Vitamin question(s)

NAY007

New Member
I'm back into taking vitamins.
I take on multivitamin (one a day for women)
Biotin
Silica
on some days flaxseed oil

Now my question is what does MSM stand for and what does it do for you (or your hair/skin)

Which on is better to take: Flaxseed or Evening Pimrose (and what does it do for you?)

And has anybody here tried the Hair formula 37 or whatever it is called? What were your results?

Thanks everybody,

Nay.
 

sassygirl125

Professional PJ
MSM is 'Methyl Sulfonyl Methane'. Some kind of sulfur... Supposedly it makes hair softer and stronger. It is also supposed to be able to lengthen the growth cycle of your hair because keratin is created from MSM. This will explain it better! /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

MSM Info

EPO and Flax soften and moisturize skin and hair from the inside to the outside. Our bodies don't naturally produce the essential fatty acids found in these supplements. (Gamma Linoleic Acid and something else I can't think of right now...) I take them both. If I could only pick one I guess it would be the flax.

I ordered two "Try Me Specials" of the HF 37. After emptying the bottles, I didn't see a difference in my hair so I never ordered any more. IMO, GNC Ultra Nourishhair or Country Life Maxi Hair would be better choices. And a heck of a lot cheaper.
 

NAY007

New Member
thanks sassygirl, I really thought I would get way more answers on this topic since so many ladies here take supplements/vitamins but oh well /images/graemlins/frown.gif.....
thanks for that link too /images/graemlins/wink.gif,
Nay.
 

beana3

Active Member
i';m thinking of getting back on the vits too! Like you, I noticed pimples while on the vits, but maybe it was becuse of something else (stress). I'm going to copy your regime b/c it sounds sooo simple.

I've taken MSM before and i did notice softer hair in some areas of my hair. I only took 1000mg a day because i was afraid of the potential breakouts.

I loved EPO and flax in my regime. I would suggest you take it. It made my skin look "richer".

I'm planning on taking
EPO 500mg
MSM 1000mg
Multi softegel
Biotin 5mg
B-5 1000mg split dosages (my hair is baby fine)
 

caramelbarbie

New Member
<font color="blue">Hey Nay!
I've been taking msm for about 6 months. I've had no side effects. my skin looks great. I didn't have the break out problem like some of the ladies here.
I've been taking EFA also it contains fax and borage oil as well as fish oil. I notice that my legs aren't as dry anymore.
What are these vitamins doing for my hair?? well i'm not 100%sure ..... yet. I'll only make clams of grown if i'm sure. I am sure that my skin has never looked better and my scalp looks great....no dry skin or anything.
Hope this helps you a bit *smile* /images/graemlins/drunk.gif </font>
 

NAY007

New Member
Thanks caramelbarbie,

I think I will use the Flaxseed every day now instead of just every other day. I also think that it takes a couple of months until you can really see a change in your hair(quality/growth).
Nay.
 

Integrity

Active Member
Nay007 do a search on Bargello on this board, she pretty much explains what all the vitamins do.

I take MSM 750mg per day and EPO at 1000mg per day. my skin is glowing and my roots are much much softer!
 

adf23

Well-Known Member
Not to rain on the MSM parade (lol) but it made my skin breakout.

Then again, I have sensitive breakout prone skin- shoot, even the little bit of MSM in Ultra Nourish Hair made me breakout!

I had to stop taking it. On the other hand, I LOVE Flaxseed Oil. It is great for your skin, moisturizes your hair from within, yada, yada. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

notsomebody

Active Member
definitely read Bargello's vitamin regimen. It explains that you should be taking flax and EPO not one or the other. Both provide EFA's but they provide two separate types of EFA's. The way she explained it, you need both of them to be balanced.
 

daviine

Well-Known Member
I believe Flaxseed has Omega 3 and EPO is a source of Omeaga 6. And, I think I read somewhere that there is also an Omeag-9. Too lazy to check my references though. Sorry. /images/graemlins/ohwell.gif
 

Integrity

Active Member
There you go Nay007, I have highlighted the info you were interested in. Enjoy!


By: Bargello
longhairlovers.com
Growing Out Message Board

Vitamins are very important for not just the growth of hair but for overall health. After doing years of research on vitamins, I have found what vitamins work and what ones don't. My overall health has improved 200% since starting my vitamin program. And healthy body means healthy nails, skin, and hair.

Multivitamin: I believe everyone needs to be on a good multivitamin. You need a vitamin that contains at least 100% of the most of the recommended daily nutrients. I am very partial to Vitaminshoppe's One A Day vitamin. This is an excellent vitamin for overall health. Note that it does not contain iron. This might be a concern and might not be. Most menstruating women can benefit from extra iron in their diets. If you happen to be a woman that becomes iron deficient easily, you might just wish to add in an extra iron supplement. By not having iron, this makes a good supplement for men, teens, and post-menopausal women.

Calcium: We all need calcium in our diet. This is something that is an absolute necessity. There is some calcium in the above multivitamin, but not enough. Remember that when taking calcium you also need Vitamin D and Magnesium for the calcium to be absorbed properly. Most multivitamins will contain Vitamin D and Magnesium.

Now for the vitamins which promote healthy hair, skin, and nails.

Hair Vitamins: I like a good hair vitamin to start my program. There are several out there. GNC's Ultra Nourishair is probably one of the best I have seen. It is what I take and is the absolute heart of my program. I am a firm believer in this vitamin. It contains all the necessary vitamins needed for healthy hair.

Note: I do not like the vitamins that state for Hair, Skin, and Nails. They generally have less than you really need of the necessary vitamins for healthy hair, skin, and nails. I am not sure why, but they do. If you take a good hair vitamin, your skin and nails will automatically benefit.

MSM: This vitamin is very important for healthy hair, muscles, and joints. It helps to decrease hair fall out. It does this by assisting in making the growth stage of the hair longer. The longer you are able to retain the root, the longer you hair will grow. You may take up to 2000mg/day. Note: Ultra Nourishair contains 500mg of MSM. I take an additional 1000mg/day.
Silica: Helps in the shine of hair. It is also a very valuable antioxidant. It assists in a lot of other areas other than just helping your hair be soft and shiny. There is silica in the Ultra Nourishair; I take an additional 500mg/day.

Evening Primrose: There is so much to say about this essential fatty acid. It contains Omega-6 Fatty Acid (Gamma-Linolenic Acid). This is a good Omega-6 Fatty Acid. It has several benefits of which I will only name a few. Some of the benefits are reducing PMS, clearing up eczema, helping your skin glow, minimize fine wrinkles, reduce cholesterol, help with your metabolism, and cure hair and nail problems. It helps nourish straw-like hair. You really only need 480-960 mg of GLA to reap wonderful benefits. I personally take 500mg/day. You should see results with Evening Primrose as early as 2 weeks of daily consumption. Your scalp should feel less dry and the hair growing in should feel softer and more nourished.
Flaxseed Oil: Now flaxseed Oil is wonderful in the sense that it contains both Alpha-Linolenic Acid (Omega-3 Fatty Acid) and Gamma-Linolenic Acid (Omega-6 Fatty Acid). Omega-3 is very important in our bodies too. We need both to help maintain a healthy body. Omega-3 has been know the help ADD/ADHD (Attention Deficit Disorder). It is also essential for healthy hair, skin, and nails. It helps hair in the same way Omega-6 does. Why take both? Because the cells of the body need both to work properly. Our bodies do not make either of the Fatty Acids, we must supplement. Taking both will help the cells of the body work more efficiently and in return help growth of hair as well as health of hair and body. I take 500mg/day. I really don't think you need more than that, but experiment. You might find your body does need more. Biotin: Now biotin is what really can boost your hair growth. Skin, nails, and hair rely on biotin to grow. So, if we feed our bodies more biotin, then our skin will look better, and our nails will be stronger, and our hair will grow faster and stronger. My hair vitamin contains 1200mcg of biotin. I take an additional 2400mcg/day. I have played with the dosage a little and have found that my hair definitely grows faster with the total biotin of 3600mcg/day. You might need to play with this too. You might need more or less than I do for results.

Protein: I can't scream enough about protein. We need it. I don't care if it plant or animal. Truthfully your body can absorb and utilize plant protein better than animal. This is why vegetarians are incredibly healthy. I drink a protein shake everyday with my vitamins. I drink it with milk (it tastes better and I get extra calcium and protein with the milk), vegans can make a protein drink with soymilk (get it with calcium added and you have the benefits of extra vegetable protein and calcium). Adding protein to your diet will help your body all the way around. It will function better and you will not be as hungry all the time. I suggest a protein drink of at least 22gr. of protein. I suggest at least one serving a day. If your diet is really bad, you can drink more. The extra protein will also help your hair grow. It is protein too, you know.

With all this said, everyone is DIFFERENT! You might need more of something than I do, or less. Vitamins are personal things. You need to play with them to get the correct dosage for you. They are not a cure all. They can help your body in ways you wouldn't think about. I have tried to keep the above information brief. I could write pages about each vitamin and why you should take it. The above program works very well for me. My hair grows at the speed of 1 ½" per month. One thing to always remember, when starting a vitamin program, don't expect results overnight. It will take your body 2-6 weeks to benefit from vitamins. This time period depends on how depleted your system is. The average time being 4 weeks. If you are recovering from a serious illness, it could take longer.

One word about prenatal supplements. I personally do not think they will boost hair growth anymore than a good multivitamin. There are a lot of good over-the-counter prenatals out there. I like Natrol probably the best. When I sat down and actually compared the ingredients in prenatal vitamins and multivitamins, the multivitamin actually had more than the prenatals did. Prenatal vitamins do contain extra iron (for anemia), folic acid (for birth defects), and potassium (to help with muscle cramps). Now, none of those ingredients will boost hair growth. I have had 3 pregnancies and I have NEVER taken prenatal vitamins. When I presented my vitamin program to my OB-GYN, each one has stated that they could not have put together a better vitamin program for overall health during pregnancy and after. They have never prescribed a prenatal for me. There really was no need.

If you wish to take a prenatal in addition to a good multivitamin, by all means do. The only reason I think doctors have stated that there has been a boost in hair growth is that generally people don't take vitamins until they get pregnant. They take a prenatal and their hair starts to grow. They think it is the prenatal when in fact it is just getting some good vitamins in the system and the result of pregnancy itself. Pregnancy can cause your hair to grow faster as your body is renewing things a lot faster.

**As of 4/22/2002 Bargello has increased her intake of Biotin to 7500 mcg/day.
 

LondonDiva

New Member
Even though it's not good to have a breakout, the MSM is actually detoxifying your system and the impurites can be shown in the form of a breakout. Luckily for me I never experienced this, but even if I did I know it would make me want to leave the MSM alone. That's a shame that happened, because the benefits of that supplement are supposed to be amazing for all round health as well as the hair.
 

LondonDiva

New Member
Even though that wasn't for me, thanks for finding and sharing that info Pandora. I'm trying to get healthy again and treat my body like a temple /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

daviine

Well-Known Member
Girl--you too Diva? You should see me here trying to figure out what I need in my supplements. As I said before, I just pop 'em but I need to read labels carefully.

My Essential Oils from PP only has 96 mg of GLA and my multi has only 50 mg of Calcium........

Forget my hair...I'm not trying to be all hunched over with long hair......

I'm sitting here trying to evaluate my diet.
 

NAY007

New Member
Thank you sooo much Pandora!!!!
I will print this out. I already ordered some MSM yesterday from drugstore.com. And now I will look for some EPO. But then sometimes I think if it is really healthy to swallow all these pills. Especially when I think about that I will be taking some forever.....
what do you guys think about that???
 

LondonDiva

New Member
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Honeyhips said:
Does MSM cause headaches?

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Honeyhips I have heard that MSM has caused headaches and breakouts for some of the ladies on the board. I personally haven't experienced this with MSM.
 

londongirl3

New Member
Honey hips, MSM does cause breakouts and headaches because MSM also detoxifies your body. It is recommended that you drink an extra 1 litre to 2 litres of water a day to help with getting rid of the toxins which cause these side effects.

I found that information by searching MSM on google. There are some great sites out there!
 
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