YvetteWithJoy
On break
I made it a month, and it helped. I started back last week, and my stress levels are already up.
I'm going to have to do a news and social media fast for awhile, I think.
Starbucks Discrimination
- Thread starter FemmeCreole
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I made it a month, and it helped. I started back last week, and my stress levels are already up.
I'm going to have to do a news and social media fast for awhile, I think.
FemmeCreole
Island Gyal
Starbucks the owner, has responsibility in this incident even if that location is franchised. A franchisee has to act within the bounds of the franchisor. The location manager and staff obviously felt empowered to discriminate against those 2 men. Other customers in the location during the arrest voiced their opinions, some even stating that they had been sitting there for hours without buying and no one said a word to them. Starbucks has already apologized, which further recognizes their responsibility.
IslandMummy
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This happened near my old apartment. Sue everybody.
GeorginaSparks
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Their yelp page is in shambles
https://www.yelp.com/biz/starbucks-philadelphia-18?uid=-knxg3ZwObc77tEKnNdL7Q&utm_source=ishare
https://www.yelp.com/biz/starbucks-philadelphia-18?uid=-knxg3ZwObc77tEKnNdL7Q&utm_source=ishare
I saw it earlier. I mean slaughtered.
I love seeing white people go against other white people. The guy they were supposed to meet was really incredulous. And then the WW in the back. I'm glad they're seeing what we deal with all the time.
Stuff like this I'm forced to show my boys, that yet again, the world is against you and sees you as a threat. It's so sad that everyday we have to say "let me show you this. I'm just over it. Over it.
Menina Preta
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I think the police arrested them bc the police asked them three times to leave and they refused. Once police asks you to leave in this instance, it’s time to go, IMO.
I think people should boycott this location but I’m not boycotting Starbucks. In my neighborhood, they’re very welcoming to any and all who want to perch in there and pass the day away.
I guess my problem is why did they ask them to leave??? If people sit at Starbucks all day using WiFi without buying anything, are all of them trespassing too? I really don't get the logic behind even reasoning their arrest
Menina Preta
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The employee said they were trespassing. The employee is the one to blame and should be fired. I agree the police should’ve just let it go but I think it was their defiance in leaving when asked to leave that led to the arrest. Anyways, I’m so tired of these stories and being asked to boycott everything. Like damn, can I enjoy my caramel macchiato and cheap H&M throwaway clothes? I’m being facetious, but seriously being black is so tiring when we have to see our folks being treated like trash just for waiting for a friend in a coffee shop.
The employee and the police are at fault. Everyone just sits at Starbucks. It's very tiring. And no We can't boycott everything. But It's hard for me as a mother to let a very tall, very manly looking 16 yo out in this shitty world. Maybe others can say oh well, I don't have the luxury. I just can't look away and accept it because it's a constant dialogue of explaining why. I mean... I've been to SB for hours and never bought a thing. It's just ridiculous that anyone including this company will say it's a policy. I'm seriously tired.
I will be boycotting Starbucks. Doesn't matter the location, apparently any location then could blithely call in a policy when they want to apply to clientele they simply don't want there.
spacetygrss
Well-Known Member
This. Exactly this.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
I hear you, Menina Preta.
We can't boycott everything.
In my opinion, people shouldn't feel guilty at all or guilt others about continuing to purchase from Starbucks.
I have to participate this time and personally boycott, though, because of the nature of this incident. We have two boys. They are more important than my hot chocolate from Starbucks. I am ASTONISHED at this situation, and a message has to be sent especially over this type of treatment in this era.
However, I have skipped other boycotts that others have done that were important. I don't think we should judge or guilt each other. We have enough to deal with.
IslandMummy
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People live at Starbucks, from 8-3 folks will sit up there all day on the computer hogging plugs. But two black guys in CENTER CITY are suspicious? Not buying it. Temple’s downtown campus, Penn, Drexel, TJU and not to mention the hospitals have a plethora of black people traversing Center City on the daily. All sorts of black people, this manager’s racism is clear as day.
Kiowa
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So a while back I ordered a beverage...started drinking it on my way back to the car...didn't even make it many stoplights before I began vomiting and hurling all over the place....I contacted the manager, she accused me of want free SB gift cards
(why folks always think we want things for free?), and I told her I serious concerns over the way, I'd seen staff clean and wipe down machines in that facility...I filed a complaint at the local health dept,. a few of my co-workers also said they gotten sick from that location,..they lost a whole lot of biz from our work, once you get poisoned somewhere you'll never go back....but thankfully a Panera opened across from them some weeks after
ThirdEyeBeauty
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Isn't that what Starbucks is known for -- a neutral area for meetups? They have been a place for business to sign documents and the starting place for first dates.
I stopped going to Starbucks years ago but almost chose it for a first business meeting spot but there are too many places to choose from than a crowded Starbucks.
I stopped going to Starbucks years ago but almost chose it for a first business meeting spot but there are too many places to choose from than a crowded Starbucks.
Southernbella.
Well-Known Member
No more Starbucks for me. I rarely go their anyway but no more.
I'm just so tired at this point.
I'm just so tired at this point.
Southernbella.
Well-Known Member
I feel you. They go from little boy to grown man almost overnight, let America tell it.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Ditto.
Kiowa
Well-Known Member
@IslandMummy ...It starts at the top..Diversity is something they speak about,but do not follow internally...I think I posted in LHCF before about my experiences with interviewing for SB for an IT executive position ..they flew me out to their headquarters in Seattle..I did a whole day of panel interview with Chief this that and the other..the whole time I was there, the only people that I saw that looked like myself, were working in the cafeteria...the CEO need to come out and fire this manager NOW..publicly.. I am sure this ain't the first time happened, but having cell phones to capture these going down is exposing them..we need to hit them where it hurt...in the Benjamin's..
ThirdEyeBeauty
Well-Known Member
If you are okay with everything staying the same then disregard what is said here. The power of money has made the most and fastest change when it comes to discrimination.
I agree the caller at this location started the mess and should be punished. I bet the "average" WP told to leave would somehow have the cops talk with the caller for some negotiations. The police would try to play law and say there were no laws broken and they are free to stay if they want.
Time for a change. Time to train wp or any person who likes to criminalize black people for doing what other people do without ill-treatment.
Live.Laugh.Love
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I just realized......
The white guy in the vest that was speaking up was the person the young black men were waiting for and meeting up with. That’s why he was so loud and speaking up on their behalf. What a mess.
I’m waiting on the Starbucks manager to be fired....
The white guy in the vest that was speaking up was the person the young black men were waiting for and meeting up with. That’s why he was so loud and speaking up on their behalf. What a mess.
I’m waiting on the Starbucks manager to be fired....
LeftRightRepeat
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I read a statement by the chief? of police where he said that the police gave these men respect but didn't get that back from them.
I only watched the short version of the video but i didnt see the disrespect that the chief is speaking of. They refused to leave because they believed that they were being racially profiled but there was no cursing, or fighting in the short clip that i viewed
I only watched the short version of the video but i didnt see the disrespect that the chief is speaking of. They refused to leave because they believed that they were being racially profiled but there was no cursing, or fighting in the short clip that i viewed
FelaShrine
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Doesnt matter. Unless they state that 1. employee was fired, No pay. PUBLIC APOLOGY TO THE BOYS WITH COMPENSATION then they are trash.
Overpriced coffeee doesnt need defending.
IslandMummy
Well-Known Member
Bingo. I’ll make my own coffee before they see another dollar from me.
FelaShrine
Well-Known Member
Thank you.
They were being defiant in being asked to leave. LOL. Are we saying it's normal to come up to people at a table and being asked to leave for no reason? You'd be ok with that? Not sure why yall pretending? Yall mouth off in elaborate stories about how if so and so told you to do this and that you'd wait there til the police come and explain why this is happening in the name of being big and bad yet now people pretending like they dont understand the boys' reactions to being asked to leave? Seriously?
ThirdEyeBeauty
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I agree 100%. I wouldn't say it is persuading others to guilt them into doing something. Just as you said that because the OP posted this information it was a trigger for you to make a change in your pocketbook. I would say that is incredible. I would not want to persuade you to continue to spend your money at that establishment if someone gave you information that affected you enough to want to avoid the place all together. That is what I want the ladies here to continue to do.
@Menina Preta we have to choose our battles. If Starbucks was a convenience for you then do not feel bad for continuing. There are plenty of places or things suggested to boycott by ladies here but out of convenience may not be a good idea for an individual. Some things are just affiliated with other places or things that would make it nearly impossible to boycott but if the ladies here want to boycott, let them. I am here for persuading others to boycott places known for treating others badly but let's not persuade the opposite. Just continue. It will be okay and don't feel bad. I think the message in LCHF giving us this information is for us to make an informed decision. That's all.
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