LittleLuxe
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...Ugh. You owe me $500 for the stomach pump boo, I just swallowed 7 skittles whole because of you.
Why does everyone want to "train" natural hair?
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...Ugh. You owe me $500 for the stomach pump boo, I just swallowed 7 skittles whole because of you.
ita if you wanna be straight 24/7...but about the sistas who want to wear their natural hair straight only some of the time? what are they supposed to do?
pookaloo83
New Member
Exactly. To say someone's mindset is backwards because you don't agree with it is just......dumb actually.
Why is it a crime to wear your natural hair straight all the time if you want to? You are still natural am I correct? It's just straight. NO CHEMICALS. One wearing their hair not straightened does NOT make you better than the one who does. Just sayin. Some people are just so EXTRA.
thank you!!!...some kinky haired folks are always so extra on this subject matter.
What if their hair cannot tolerate the chemicals of a relaxer? Then what?
you bring up a good point. i stand corrected. if you are a natural sista and want to wear your hair straight 24/7... then by all means break out the hot comb or flat iron and do what makes you happy!
DrC
Well-Known Member
...Ugh. You owe me $500 for the stomach pump boo, I just swallowed 7 skittles whole because of you.
your stomach dont hurt yet?? 
pretty_nappy_hair
New Member
Wow. Anyway. I'm natural and when I press my hair it wont stay that way for long. But as a kid I don't remember having a problem with my hair snapping back. I guess it was heat trained but it was not broken off or anything. I actually looked a lot healthier than it does now. Natural hair is a lot more difficult for me to care for. But that's just me and MY hair.
Break out the flat iron or hot comb and straighten?
*goes back to read OP*
Nowhere did she say she didn't understand why some naturals straighten on the regular. She asked what's up with so many people thinking natural hair had to be "trained" into a straight style and how she thought trained = heat damage.
**Goes back to re-read responses to see if anyone actually answered the question**
Nowhere did she say she didn't understand why some naturals straighten on the regular. She asked what's up with so many people thinking natural hair had to be "trained" into a straight style and how she thought trained = heat damage.
**Goes back to re-read responses to see if anyone actually answered the question**
dynamic1
Well-Known Member
I do not think "training" has to equal damage. The front of my hair is easier to pull back the more frequently I do it. The more I wear it down the more it snaps back over time. My sis went from a kinky curly natural to straight than back again. By the end of several months, her hair tightened up to her original texture (no big trim or breakage).
My stylist told me I needed to stop neglecting a section of my hair during the detangling process. She indicated it would be easier to detangle if I was consistent. She was right. Was I training that section? The more often I wear a wash & go, the more defined my pattern. The farthest I am away from a shampoo, the shinier my hair is...etc, etc, etc...
However, I still fear damage from "heat training", so I stay away from straight hair.
ETA: some people do not want to wear puffs, fros or a wash & go. They really aren't concerned with the consistency of the strands. Most of them do not even notice the difference.
My stylist told me I needed to stop neglecting a section of my hair during the detangling process. She indicated it would be easier to detangle if I was consistent. She was right. Was I training that section? The more often I wear a wash & go, the more defined my pattern. The farthest I am away from a shampoo, the shinier my hair is...etc, etc, etc...
However, I still fear damage from "heat training", so I stay away from straight hair.
ETA: some people do not want to wear puffs, fros or a wash & go. They really aren't concerned with the consistency of the strands. Most of them do not even notice the difference.
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JaszyFaye
New Member
That is what I was trying to say in my post, but oh well.
EccentricRed
New Member
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of going natural? LOL! And good grief...a persons hair would NE-VER grow if they got a trim once a month...
LittleLuxe
New Member
It does, oh it does. Thus I'm going to need that $500 soon
Snicker, free love and lala
dancinstallion
Well-Known Member
Those people/stylist(mainly stylists) who think natural hair needs to be trained are the people who have a relaxed mindset! Alot of stylists find it easier to work with straight/relaxed hair. So they would "train" the natural's hair so it would save them time styling it.
Also trained hair doesn't always equal damage. Alot of RELAXED heads train their hair to wrap going one direction. Even if they tried to wrap in the other direction it doesn't work. I think anything done over a long period of time(relaxing,flat ironing, wraping one directions, weaves) all can attribute to damage.
Nayna
Unbothered
I was thinking about this the other day. Like with heat training or heat damage. I don't necessarily think heat training is heat damage. I dunno. If your hair is heat trained yet long and full and healthy how can I or anyone call it damaged? Just like with relaxed hair. Ideally once the chemical is in it's "damaged" but how can that be with so many healthy haired relaxed people? I think damaged hair is hair that is broken off and just all jacked up. I don't think hair is automatically damaged just because it's heat trained or relaxed.
Iluvsmuhgrass
Well-Known Member
As far as I know, "training" natural hair = heat damage. Why does everyone think it's a good idea?
I don't think that everyone does think along those lines but IMHO, I think that it could be because as the hair gets longer, "heat training" it keeps it from drawing up and tying up on itself. I don't really agree with the term heat training because it could get confusing and/or misunderstood. Using heat to temporarily elongate the curl pattern is one thing but blow frying your hair into submission (heat damage) is something totally different. (At least to me.) Some people blow dry because it keeps their hair from knotting up on itself. I can understand that. Right now I'm at a longer twa stage and I have no idea how my hair is going to react when it's shoulder, apl, bsl, etc. I think it will be a process since there will be more hair to deal with ya know? I don't know that I will be doing that but it's a viable option if I begin to lose hair to SSK's.
I personally appreciate the diversity of our hair. It's a beautiful thing. Long, short, curly, kinky/coily, straight.... it's ALL good.
DDTexlaxed
TRANSITION OVER! 11-22-14
There is another site that does not tolerate the use of heat in styling hair. This isn't it and that is why people love it here. The freedom to do strait styles without getting the side eye. I am going to learn how to do heat styling the healthy way when my TWA grows out. I'm hoping it cuts down my single strand knots and gain retention.
silenttullip
Well-Known Member
*throws some conditioner on top of my fro* GROW HAIR GROW
sprays in some moisturizer DRINK HAIR DRINK
Picks up a flat iron and of course heat protectant STAY HAIR STAY
lol I couldn't resist just the word training kinda makes me squint and turn my head to the side
sprays in some moisturizer DRINK HAIR DRINK
Picks up a flat iron and of course heat protectant STAY HAIR STAY
lol I couldn't resist just the word training kinda makes me squint and turn my head to the side
BEAUTYU2U
Well-Known Member
I could be wrong but I think she meant those who "train" their hair, not just the women who straighten their natural hair. Personally, I think there's a difference.
WriteCurl
New Member
to your point, I have to say that one of my current challenges is reaching and surpassing the length I once achieved when I was relaxed. Over the next few months I plan to evaluate whether my hair retains more length from curly styles or stretched styles. Then I can determine what my priority is and style accordingly. Everyone's hair is different. We should just have fun with it and not worry about being labeled by it.
Bint Yusef
New Member
Just because you don't use chemicals to PERM(anently) alter your hair does not mean you are natural. Natural hair is hair in which the original curl pattern has not been permanently altered. The source by which one has changed their original texture is of really no consequence. If you need to cut your hair to get back to your original pattern, heat or chemicals alike, you aren't natural. So imho a discussion on "naturals" who have heat trained their hair imho is moot. Permanently straight hair by fire, permanently straight hair by chemicals...there is no difference.
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brittanynic16
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LOL. People get so silly with this topic. I'm a heat trained "natural." You see my siggie. The begining pictures is from chemicals. The results are from heat training. So that is why I don't "slap a relaxer" on my hair.
My hair has grown longer than ever, shiny and has movement. If that's damage I'll that it.
It you'd like to see what Heat training can do for you check out my airdried hair
http://www.youtube.com/user/Brittanynic16#p/u/7/JGgsLtxcxC4
My hair has grown longer than ever, shiny and has movement. If that's damage I'll that it.
It you'd like to see what Heat training can do for you check out my airdried hair
http://www.youtube.com/user/Brittanynic16#p/u/7/JGgsLtxcxC4
DDTexlaxed
TRANSITION OVER! 11-22-14
Oh, wow. Can you please share your regimen with me? I truly want to do the same with my hair!
fletches
New Member
If you're heat training your hair, you aren't natural. Straightening your hair once in a while is just a styling choice, but the hair is able to revert back to its natural state.
If your "training" your hair to do something it does not/will not do on it's own, then that's not natural
Natural meaning existing in or produced by nature.
I can see the benefit of straigtening hair, but let's not delude ourselves.
If your "training" your hair to do something it does not/will not do on it's own, then that's not natural
Natural meaning existing in or produced by nature. I can see the benefit of straigtening hair, but let's not delude ourselves.
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Nasdaq_Diva
Well-Known Member
Yes, you were totally right. If wish people would read a little more closely instead of jumping (so high) with conclusions.I could be wrong but I think she meant those who "train" their hair, not just the women who straighten their natural hair. Personally, I think there's a difference.
Thank you
LadyRaider
Well-Known Member
I am new at this, but I went natural because I didn't want to be running to the salon for relaxers anymore. I used to think I "needed" relaxers and that made me a slave to it.
I don't know what kind of natural I'll be. I have a job interview next Tuesday and for job interviews I straighten because I know how to work with those styles (been doing it for my whole life.)
So I guess I'm not trying to meet anyone's idea of what it means to be natural. I'm just going to do what I do.
I don't know what kind of natural I'll be. I have a job interview next Tuesday and for job interviews I straighten because I know how to work with those styles (been doing it for my whole life.)
So I guess I'm not trying to meet anyone's idea of what it means to be natural. I'm just going to do what I do.
Qurlyqt
Active Member
My hair is not a dog, so I personally am not interested in "training" it to do anything. I prefer my natural hair in its natural state, which is why it's curly 98% of the time. I also love the versatility of natural hair so when I want it straightened, I straighten it. Throughout my hair journey, I've learned that people can do whatever they want to do with their hair and I do the same. I turn up the corner of my lip to people who try to tell other people what to do with their own hair.
Austro-Afrikana
Well-Known Member
Most people on the hairboards that heat train, do so to cut down on SSK's. Not everyone is ashamed of their natural texture. Sure, some people are and this hairdresser seems like she has something against thick, kinky hair but it isn't fair to group everyone together.
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