Black Ambrosia
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There was a 5 year old girl in Detroit that passed a few months ago. No health issues they were aware of.
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dancinstallion
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COVID-19 Fatality Rate Down 30% Since April Study Finds
By Deena BeasleyNovember 16, 2020
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(Reuters) - The likelihood that a coronavirus infection will prove fatal has dropped by nearly a third since April due to improved treatment, researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) said on Thursday.
In the United States, COVID-19 now kills about 0.6% of people infected with the virus, compared with around 0.9% early in the pandemic, IHME Director Dr. Christopher Murray told Reuters.
He said statistics reflect that doctors have figured out better ways to care for patients, including the use of blood thinners and oxygen support. Effective treatments, such as the generic steroid dexamethasone, have also been identified.
Experts have struggled to accurately measure a crucial metric in the pandemic: the fatality rate, or percentage of people infected with the pathogen who are likely to die. The difficulty is exacerbated by the fact that many people who become infected do not experience symptoms and are never identified.
IHME said it had been using an infection-fatality rate (IFR) derived from surveys after accounting for age. Older people are at much higher risk of dying from COVID-19 than younger people.
"We know the risk is profoundly age-related. For every one year of age, the risk of death increases by 9%," Murray said.
The Seattle institute, an influential source of COVID-19 forecasts (https://bit.ly/35sTESX), said it has also determined that the fatality rate for COVID-19 is worse in communities with high levels of obesity.
The group said it has now switched to an IFR that varies over time - declining since the first pandemic wave in March and April by around 0.19% per day until the beginning of September.
It also varies across locations as a function of obesity prevalence, and continues to vary based on population distribution by age.
IHME said its analysis of age-standardized fatality rates from more than 300 surveys suggests a 30% decline since March/April.
Despite that positive trend, infections and hospitalizations have spiked across the country in recent weeks. The group said its modeling suggests 439,000 cumulative U.S. deaths by March 1, and a peak of daily deaths in mid-January at 2,200.
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Cite this: COVID-19 Fatality Rate Down 30% Since April Study Finds - Medscape - Nov 13, 2020.
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dancinstallion
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COVID-19 Fatality Rate Down 30% Since April Study Finds
By Deena Beasley
November 16, 2020
- ADD TO EMAIL ALERTS
(Reuters) - The likelihood that a coronavirus infection will prove fatal has dropped by nearly a third since April due to improved treatment, researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) said on Thursday.
In the United States, COVID-19 now kills about 0.6% of people infected with the virus, compared with around 0.9% early in the pandemic, IHME Director Dr. Christopher Murray told Reuters.
He said statistics reflect that doctors have figured out better ways to care for patients, including the use of blood thinners and oxygen support. Effective treatments, such as the generic steroid dexamethasone, have also been identified.
Experts have struggled to accurately measure a crucial metric in the pandemic: the fatality rate, or percentage of people infected with the pathogen who are likely to die. The difficulty is exacerbated by the fact that many people who become infected do not experience symptoms and are never identified.
IHME said it had been using an infection-fatality rate (IFR) derived from surveys after accounting for age. Older people are at much higher risk of dying from COVID-19 than younger people.
"We know the risk is profoundly age-related. For every one year of age, the risk of death increases by 9%," Murray said.
The Seattle institute, an influential source of COVID-19 forecasts (https://bit.ly/35sTESX), said it has also determined that the fatality rate for COVID-19 is worse in communities with high levels of obesity.
The group said it has now switched to an IFR that varies over time - declining since the first pandemic wave in March and April by around 0.19% per day until the beginning of September.
It also varies across locations as a function of obesity prevalence, and continues to vary based on population distribution by age.
IHME said its analysis of age-standardized fatality rates from more than 300 surveys suggests a 30% decline since March/April.
Despite that positive trend, infections and hospitalizations have spiked across the country in recent weeks. The group said its modeling suggests 439,000 cumulative U.S. deaths by March 1, and a peak of daily deaths in mid-January at 2,200.
Reuters Health Information © 2020
Cite this: COVID-19 Fatality Rate Down 30% Since April Study Finds - Medscape - Nov 13, 2020.
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My brother in law who lives in a hotspot in Texas says the media is exaggerating. Dh told him they are building tents in your city and he said he hasn't seen any and why dont we talk about all the survivors. Brother is law is a Physician Assistant by the way.
Dh said his brother sounds like me at the beginning of the pandemic. Even if the death rate is below 1%; I think people, especially medical professionals, should be careful what we say generally because Covid is taking lives and whole families out and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
Covid-19 still isnt real for far too many people and we are 8-9 months into the pandemic. At this point there is no way to convince those people unless they experience it one way or another.
B_Phlyy
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I agree with your BIL but only on the part that we should talk about the survivors. Many are focusing on the low fatality rate but not the permanent adverse lifestyle changes people have to make due to a COVID diagnosis. We have patients who were positive back in March and April who are still complaining of daily coughing due to COVID. Or patients with no previously significant cardiac problems now on antihypertensive meds and blood thinners. So yes, these people are still alive, but they are not healthy and now have to have a litany of medication and specialists they have to see.
Someone stated earlier when the pandemic started that the worst thing about this virus is that the signs and symptoms were so subtle people weren't buying it as real. And that unfortunately has proved to be true which is why this is still out of control. Because if the symptoms of this were crying blood with uncontrollable diarrhea, there would have been no issue with mask wearing and a stay at home order.
Black Ambrosia
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I feel like this is something all black people should touch and agree on. There are no unicorns here. If it's not impacting you directly, it's still touching your family and friends. If the numbers keep going up, it'll just get closer to home.
We don't have the luxury of ignorance.
We don't have the luxury of ignorance.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I noticed that as the number of cases has skyrocketed the death rate was down after the super spreader holidays in May-June but but black folks are only 14%-15% of the population. When Covid hits a black city and die it's a blip in the map vs the overall numbers. We have high comorbidity rates aside from just obesity I would bet that the "healthy" black people who die from Covid carry the sickle cell anemia trait and don't know they had it. It's going to be years before all the nuance about who this virus is killing, why and the long term effects so the best thing people can do is avoid getting it in the first place.
I had a locksmith come to the office and he was humble bragging about how he had Covid back in March and "it wasn't so bad". He has no idea what could still be going on in his body due to the virus but he's preaching the gospel of nonchalance which I'm finding common with the people who get it .
I had a locksmith come to the office and he was humble bragging about how he had Covid back in March and "it wasn't so bad". He has no idea what could still be going on in his body due to the virus but he's preaching the gospel of nonchalance which I'm finding common with the people who get it .
naturalgyrl5199
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Those LONG HAULERS are going to have their story heard. Alyssa Milano posted about her hair still falling out months later. So sad. I think it was posted here.
Black Ambrosia
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Yep. I’ve definitely seen that up close. Humble bragging and talking about the only people who die were already gonna die while fearful about going back to the nursing home he runs and most likely got it from. Like pick a side and stick with it. Either you’re too healthy for it to take you down or it’s a real threat. He’s an
btw if you couldn’t tell.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
WHAT THEE MAYNNNNNN!?!?!?!?
“I made a bad mistake," he said. “Instead of sitting down, I should have stood up and walked back, got in my car and drove back to my house.
“Instead, I chose to sit there with my wife and a number of other couples that were outside the household.” The group at the party on 6 November included people from several different households. California currently limits events to no more than three households. A spokesperson for Gov. Newsom initially said that the dinner did not violate state restrictions as it was held outdoors and that everyone followed guidelines and wore face masks. But Gov. Newsom accepted he had broken the “spirit” of his state’s guidelines. “You can quibble about the guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, but the spirit of what I'm preaching all the time was contradicted and I got to own that. “And so I want to apologize to you, because I need to preach and practice, not just preach and not practice, and I've done my best to do that.
“We're all human. We all fall short sometimes.”
State guidance, which was updated on 9 October, does not specify if the three household limitation applies to outdoor dining.
But the state’s Department of Health has mandated that multiple household gatherings are held outside, where transmission risks are lower, and last for less than two hours.
MAYNNNNNN!?!?!?!? Gavin Newsom apologizes for breaking lockdown to go to a dinner party as California put under new rules
The governor was part of a group of more than 12 people who went to the birthday celebration at Napa’s famed French Laundry
California governor Gavin Newsom has apologized for the “bad mistake” he made in attending a birthday party that defied the state’s Covid-19 restrictions. Gov. Newsom was part of a group of more than 12 people who celebrated the birthday of political advisor Jason Kinney at the famed French Laundry restaurant in Napa Valley. The governor said that as soon as he arrived at the party he realized the group was larger than anticipated.“I made a bad mistake," he said. “Instead of sitting down, I should have stood up and walked back, got in my car and drove back to my house.
“Instead, I chose to sit there with my wife and a number of other couples that were outside the household.” The group at the party on 6 November included people from several different households. California currently limits events to no more than three households. A spokesperson for Gov. Newsom initially said that the dinner did not violate state restrictions as it was held outdoors and that everyone followed guidelines and wore face masks. But Gov. Newsom accepted he had broken the “spirit” of his state’s guidelines. “You can quibble about the guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, but the spirit of what I'm preaching all the time was contradicted and I got to own that. “And so I want to apologize to you, because I need to preach and practice, not just preach and not practice, and I've done my best to do that.
“We're all human. We all fall short sometimes.”
State guidance, which was updated on 9 October, does not specify if the three household limitation applies to outdoor dining.
But the state’s Department of Health has mandated that multiple household gatherings are held outside, where transmission risks are lower, and last for less than two hours.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
The fact that whoever threw that party and invited the governor knowing they were in full violation of the governors rules shows that his sorry is about being caught. That his natural inclination when he saw what could have easily been a super spreader event was not to pull somebody aside and cuss them out for putting him in that situation and demand that they either get in compliance or get gone let me know he is not getting my vote in the next election. I am tired of these damn politicians not being ready for prime time when I'm out here every day trying to keep people in my field of influence safe. I know that I can only do so much but I expect the people who can do much more to actually do it especially when they talk cash poo about how the other side falls down on the job.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Meanwhile in a Burger King at (the state I ran as far as I could get from at 18) Michigan. The "Queen" is Big Gretch, the governor.
lavaflow99
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Like Ebola.
PatDM'T
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Good for youMeanwhile in a Burger King at (the state I ran as far as I could get from at 18) Michigan. The "Queen" is Big Gretch, the governor.
for running away.
I am convinced
many people
from MI
are inbreeds.
(Ooh did I
say that out
loud?)
I applaud the
ladies trying
to keep everyone
safe against a tide
of ignoramuses.
TrulyBlessed
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This is genius lol
Lylddlebit
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I don't have a lot of hope that we can stop fools from being fools amongst fools. However I am still mad that the police knocked on my door the other night and had the wrong address with about 10 emergency vehicles outside given that my household has taken social distancing and health measures seriously since March and someone in need likely made that 911 call. I just want to avoid reckless, irresponsible and unintelligent folk. I feel really bad for those who would social distance if they could but don't have the means to side step fools in this time. When I see stories like this I get irritated. I know there are natural consequence's to reckless folks being dumb but I get irritated at the thought of the servers who have to go to work and be around that...the nurses and doctors who have to treat them if they get sick. Stuff like that. People who are reckless with themselves are rarely mindful of others and don't get me wrong, I have my PPE and limit my need to go anywhere these days but it's still troubling to see these examples.WHAT THEE
Gavin Newsom apologizes for breaking lockdown to go to a dinner party as California put under new rules
The governor was part of a group of more than 12 people who went to the birthday celebration at Napa’s famed French Laundry
California governor Gavin Newsom has apologized for the “bad mistake” he made in attending a birthday party that defied the state’s Covid-19 restrictions. Gov. Newsom was part of a group of more than 12 people who celebrated the birthday of political advisor Jason Kinney at the famed French Laundry restaurant in Napa Valley. The governor said that as soon as he arrived at the party he realized the group was larger than anticipated.
“I made a bad mistake," he said. “Instead of sitting down, I should have stood up and walked back, got in my car and drove back to my house.
“Instead, I chose to sit there with my wife and a number of other couples that were outside the household.” The group at the party on 6 November included people from several different households. California currently limits events to no more than three households. A spokesperson for Gov. Newsom initially said that the dinner did not violate state restrictions as it was held outdoors and that everyone followed guidelines and wore face masks. But Gov. Newsom accepted he had broken the “spirit” of his state’s guidelines. “You can quibble about the guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, but the spirit of what I'm preaching all the time was contradicted and I got to own that. “And so I want to apologize to you, because I need to preach and practice, not just preach and not practice, and I've done my best to do that.
“We're all human. We all fall short sometimes.”
State guidance, which was updated on 9 October, does not specify if the three household limitation applies to outdoor dining.
But the state’s Department of Health has mandated that multiple household gatherings are held outside, where transmission risks are lower, and last for less than two hours.
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Everything Zen
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WHAT THEE
Gavin Newsom apologizes for breaking lockdown to go to a dinner party as California put under new rules
The governor was part of a group of more than 12 people who went to the birthday celebration at Napa’s famed French Laundry
California governor Gavin Newsom has apologized for the “bad mistake” he made in attending a birthday party that defied the state’s Covid-19 restrictions. Gov. Newsom was part of a group of more than 12 people who celebrated the birthday of political advisor Jason Kinney at the famed French Laundry restaurant in Napa Valley. The governor said that as soon as he arrived at the party he realized the group was larger than anticipated.
“I made a bad mistake," he said. “Instead of sitting down, I should have stood up and walked back, got in my car and drove back to my house.
“Instead, I chose to sit there with my wife and a number of other couples that were outside the household.” The group at the party on 6 November included people from several different households. California currently limits events to no more than three households. A spokesperson for Gov. Newsom initially said that the dinner did not violate state restrictions as it was held outdoors and that everyone followed guidelines and wore face masks. But Gov. Newsom accepted he had broken the “spirit” of his state’s guidelines. “You can quibble about the guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, but the spirit of what I'm preaching all the time was contradicted and I got to own that. “And so I want to apologize to you, because I need to preach and practice, not just preach and not practice, and I've done my best to do that.
“We're all human. We all fall short sometimes.”
State guidance, which was updated on 9 October, does not specify if the three household limitation applies to outdoor dining.
But the state’s Department of Health has mandated that multiple household gatherings are held outside, where transmission risks are lower, and last for less than two hours.
He’s suspect anyway based on his previous choice in women.
Black Ambrosia
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Details please.
Black Ambrosia
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This reminds me of a pic I saw early in this thing where a guy was wearing an upside down bucket or jug on his head while riding the train. No one was impressed back then.
Everything Zen
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Gavin Newsom on ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle's fiery speech: 'Next question'
Gov. Gavin Newsom declined to comment about ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle’s speech on the opening night of the Republican National Convention, when she portrayed the state as a dystopia presided over by Democrats.
meka72
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His ex wife is Garbage Jr’s current booger sugar partner.
Black Ambrosia
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Gavin Newsom on ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle's fiery speech: 'Next question'
Gov. Gavin Newsom declined to comment about ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle’s speech on the opening night of the Republican National Convention, when she portrayed the state as a dystopia presided over by Democrats.www.google.com
I had no idea. Can't imagine them together.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
There's few things that would make me happier now than if Covid could be contained only to the people running around acting reckless. Almost every case of Covid that I've had to do contact tracing on is because people stubbornly did the exact opposite of what they were told to do.
sunshinebeautiful
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Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Why somebody ALWAYS pulling their mask down?
There is nothing about her nose being exposed that makes that picture better.
natural2008
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What you know that we don’t know, lol?
Edited: nevermind I read what you typed above.
Debbie Morgan will always have that 'young' appearance.
But she'll never fit inside of the door of the restroom with that space hood on... 
(which I wouldn't be using anyway... due to the "space" limitations)
Why is it that 'folks' only apologize AFTER they get caught? They don't mean it.
vevster
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SMH ----WHAT THEE
Gavin Newsom apologizes for breaking lockdown to go to a dinner party as California put under new rules
The governor was part of a group of more than 12 people who went to the birthday celebration at Napa’s famed French Laundry
California governor Gavin Newsom has apologized for the “bad mistake” he made in attending a birthday party that defied the state’s Covid-19 restrictions. Gov. Newsom was part of a group of more than 12 people who celebrated the birthday of political advisor Jason Kinney at the famed French Laundry restaurant in Napa Valley. The governor said that as soon as he arrived at the party he realized the group was larger than anticipated.
“I made a bad mistake," he said. “Instead of sitting down, I should have stood up and walked back, got in my car and drove back to my house.
“Instead, I chose to sit there with my wife and a number of other couples that were outside the household.” The group at the party on 6 November included people from several different households. California currently limits events to no more than three households. A spokesperson for Gov. Newsom initially said that the dinner did not violate state restrictions as it was held outdoors and that everyone followed guidelines and wore face masks. But Gov. Newsom accepted he had broken the “spirit” of his state’s guidelines. “You can quibble about the guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, but the spirit of what I'm preaching all the time was contradicted and I got to own that. “And so I want to apologize to you, because I need to preach and practice, not just preach and not practice, and I've done my best to do that.
“We're all human. We all fall short sometimes.”
State guidance, which was updated on 9 October, does not specify if the three household limitation applies to outdoor dining.
But the state’s Department of Health has mandated that multiple household gatherings are held outside, where transmission risks are lower, and last for less than two hours.
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