Let's discuss this video
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Cassandra1975
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This must have been at the beginning of the special...we forgot and didn't start watching it until about 20 - 25 minutes in.
I like how she mentioned how our hair was unique. Maybe I missed it (I'm at work and I had to watch with the volume on low), but did she touch on the economics of black hair care?
I like how she mentioned how our hair was unique. Maybe I missed it (I'm at work and I had to watch with the volume on low), but did she touch on the economics of black hair care?
shetara20
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Off of that clip I do believe that as Black Women we do like to take great care fo our hair becuase it is ultimately a part of us. The lady was right to say that our hair is like clay because our hair can be manipulated to be styled and done in many different ways. We should be proud of that and of our culture in general. But on the other hand people shouldnt think that our hair should defines us. There is more to us than out hair. Too many thinkgs ot even name. When It came down to it. When women have our hair done and look good we feel good!!!!!
beaux cheveux
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She did mention we spend millions on hair care and that hair is to the black women what weight is to white women. I thought we are the hair boards were obessed but some of the things that woman said made me cringe. I mean is hair really that serious.
LongHairDreams
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That lady brought up some good points...especially about jobs. Many black women are scared about how an employer will percieve us based on our hair STYLE. (that was brougt up not long ago on the board)
Years ago, my best friend got fired because she got braids. The customers loved it, but the employer didn't (I live in a prod white area). I had a white co-worker get braids, and was forced to take them out or they were going to fire her. It wasn't ok for her to get braids, but when I asked about myself, they were fine with it. But if i went blond....that would be a problem.
Hair is important to us. To many, at least. Its an accessory, a part of us that we want to keep looking good.
Years ago, my best friend got fired because she got braids. The customers loved it, but the employer didn't (I live in a prod white area). I had a white co-worker get braids, and was forced to take them out or they were going to fire her. It wasn't ok for her to get braids, but when I asked about myself, they were fine with it. But if i went blond....that would be a problem.
Hair is important to us. To many, at least. Its an accessory, a part of us that we want to keep looking good.
LongHairDreams
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Also, being black, we already stand out. Hair is included in that.
RedVelvet310
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I was thinking the same thing
.... and another question one of the speakers in the video kept talking about how unique black hair was how it does things that no other hair types can do. If thats the case, how come the majority of the women getting their hair done were relaxed heads? And if not relaxed heads, it had to be a dred? Where was the puff? The shingles? The coil-out? And all of a sudden Canadian people don't know what black hair is ? Oh gosh, okay now I'm sounding ignorant, I really don't mean it, what was said was very insightful.
aloof one
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Most black women in America have hair that looks just like hers.
If you are the exception, be glad... but don't front like every black woman is an LHCFer and has hair on point all the time. Most of those girls look like most girls on the street. I'm glad they didn't lie and have errbody on there with natural BSL hair or something.
chebaby
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my thoughts exactly. her hair looked just fine to me. i think she brought up very good points on how hair is viewed by us as well as employers or potential employers. the fact that they started this video by saying hair is to us what weight is to the White woman lets outsiders know that we all have issues and we choose to make ours beautiful. the video was very imformative. i also like the fact that the woman they chose to speak on this subject did so extremely well. it showed that we as AA women may focus on our hair and that may be too much for others to understand but we are educated as well. we are educated as to why we spend so much money and time on our hair and that is a beautiful thing.
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TooCute
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I thought the same thing as far as the majority of Black women in America having hair that looked like her's (bad). And as far as bringing up good points, I think for CNN to have such a huge campaign for this special ( they were at my HBCU several months ago) the reporting is purely superficial.
All CNN has done is listed trounced statistics and hired people well versed in black issues to just make statements on TV many of us have heard before. In my deepest heart I hope this "special" gets better, because so far, not impressed. I don't find this "special" informative and I have a hard time believing that this will serve as more than just a ratings booster for CNN.
LongHairDreams
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This "special" is information WE already know. OTHERS may not know it. Its mainly for the other folks, if their interested in watching it. We already know how it is to be black.
KEWLKAT103
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I did'nt see anything wrong with it. The lady in the video? I have'nt seen the actual show yet. I'll watch when it repeats tonight.
sexyeyes3616
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I enjoyed it.
TooCute
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AND I am beyond aware that its for others. But it was not presented as if was for others.
I had a discussion with "others" ( rather a listen, because I wanted to know what they thought) and they've stated that there is little to be gained from this mess other than random stats. CNN can take their minimally informative "special" and shove it.
And I stand by the fact that her hair was busted.
Note: I sound very aggressive in these posts, but this is how I view this "special"; otherwise, I have a very amicable personality
I had a discussion with "others" ( rather a listen, because I wanted to know what they thought) and they've stated that there is little to be gained from this mess other than random stats. CNN can take their minimally informative "special" and shove it.
And I stand by the fact that her hair was busted.
Note: I sound very aggressive in these posts, but this is how I view this "special"; otherwise, I have a very amicable personality
Mandy4610
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My thoughts exactly...Man, my TWA could have represented better than that
ok just kidding!!, but for real, whats up with that?
aloof one
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My thoughts exactly...Man, my TWA could have represented better than that
Can we have an explanation as to why her hair was so busted?
Because it wasn't long? Her hair was longer than yours. No offense to your TWA or anything, seriously.
Because it wasn't natural? Most black women aren't natural in the US.
Because it wasn't shiny enough? Most black women here don't have shine, but rather sheen, even on relaxed hair.
Her hair looks like typical relaxed hair to me... I just want to know what is so busted about it.
LongHairDreams
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AND I am beyond aware that its for others. But it was not presented as if was for others.
I had a discussion with "others" ( rather a listen, because I wanted to know what they thought) and they've stated that there is little to be gained from this mess other than random stats. CNN can take their minimally informative "special" and shove it.
And I stand by the fact that her hair was busted.
Note: I sound very aggressive in these posts, but this is how I view this "special"; otherwise, I have a very amicable personality
Go on girl !!
Kelly210
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I would like to know too.
TooCute
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Just because EVERYONE's hair looks like her's doesn't make it any less busted.
What do you want me to say, her hair looks fine because that's how the majority of us look. Um...no. Her hair was busted, like the majority. For her to be talking about uniqueness and versatility, there sure wasn't any going on in the clips that were shown. Majority was relaxed and damaged so she should have been talking about that.
Kelly210
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I honestly see nothing wrong with her hair. She didn't have that "swang," but I didn't see damanged. Her hair didn't look stringy, dry or thin and extremely flat to me. I mainly see bad weaves on a day to day basis when it comes to black women. Hair two different colors and not blended well.
aloof one
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'Just because EVERYONE's hair looks like her's doesn't make it any less busted.
She was talking about everyone. Not really getting why all the sarcasm was necessary.
Her hair is common. Should we have had LHCFers, the minority representing the whole group? If most black people aren't a certain way, should we only show an exception? Would that be very truthful? If you think most black women are busted, does that mean we should pretend they are not? Only focus on the few black women who (in your opinion) aren't busted for a program based on most/all of us?
ETA: Do you think it would impress non black people more if the girls were all looking like a lot people on this site's siggies? Make them think that all black women look like that? Because we don't, and I'm sure if anyone saw that they would remember that IRL its not that way real quick.. I think it was an accurate representation of what we look like, regardless of what the commentator spoke about. Most black women here have dull relaxed hair that is about SL or shorter. A large majority wear some kind of hair extensions or weaves or wigs, etc. Some are natural.
She is not going to spend the whole time, or even half talking about natural hair, or even long relaxed hair.. guess why? Because only a minority of black women are natural and have fros or locs, and only a minority have their real relaxed hair past their shoulders and looking "better". As much as we want to think otherwise, it is rare, and portion of time allotted to discussing it showed that.
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Pheonixx
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^^^
Thank you.
I watched Black Woman and Family and the Black Man and...I have mixed feelings about these segments. I think it's good to share our story with the masses, BUT---
ffrant:There's a part of me that believes:
1.
Segments like this only tend to reinforce the Black America Monolith Myth.
This country already thinks that we share a massive brain. How does this help?
....and no--I won't give Americans more credit than that. Lord knows I like this country well-enough. I've been in the military 8 yrs so there is no question as to where my loyalties lie.
But most Americans are stupid. Stupid as hell. They can't think for themselves. They believe whatever the media tells them.
I've met plenty who are afraid to elect Obama because they think he's Muslim. As if ALL muslims are terrorists. SMH What do they think, he's going to blow up the White House?
This is a country that joined together after 9/11 and harassed/assaulted individuals who looked like they were of muslim and arabic descent.
This is a country where cops pull over hispanics to ensure that they're not illegal aliens. As if illegal immigration has a 'face'. If this country were sooo worried about the illegal immigration problem they'd build a fence around the whole country as opposed to just the southern border.
This is a country where cops still profile blacks and hispanics--and 'muslim looking' people--and frankly I find that interesting.
The fact that minorities are always profiled, I mean.
As if to suggest that WE are the only ones who commit crimes...?
Yet little white kids can shoot up schools and shopping centers and it's what--kids being kids?
2.
This batch of segments...I mean WE know these things. So who is this story being directed towards? And...why? It's not like this country is going to fix the problems it helped to create. What do we expect the rest of the country to do? So I just don't see the use in it. I wish ppl would just leave 'us' alone, hell.
I'm sorry if others disagree...
3.
I can't see this as being used as anything other than fodder for racists and ignorant 'other's to further demoralize and categorize black people--and there are many in this country. It seems as if ppl will only remember the negative statistics... That's about the only thing that I remember seeing pop across the screen.
"70% of black children are without daddies"
NO......that's 70%, yes
70%
"YES, America---S-E-V-E-N-T-Y P-E-R-C-E-N-T...
(and the little black kids can't read either)
NO......that's 70%, yes
70%
"YES, America---S-E-V-E-N-T-Y P-E-R-C-E-N-T...
(and the little black kids can't read either)
>>sigh<<
WOO-SAAHHHHH!!!!!
I'm sorry I'm just so tired of this darn media and their 'fair and balanced' reporting. I've just had it--I'm moving to france!
God--it's just like Fox NEWS and their 'Angry Black Women' segment. Did anyone catch that?
Oh wait--and that dim-witted blonde hag who was standing in for Oreilly.
It turns out that someway, somehow the republican media linked something as simple as the Obama's 'Fist Bump' (which is really 'giving dap' or 'giving pound'.People have been doing it for years!) to the terrorist extremists and were calling it 'Terrorist Fist Jab'.
They even brought in a body language expert...to analyze Michelle O and Obama go through the motions of 'The Jab'.
>>>sigh<<<
This is why I don't watch Fox too much because they just make my nerves bad--especially that dern "Hannity"!
I could just pop him all 'cross his fo'head!!
He better be glad he doesn't take phone calls...
Again. I apologize again for being so negative--I feel a little critical of certain things especially when they pertain to ethnicity....
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TooCute
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: I said her hair was common.
Focus on what you (CNN) are talking about. She (busted hair woman) says black hair is unique and versatile yet all that was shown is that our hair can be relaxed and wrapped.
All that is highlighted red are statements you pulled out of the sky and I do not agree.
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aloof one
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I stated it again, because I agreed with that statement. Hence me asking why the hell you decided to go and get all sarcastic. Since you think her hair is so busted, I would like you to make sure you remind half the women on this board who have hair just like it (knowing you wont) that theirs is busted as well. Nothing was pulled out of the sky.
They showed more than just wrapping and relaxing. Just because that is all you saw doesn't mean it was all that was conveyed to you.
Anyway, you clearly missed the point, and I'm done. Good night.
No point editing the statement, I read it perfectly well.
Pheonixx
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I agree.
Didnt' see her looking exactly busted.
The hair I saw depicted the hair that I normally see.
>>>shrugs<<<
TooCute
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^^^
Thank you.
I watched Black Woman and Family and the Black Man and...I have mixed feelings about these segments. I think it's good to share our story with the masses.
BUT---
A part of me that believes:
1.
Segments like this only tend to reinforce the Black America Monolith Myth.
This country already thinks that we share a massive brain. How does this help?
....and no--I won't give Americans more credit than that. Lord knows I like this country well-enough. I've been in the military 8 yrs so there is no question as to where my loyalties lie.
But most Americans are stupid. Stupid as hell. They can't think for themselves. They believe whatever the media tells them.
I've met plenty who are afraid to elect Obama because they think he's Muslim. As if ALL muslims are terrorists. SMH What do they think, he's going to blow up the White House?
This is a country that joined together after 9/11 and harassed/assaulted individuals who looked like they were of muslim and arabic descent.
This is a country where cops pull over hispanics to ensure that they're not illegal aliens. As if illegal immigration has a 'face'. If this country were sooo worried about the illegal immigration they'd build a fence around the whole country as opposed to just the southern border.
This is a country where cops still profile blacks and hispanics--and 'muslim looking' people--and frankly I find that interesting.
The fact that minorities are always profiled, I mean.
As if to suggest that WE are the only ones who commit crimes...?
Yet little white kids can shoot up schools and shopping centers and it's what--kids being kids?
2.
This batch of segments...I mean WE know these things. So who is this story being directed towards? And...why? It's not like this country is going to fix the problems it helped to create. What do expect the rest of the country to do? So I just don't see the use in it. I wish ppl would leave just 'us' alone, hell.
I'm sorry if others disagree...
3.
I can't see this as being used as anything other than fodder for racists and ignorant 'other's to further demoralize and categorize black people--and there are many in this country. It seems as if ppl will only remember the negative statistics... That's about the only thing that I remember seeing pop across the screen.
"70% of black children are without daddies"
NO......that's 70%, yes
70%
"YES, America---S-E-V-E-N-T-Y P-E-R-C-E-N-T...
(and the little black kids can't read either)
>>sigh<<
WOO-SAAHHHHH!!!!!
I'm sorry I'm just so tired of this darn media and their 'fair and balanced' reporting. I've just had it--I'm moving to france!
God--it's just like Fox NEWS and their Angry Black Women segment. Did anyone catch that?
Oh wait--and that dim-witted blonde hag who was standing in for Oreilly.
It turns out that someway, somehow the republican media linked something as simple as the Obama's fist bump (which is really 'giving dap' or 'giving pound'. People have been doing it for years!) to the terrorists and were calling it 'Terrorist Fist Jab'.
They even brought in a body language expert...to analyze Michele O and Obama go through the motions of the Jab.
>>>sigh<<<
This is why I don't watch Fox too much because they just make my nerves bad--especially that dern "Hannity".
Yes.
thewave:
TooCute
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