in a while.
I'm 4a and at first I did it once per month. Now I go about 3 months. The results are somewhat cumulative.
luckiestdestiny
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Woah Woah princess! I HAVE to quizz you as you're a natural and I'm 3c/ with more 4a.
Your first time did it turn out well. I realize it wore off fast, but did it look good for that month? Did it stay straight or somewhat looser after washing?
Also WHERE do you go and do you get the formaldahyde free one? Please don't leave out where you go. I see NY on your profile and I'm in NY
luckiestdestiny
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Excuse the last question I notice you do your own and what kind. Someone just pmd me on a keratin w/o the form
please respond to the other questions, though
please respond to the other questions, though
luckiestdestiny
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You also tried the cheaper version without the form,, and that one was like $125 ish for you from what I read, right? How much extra do you think (around I know you can't estimate) would they charge for a MBL natural?
luckiestdestiny
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crazydaze911
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The woman who referred me paid $125, i paid $150 for BSL hair. MBL is about 3 inches longer i think so maybe $160 - if you have alot of shrinkage he may not notice the length - hehe. not sure, but call the number i PMed you.
SoCalli
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I have 3c hair and my sister is 4a. We have never gotten straight hair using bkt. Like another poster says, your hair does get looser and looser the more you use it, but ours has never gotten straight. The healthier your hair is the less straight it will get. I have a friend who is 4a/b with horribly damaged hair. After doing her bkt, the damanged airs were straight after she washed her hair and the less damaged parts were curly/wavy. Most of her hair is/was damaged though. I think having straight hair after the process is not a good sign b/c it is indicative of serious damage (unless of course you have a relaxer then it makes sense).
luckiestdestiny
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Wanted to post this as I was reading in time out ny
One available solution brand, Advanced Keratin Treatment, falls below the theoretically healthy limit of 0.2 percent. It’s distributed by Nadine Ramos, who owns the Lasio Studios Salon. Of the three distributors we spoke to, Ramos was the only one who continuously tests her product for formaldehyde levels. “Ask questions if you must do this,” Dr. Marmur suggests, “but none of it sounds like a good idea to me.”
Here, a breakdown of which NYC salons use which solution, and the risks involved:
Advanced Keratin Treatment (no more than 0.2 percent formaldehyde)
Lasio Studios Salon (Ramos’s spot) 117 E 7th St between First Ave and Ave A (212-477-2088); $150–$500
I'm not saying I want to go there. I'm just saying that there are safe versions of this product. In addition, I looked up the mortality rates of embalmers. I know I am insane w/ research. They did not show higher incidents of death related to sinus, nasal, or any lung cancers. The only thing that was slightly elevated (and so slight I'm talking a percertage) was for leukemia but the article said that the findings couldn't be limited to the study (as they were also smokers) so therefore there were other factors involved. Embalmers are around this stuff all day!
Now don't get me wrong, insane levels of this stuff are a no no, but at minimized levels of low, or no formaldehyde this product seems like it can be a keeper.
One available solution brand, Advanced Keratin Treatment, falls below the theoretically healthy limit of 0.2 percent. It’s distributed by Nadine Ramos, who owns the Lasio Studios Salon. Of the three distributors we spoke to, Ramos was the only one who continuously tests her product for formaldehyde levels. “Ask questions if you must do this,” Dr. Marmur suggests, “but none of it sounds like a good idea to me.”
Here, a breakdown of which NYC salons use which solution, and the risks involved:
Advanced Keratin Treatment (no more than 0.2 percent formaldehyde)
Lasio Studios Salon (Ramos’s spot) 117 E 7th St between First Ave and Ave A (212-477-2088); $150–$500
I'm not saying I want to go there. I'm just saying that there are safe versions of this product. In addition, I looked up the mortality rates of embalmers. I know I am insane w/ research. They did not show higher incidents of death related to sinus, nasal, or any lung cancers. The only thing that was slightly elevated (and so slight I'm talking a percertage) was for leukemia but the article said that the findings couldn't be limited to the study (as they were also smokers) so therefore there were other factors involved. Embalmers are around this stuff all day!
Now don't get me wrong, insane levels of this stuff are a no no, but at minimized levels of low, or no formaldehyde this product seems like it can be a keeper.
luckiestdestiny
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I don't mind it being curly wavy. I know mine won't be straight after hearing what you say about damaged. My hair is all natural and has been in cornrows for the past four months, I dust my ends, I eat right, I protect my hair, so I'll probably get the whole curly wavy thing and I would LOVE that LOVE it! I just want to have hair that can make the detangling and drying process faster as now it's hell.
SoCalli
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luckiestdestiny
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Thanks for all the info foxylisa1025
I was wondering what you do to get your signature sleek hair. I noticed in your public profile you recommended this conditioner
http://www.frizzy2silky.com/shop/ion...le-p-5635.html
Do you use it after the keratin treatment on wash day or was that before?
What specific procedure do you use to get your look ? Thanks so much
I was wondering what you do to get your signature sleek hair. I noticed in your public profile you recommended this conditioner
http://www.frizzy2silky.com/shop/ion...le-p-5635.html
Do you use it after the keratin treatment on wash day or was that before?
What specific procedure do you use to get your look ? Thanks so much
SoCalli
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I haven't done bkt in like a year. I wasn't doing the ISH treatment then. I haven't done the ISH treatment in a few months either. Anyway, you wash your hair and then put a little ISH all over your hair to serve as a heat protectant. You blowdry your hair and then put the conditioner in your hair like a relaxer. After doing this, you take your flat iron and wrap it in foil. You go down the length of the ends melting the little balls. Press for a few seconds and move down the length of the hair. After you have done the whole head, rinse the conditioner out and style like regular. It makes my hair really shiny. I should do one soon. I pm'd you my regimen.
luckiestdestiny
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Okay you guys, I think for my first one, I'll go to a salon. I just wanted to get your opinion on something. What's this girl's hair type? It's from the salon I posted earlier. I think she has two types going on and was on their website. So I wanted to get an idea of how it could work on mine. They are a dominican salon and they are featured in Time out ny as being in the safe limit of no more than 2 tenths of one percent, not even close to a percent at .2 Heck there's more in my nail polish. So I wanted to get an idea of how good it could straighten my hair temporarily if it could straighten hers. Please chime in, as I am easily able to tell mine, but I get confused about other peoples, and I believe she's combed it so it looks more stretched out. Thanks
The first pic is back
Second is side
Third is how straight they got it. They say if you have short stray hairs they'll stick up the first day but then fall down (she has a few at her crown but they got hers pretty darn straight...temporarily of course which is what I love)
I am so excited about the possibility of this, and what it could do to make detangling and styling easier. They also sell the formula at their salon so maybe I can do home treatments after (noticed that on another site, don't know if it's still true though they do sell it to stylists and those w/ tax ids...may have to call my mom and ask her to purchase. She's not a stylist but is a biz owner w/ a tax id. Heck I may even ask my mom's stylist in Ky to call them and purchase it for me. They are best friends bawhahahaha!)HMMM
The first pic is back
Second is side
Third is how straight they got it. They say if you have short stray hairs they'll stick up the first day but then fall down (she has a few at her crown but they got hers pretty darn straight...temporarily of course which is what I love)
I am so excited about the possibility of this, and what it could do to make detangling and styling easier. They also sell the formula at their salon so maybe I can do home treatments after (noticed that on another site, don't know if it's still true though they do sell it to stylists and those w/ tax ids...may have to call my mom and ask her to purchase. She's not a stylist but is a biz owner w/ a tax id. Heck I may even ask my mom's stylist in Ky to call them and purchase it for me. They are best friends bawhahahaha!)HMMM
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GodMadeMePretty
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Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy. I googled this and my area and there's someone on craigslist advertising it for their salon. $300. Man, I really want this done but that's a bunch of money for me to spend on my hair.
I think I'm just going to pay for this lady at work to take the class so she can do it for me. She's in cosmetology school right now and I know she'll do it for me for less than $300. Taking the class is only $99. Plus I need her to know how to do it.
I think I'm just going to pay for this lady at work to take the class so she can do it for me. She's in cosmetology school right now and I know she'll do it for me for less than $300. Taking the class is only $99. Plus I need her to know how to do it.
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shae101s
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Wait so your hair if natural has to be damaged? DontSpeakDefeat, her dd was transitioning, with healthy natural I believe 4a/4b hair and it came out straight, and that girl, Brittany I think her name is, she had 4a/4b natural and no damage prior to it, and her results were fab. I'm confused. So if my hair is healthy, you're saying it's not a "good" sign if I get good results?
crazydaze911
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i dont agree with this. if ur hair is damaged it will be a more NOTICEABLE improvement, but the results are EXCELLENT on natural hair too, they just dont last as long and if ur hairs already super healthy perhaps ur used to it being shiny already. You will, however, def notice it will be easier to detangle. again im a 3c, 4a. dont know how 4b or 4zzzzzzz natural would turn out.
dontspeakdefeat
Hair Coach
It doesn't matter whether the hair is natural or relaxed. The results are great regardless. If the hair is damaged the results will be more dramatic. That's it.
naturalmanenyc
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Supposedly it does not last as long on "virgin" hair but I think transitioning hair is in a different category since one has relaxed and virgin hair on one head. BKT probably saves the relaxed ends from breakage.
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ella_belle
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Hey guys, I'm a newbie and I'm SERIOUSLY thinking of trying this out (my mum has insisted on the formaldehyde free, although I'm not too bothered - I'm a med student so I practically swim in the stuff on a regular basis). Just wondering what your hair regime is now, for anyone who has had it done? Do you still co-wash and DC as often as you did before (look at me, three days on the forum and I'm throwing these terms about like a pro)? Which products do you use - a lot of people have mentioned Elucence, but I'm not sure it's available in the UK.
Wanderland
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We are on the exact same page. I just order this off ebay earlier this week and felt comfortable doing so amid the health concern scare. I've spent a semester 12 hrs a day in a room with formaldehyde fumes I can deal with applying a little to my hair for a small transient period of time.
sheba1
New Member
Hey Ella Belle! You go ahead, throwing those terms about! And soon you'll be one of the few that has BKT'd, as well! I hope you enjoy your results
I have not BKT'd yet but I have researched A LOT and plan on BKTing soon. I've asked around and I've learned that washing and heat wears on the process. Whatever shampoo and conditioner you choose should be free of Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and must be free of Sodium Chloride. I also read that it may be best to use a shampoo and conditioner that has keratin to refill areas with each wash. FoxxyLissa1025 says she uses natural shampoos and her treatment lasts longer because of it.
I don't know of popular brands overseas but maybe you could take a look at some labels? Just make sure it doesn't have those two things.
I read an article that recommended Mill Creek's Keratin Shampoo and Conditioner. You can read the article here.
ella_belle
Member
Brilliant - thanks for that, I've been looking for a list of products that you can use with BKT, so that I can choose what works best for me. Hope everyone is still loving it!
SouthernTease
New Member
I am a writer I was doing a story on keratin treatment and a local stylist offered to do the $400 treatment for free. I am supposed to do it on Monday. It is supposed to be the formaldehyde free version. Since I've done my research I am happy to get it done --even excited. The only thing I'm concerned about is them trying to "trim" my hair. It will be my first time going to a stylist in over 2 years. I'm super anxious about it.
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