SoopremeBeing
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Quoted for emphasis.
Starbucks Discrimination
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SoopremeBeing
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Exactly. White people started racism, their job to end it.
Transformer
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They associate ‘going out to eat” as a higher status.....like having a house cleaner. They view it as unnecessary labor.
They don’t consider that i like to have as much contol over the foods I consume as possible.
luckiestdestiny
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It says they are doing a clean up on the 18th of any posts that are only news related. I hope people continue posting so that yelp has to keep some of the posts. As long as people make sure to mention the items there that they purchased before trashing their treatment of black people, I think their reviews will have to stay.
Southernbella.
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Surprise, surprise.
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Lady-RuffDiamond
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Hummph.
She's toast. She might as well slap on a pair of gasoline soaked thongs too.
Mind you, it wouldn't make much of a difference.
Starbucks have been off my menu due to their reluctance to pay corporate tax in the UK. Other chains and indies have to pay their way. Disgusting....
shortycocoa
Hair Weave Killer
@This part....:
Because she was cooperative and did not appear to present any sort of threat, continuing to unnecessarily question or delay her could have lead to an unwarranted detention, the department said in a statement.
Officers “look to strike the balance between investigative police work and maintaining the civil liberties of those that they contact. Based on our officers’ interaction with Aghdam, including the fact that she had answered all of our questions cooperatively and thoroughly, there was no legal reason for us to remain on scene questioning her,” the statement said.
They can't be serious....ugh.
ilong
God's Own
@This part....:
Because she was cooperative and did not appear to present any sort of threat, continuing to unnecessarily question or delay her could have lead to an unwarranted detention, the department said in a statement.
Officers “look to strike the balance between investigative police work and maintaining the civil liberties of those that they contact. Based on our officers’ interaction with Aghdam, including the fact that she had answered all of our questions cooperatively and thoroughly, there was no legal reason for us to remain on scene questioning her,” the statement said.
They can't be serious....ugh.
Yes, unbelievable!!!
nyeredzi
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So, my husband and I met at a black-owned coffee shop in Chicago. Lovely spot. I miss it since we don’t live in Chicago anymore. He had a general policy that you had to buy something to hang out in there. And rightly so. It is a business, and people just spending time in a place without buying things is bad for business. It also takes away space from actual customers. I can’t count how many times I’ve been to a Starbucks and there was nowhere to sit, likely because some people take a spot for hours. I don’t like it. And since businesses are private property, if a manager asks you to leave, then yes, you are trespassing.
HOWEVER, the point here is not that a store should require someone to buy something to stay, in my opinion. The point is the difference in treatment. Are they throwing out or calling the cops on white customers? If the answer is no, they’ve mistreated us. I rarely go anymore anyway, because I make my own and have discovered Dunkin Donuts. But I do occasionally go, in fact just went last week to one in Barnes and Nobles. They are going on my fishlist for at least a few months. There are enough alternatives fir me, I probably won’t even miss them.
momi
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Right. If I owned a hair salon I wouldn't want people just sitting down at my hooded dryer chairs using my wifi. Having said that - my rule would apply to ALL customers. The problem with this SB appears to be that they singled out these two men.
Furthermore if a business doesn't want my money you will not catch me begging to stay or refusing to leave. I will gather my belongings with a hearty peace out. There are too many alternatives out here. Bye!
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
@Atthatday thanks for the list. I’d already shared the link with close friends.
Was very surprised that Breuklyn Coffee house was BO as I thought it was just hipster
likewise for Serengeti and Tsion. I was surprised to find out that Lenox Coffee Roasters is not BO.
Was very surprised that Breuklyn Coffee house was BO as I thought it was just hipster
likewise for Serengeti and Tsion. I was surprised to find out that Lenox Coffee Roasters is not BO.
Atthatday
Every knee shall bow...
@Atthatday thanks for the list. I’d already shared the link with close friends.
Was very surprised that Breuklyn Coffee house was BO as I thought it was just hipster
Thanks for sharing.
There are alternatives, though I wish more black-owned franchises existed.
UmSumayyah
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I don't know of any restaurant that has the quality of ingredients that we regularly use at home. There are some places that have grass-fed steaks or pasteured chicken/eggs, but go out to eat with 90% organic/pastured ingredients and low-inflammatory oils, seasoned exactly to our tastes? Not a one.
I enjoy going out but I am 100% agreement with you that cooking fresh at home is better.
Are these "eating out is higher status" acquaintances of yours even eating at the farm-to-table spots or are they puffing up about Applebees and Olive Garden?
Menina Preta
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I’m head strong as all out, but when police come by and are involved, I rather move along than go back and forth with them
because they have shown time and time again that they can maim, assault and kill people of color with no repercussions. Proving a point in Starbucks is not worth my life, period.
Anyways, I drink Starbucks maybe 4-5 times per month. I won’t be boycotting bc I’m tired of boycotting everytime a racist service employee does something offensive to a Black person. It’s tiring and feels like a black tax. These employees are just one person in a multi million corporation. If the company didn’t issue an apology, then fine I would boycott, but they did and are taking action.
Atthatday
Every knee shall bow...
I hope the charges are dropped and expunged.
Stormy
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Me too
FelaShrine
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I dont believe you. Sorry girl. I dont believe police would come up at you asking you to leave without a decent reason and you wouldnt demand to know why.
Keep in mind they called cops first. They didnt even ask the guys anything, everything came out after the arrest. So you claiming you'd be all "sure! I'll leave. bye
". Nah.what's the action? They also didnt even have the decency to call the guys by their names.
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Menina Preta
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I dont believe you. Sorry girl. I dont believe police would come up at you asking you to leave without a decent reason and you wouldnt demand to know why.
Keep in mind they called cops first. They didnt even ask the guys anything, everything came out after the arrest. So you claiming you'd be all "sure! I'll leave. bye
Of course, I would ask why. After they tell me why and ask me two to three times to leave, then I would go. I would of course write down everyone’s name and then escalate the situation in court after I left with my face and life in one piece. Life is too important to be beaten up or arrested over Starbucks.
Anyways, i think people should do what feels right for them. If people want to protest Starbucks, then protest them, boycott them, etc. I am just tired of every 4-8 weeks there being some new social media cause complete with a video, tweets, blog posts, etc. People get so worked up and then 2-4 weeks later, crickets. It just seems disingenuous from afar and in retrospect.
Also, OAN, I think it’s problematic to be questioning how “Black” or “down” someone is by their desire to engage in boycotts or protests. That’s what mensa’s post implied. We all need to practice self care and preservation living in a racist society. Sometimes, I choose to engage full throttle protesting and boycotting. Other times, I let others bare the weight bc I don’t have the bandwidth or may not see eye to eye with the issue. Nothing is wrong with that at all. We are not a monolith.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
No argument: Just thinking.
Don't we sometimes boycott for just a while, to make a point? That doesn't seem disingenuous to me.
And it all is tiring to some degree . . . but I haven't fought the way people who came before me have and gone through what they have for ME . . . so I'm not too tired.
I find racism is more tiring than boycotting.
But I have no argument: I agree that no one has to boycott every time, in my opinion.
Don't we sometimes boycott for just a while, to make a point? That doesn't seem disingenuous to me.
And it all is tiring to some degree . . . but I haven't fought the way people who came before me have and gone through what they have for ME . . . so I'm not too tired.
I find racism is more tiring than boycotting.
But I have no argument: I agree that no one has to boycott every time, in my opinion.
HappilyLiberal
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I don't go to five bucks because I don't like their coffee (I think they roast their beans too long)... but, if I did, I wouldn't go anymore. There are too many good coffee chains here, including one that is run to train poor kids as cooks, to put up with their mess!
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IslandMummy
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That’s the only outcome that I want for this and the old navy nonsense.
During the height of the Civil Rights movement, everyone Black did not participate from the protests, boycots, sit-in's, etc. However, all Black folks and others did receive the Constitutional rights and benefits that should've been extended to us in the first place.
As of now, America, in regards to Black folk i
s "somewhat"Of course, I would ask why. After they tell me why and ask me two to three times to leave, then I would go. I would of course write down everyone’s name and then escalate the situation in court after I left with my face and life in one piece. Life is too important to be beaten up or arrested over Starbucks.
Anyways, i think people should do what feels right for them. If people want to protest Starbucks, then protest them, boycott them, etc. I am just tired of every 4-8 weeks there being some new social media cause complete with a video, tweets, blog posts, etc. People get so worked up and then 2-4 weeks later, crickets. It just seems disingenuous from afar and in retrospect.
Also, OAN, I think it’s problematic to be questioning how “Black” or “down” someone is by their desire to engage in boycotts or protests. That’s what mensa’s post implied. We all need to practice self care and preservation living in a racist society. Sometimes, I choose to engage full throttle protesting and boycotting. Other times, I let others bare the weight bc I don’t have the bandwidth or may not see eye to eye with the issue. Nothing is wrong with that at all. We are not a monolith.[/QUOTE]
If you were singled out from a business and was asked by the police to leave, for no reason, and you left, that was your rightful choice. However, these Black men who were doing nothing wrong but sitting around, as many of Starbucks White customers do, were asked to leave. Their choice to stay was their right to do so.
Once you left, how do you know that you would have been allowed to file a complaint against the officers? Are you absolutely sure that you'd be able file a case against them?
Many of us are weary of the countless social media "videos, tweets, blog posts, etc." But these postings would not be posted or necessary if there were no racists occurrences that were aimed against Black folk time and time again in the first place.
Instead of being tired of seeing these posts, why not get tired about the racist acts that are aimed at Black folk that perpetrate the need for these posts to be generated at an alarming rate?
During the Civil Rights movement, not all Black folk participated in the protests, sit-in's, marches, etc. However, because of the Black folk who did lead and engage in these powerful protest, all Black folk along with others, received many rights that were to be granted to us based on the Constitution of the United States.
If Black folk choose to participate in a protest it is their choice. Our Blackness is not based on certain modes of protests. However, in my humble opinion, we must and should uplift and support our Race in any way that we can, especially during these trying times!
Finally, you are correct in stating that "we are not a monolith." Unfortunately, White racists would disagree with you. When they look at us, they view us all as one whether we are light, dark, rich, poor, educated, illiterate, religious, non-religious, etc...I think you get my point.
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HappilyLiberal
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BTW... Five Bucks fired the manager...
naturalgyrl5199
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Mine too. They are so sweet....they know my drink and everything But I'm STILL GOING TO BOYCOTT STARBUCKS to get the dent in profits....... I have a hard hard Starbucks habit. The local coffee shop screwed me all the way over and I left them for good and ended up at Sbx for that reason. My local Sbux (2 franchises) know me well. Really well. Like my gov't name (very hard to say) and my nick name...they get my drink right and if I call the next day complaining about yesterday's drink, today's drink is free. I have already had 10 free drinks in 2018 alone. My local shop wasn't offering that. They shaded me so bad when I had been going there for 10 days in a row wrapping up some graduate school work/project. I was so hurt because I really believe in "shop local" only to be treated like a wayward stranger. That was 2007. I'd patronized them faithfully since they opened in 2002. Sbux is convenient to me cause I live near the country driving into town to work. Its a straight shot and if the closest one to my home is busy I ride down the road to the one close to work. They are welcoming and staffed by youngins so they are better trained than some of the racist ones I've seen when traveling out of town down here in the south. One became my intern for a little while and "just because" (she arranged free drinks for the staff the week she was here) and had the support of her manager who was supportive of her education...We have nothing else and I cant do Dunkin cause I can't tolerate the almond milk. I do better with Coconut...
So I get it. And look I got a 2 month old and I NEEDS my coffee but Ima figure something out in the short term. But if we can make a dent in the near future to make change, I'ma try my hardest. DH HATES the smell of coffee in the morning but we gone buy some Organic Coconut milk and coconut milk creamer and make that thing work. I may return to Sbux down the line...but they gone learn TODAY and TOMORRA'
That manager should be FIRED. Sbux ADMITTED in the apology that her reasons for calling the po-po were based on their policy but wrong. If you have a policy you need to make sure franchisees are enforcing it equally and all the time....(year right).
eta: TO CLARIFY MY STANCE.
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