tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT
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Mz.MoMo5235
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@tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT whats so "OMG" about what I said?
Some people think that its about curl type. I'm showing that its not, its about the unity we have here as black women to support each other through this growing and accepting process. So whether you have type 3 or 4 we're in it together because we know each others story. A white woman with 3a hair isnt going to be in the same boat even if she does blow dry it straight everyday.
And I'm not mad at them for the bloggers for trying to get money. People seem to think that we're upset about them promoting them self. they can promote all they want but does it have to be at the expense of losing the fan base that got them to where they are to even be ask to get paid for blogging. If it werent for us these media companies wouldnt be handing them money to join their teams, so now they're getting paid they think they can just skip out on their loyal base group because they THINK they have this new found base group with the beckys by "including them to the team" when they're not going to stick around once Sarah or who ever starts who own thing promoting the "natural white woman"
And when quoting me, keep the full context of what I say. Rather than editing it to make it look what ever kind of way
Some people think that its about curl type. I'm showing that its not, its about the unity we have here as black women to support each other through this growing and accepting process. So whether you have type 3 or 4 we're in it together because we know each others story. A white woman with 3a hair isnt going to be in the same boat even if she does blow dry it straight everyday.
And I'm not mad at them for the bloggers for trying to get money. People seem to think that we're upset about them promoting them self. they can promote all they want but does it have to be at the expense of losing the fan base that got them to where they are to even be ask to get paid for blogging. If it werent for us these media companies wouldnt be handing them money to join their teams, so now they're getting paid they think they can just skip out on their loyal base group because they THINK they have this new found base group with the beckys by "including them to the team" when they're not going to stick around once Sarah or who ever starts who own thing promoting the "natural white woman"
And when quoting me, keep the full context of what I say. Rather than editing it to make it look what ever kind of way
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oneastrocurlie
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I've got nothing new to add really. I rarely actually read the CN home page. I stayed in the forums. I like bglh better for hair articles. Then CN jacked up the forum so there went that.
1QTPie
Elder Sim
CN had the power to keep her blog and take on other black bloggers. She could have taken then entire black portion of NC with her if she really wanted. She gave her power away.
BostonMaria
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If you guys scroll back a few years of CN's blog you'll see that in the beginning she tried to have WW on her blog. I'm talking about NC members that were highly regarded and knowledgable about hair. One woman in particular comes to mind... I think she went by The Curl Whisperer. Those posts were not very well received. I personally didn't mind (to a certain degree) but I think most readers prefer to receive advice from people that look like them so they can relate to the article. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Yes, they are trying to punish vloggers. A list of "who to support" and "who not to support" ??? As if these women did something to stop you from wearing your natural hair? I can name partnerships that each of those women on the "support" list have done with white companies.
Did we expect black bloggers and vloggers to pledge allegiance to the black nation of hair care? This is pretty ridiculous and way too politicized. What is the purpose of the "movement." Are we going to get women with natural hair a seat in the Senate or something? Like what is the actual goal here that is going to improve black people's lives?
This is the BEAUTY industry, let's keep it in perspective.
I don't know how many times I can say it, but "natural" was a thing before the "natural hair movement." Did you think Whole Foods and organic, natural living was inspired by the hair movement? Or was it here, with "natural hair products" on the shelves long before 2001?
There have been naturalistas, naturalists, and others "going natural" by living a chemical-free lifestyle for decades.
She didn't "give her power away." She leveraged her brand to do what SHE wanted to do. Maybe SHE didn't want to "take on other black bloggers." Maybe that was not her career goal.
She could start a product line. She could do this, she could do that, but she doesn't want to. She is making a living off blogging, making appearances, and she wrote a book. It's not Nikki's job to be the builder-upper of other black blogs.
I could easily say that a black vlogger like Jouelzy needs to start her own YouTube network and take on other black vloggers instead of "giving her power away" by joining a predominately white YouTube network (Makers Studio), but who am I to deem her responsible for building up other black vloggers?
kikisf
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IDK. I used to do CN and naturallycurly.com CT but stopped because there are not enough 4 (especially 4b/c!) women on those sites. I can't tell you how many times I have rolled my eyes at someone's hair journey when they finally reveal their natural type 3 curls. They have the kind of hair that my grandmother would say didn't "need" a relaxer in the first place. It does not surprise me that a white woman was featured and that she picked up tips from CN. If I decided to go natural again I would stick to the sites celebrate and represent the hair that many grandmothers called "nappy" or more commonly "bad" hair!
aquajoyice
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Those that don't understand the movement will never get it. With that being said it clearly isn't for
you and that's okay.
The Natural Hair Movement is for BW that need support to accept what is natural to us. There is no way that a non BW could ever understand the hardships that we've had to ensure which is why it wasn't created for them. If they have challenges then they need to come together and create their own movement. Comparing YT to the struggles of black hair is like comparing apples to lettuce.
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Femmefatal1981
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Relaxed folks in here arguing about the natural hair movement...smh
sunnieb
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I'll come back and respond to you tomorrow. Thanks.
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Nah this isn't about the relaxed ladies. Let's not lose focus.
Besides most of them seem to agree with us when there are naturals who are telling us this doesn't matter.
Please, don't.
MileHighDiva
A+ Hair Care Queen
Agreed, plus the relaxed heads have just as much of a vested interest in how we're represented, and how we "gate keep" our movements of self acceptance.
They probably have daughters, mothers, sistahs etc. that are natural etc.
Mz.MoMo5235
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DONT FALL FOR THE BAIT! Stay focused on what this is really about.
krikit96
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When I first got here I was relaxed (2008)... here we are 6 years later, I've transitioned and am now fully natural. Just cuz your relaxed don't mean you ain't relating or ain't able to pick a side and stand.
This entire ww in the movement thing is doing exactly what was secretly intended - cause confusion and division. They think this is entertaining... what happened to a United front? We can't achieve unity within our lil small bw hair community, how are we fighting each other to bring THEM in, so they can set up more traps?
Mz.MoMo5235
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Serenity_Peace
Genius never dies!
My girl SupremeDejhan could not have put it more plainly or said it more emphatically. Her words are simply beautiful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0MXrHWxgKk
Video at link above.
Kurlee
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so individualism?! Gotcha. Everyone has a price.
NaturallyATLPCH
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Loved it. I subscribed. Powerful message and so well put!
sunnieb
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Don't hurt her girl
I'll leave it alone. Ya'll know how I feel.
I grow natural hair out of my scalp daily. I was also the " nappy headed" little girl with"bad" hair. I'm black. I know exactly what natural ladies go through.
There's no place for Becky in this.
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MissC320
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Because thanks was NOT ENOUGH
......... Yeah I'm looking atchu! (Not you Femmefatal)
PinkSunshine77
New York's Finest
*prances through the Tulips*
marta9227
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Lets not fall for the divide and conquer.
alex114
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I am not sure what to say anymore, because I am somewhat alarmed by the hair blog articles cropping up with white women claiming that they are 'natural', and 'transitioning', but I really just have to evaluate my feelings and wonder. Sometimes I feel like this is something that could become a huge act of cultural thievery, and no, I don't feel comfortable knowing that there are ww who fancy themselves as going through a journey anything like the ones experienced by black women.
But how can they truly steal this from us if we continue to help and support each other? And on that note, is CN not someone who helps and supports many newly naturals, and does the threat that she poses to the 'purity' and unity of the movement truly occasion forgetting all of the women that she's educated and helped? I just don't know.
But how can they truly steal this from us if we continue to help and support each other? And on that note, is CN not someone who helps and supports many newly naturals, and does the threat that she poses to the 'purity' and unity of the movement truly occasion forgetting all of the women that she's educated and helped? I just don't know.
Femmefatal1981
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sunnieb
My comment wasn't directed at you but since you responded let me elaborate.
It was directed specifically to relaxed heads on the Becky rescue mission. If you are relaxed and you support the natural hair movement then more power to you but to come in here and try to tell me I should accept Becky? I'm well within my rights to come for you.
And it's comments like this that's going to keep Becky and 'em trying to get in. Makes us look like a bunch of discriminatory bitter ol' ABW. What about women that have been natural for years and are a part of the NHM and then they decide to relax for styling reasons? We kick them out? Come on now. Ridiculous. Not everyone that has a relaxer hates their natural hair you know.
And the fact remains, no matter how hard Becky's hair is to manage she won't be getting a relaxer and will never understand why that is even something considered. A relaxed BLACK woman would. I can't believe how all of these threads have lost focus. Got people in here talking about relaxed heads don't belong.
P.S. I'm natural btw.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
I understand where your coming from, however, we need to come together as a people and embrace each other without fear of discrimination against each other. That's out problem. Not hair, but our state of thinking and it's crippling us. No one has to know your reason for relaxing or being natural, the fact is that we all go through the same struggle and discrimination and we shouldn't have to deal with it from each other. I know what it's like to be natural, I've been there. Does it make me less of a black person that I don't want to deal with it but will support my natural sisters? No it doesn't.
Bleach blonde Becky, curly perm Becky and fire crotch Becky still help each other out at the end of the day and are getting ahead together; you think they care about who is using chemicals? No ma'am, they are not.
EnExitStageLeft
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Question: I'm still half relaxed, does this means that I can only halfway support the natural hair community?
.....EXACTLY!
Support is support. Whether its from a 2c-4c natural, A transitioner, or a Bone straight relaxed head. Let's not lose focus and turn on our own shall we.
Please and Thanks
.....EXACTLY!Support is support. Whether its from a 2c-4c natural, A transitioner, or a Bone straight relaxed head. Let's not lose focus and turn on our own shall we.
Please and Thanks
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