A New Henna Thread

BranwenRosewood

BranwenRosewood

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MileHighDiva

The last time I used henna I added mixed my dc with Komaza Protein Strengthener (about 50/50) and my hair was fine afterwards. I had been dealing with slightly over-moisturized hair and the henna plus protein finally fixed it.
 
DarkJoy

DarkJoy

Bent. Not Broken.
Now I can see why some people who mix their henna with coconut milk complain they had helmet hair afterwards :ohwell: I think the two may be a bad combination for some people.

I've been using it between once a week to once a month for a year and half just mixing with water. Thing is, I didnt mix the coconut milk in the paste. I put it in with my DC afterwards because my hair was kind of mushy and the reconstructor (SM Antibreakage Masque) wasnt hard enough. Shooot... I started putting that coconut milk in and my hair started to matt within 5 mins.

AO Rosa Mosqueta was a quick safe and my hair is fine, in great shape and not breaking.

So, lesson--if you never tried coconut milk with your henna, try it on shed hair or just a section first.
 
EnExitStageLeft

EnExitStageLeft

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I really need to henna. But...I'm also do for a clarify and blow dry, so it looks like I won't be hennaing till may because I plan to shampoo and straighten for my birthday at the end of this month.
 
lavaflow99

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
2 step henna and indigo yesterday and it turned out great! Hair feels strong and the grey is gone. I used green tea in the henna mixture for the first time in years (usually use AVJ but forgot to buy) and worked well with no issues.
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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I am leaning toward a henna gloss today. I am not going to apply the henna to my nape or crown. It always gets itchy there and I don't want any issues.

I am paranoid about my curls. They are finally the size I like. I don't want them to change. I have never had issues before, ever and used to henna weekly. But my hair is heavier now or something.

I usually use medium protein right after I henna but I just used protein on Friday. I guess I will wait then.

My mix was going to be henna and warm water for dye release and then I was going to mix in marshmallow balm and some intense moisture cream for the gloss part.

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BranwenRosewood

BranwenRosewood

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MileHighDiva said:
@BranwenRosewood @kxlot79

I need help! I almost bought a food scale that was on clearance at Sam's Club then I started thinking :scratchch. Why should I do that? There's plenty of mixtresses on LHCF and two of them that I can think of use henna.

I think it's mandatory for a formulator and/or mixtress to have a food scale. :grin: I hope that I'm correct! :yep:

I want to know how many grams of henna will go in a dry 8 oz cup. I think the 3.5 oz box of henna will not fit in an dry cup. Maybe, if the cup is packed like brown sugar, but I don't think so. Even though the dry cup is 8 oz. I hope my question makes sense! If not, please let me know.

For example, If I purchased a 500 gram bag of henna and dipped a dry measuring cup in the bag. How many grams of henna would that be?
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MileHighDiva

I just opened a 100g pack of Red Raj and the entire thing fit into a dry 1 cup size measuring cup. It was slightly packed and slightly rounded.
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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BranwenRosewood said:
MileHighDiva

I just opened a 100g pack of Red Raj and the entire thing fit into a dry 1 cup size measuring cup. It was slightly packed and slightly rounded.
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I have forgotten. How long is the dye release fir red raj? I have jamila, Rajasthani something from mehandi.com and red raj. I want to henna in a few hours.

Which one should I pick?

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BranwenRosewood

BranwenRosewood

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HanaKuroi

I always let my henna sit overnight before I apply it but the Red Raj dye released very fast. I used 25g of Red Raj, 25g of Rajasthani and 25g of Hesh Henna. When I rinsed off the henna that got on my hand while mixing the water ran orange. I googled it and it seems the average time for Red Raj is less than 3 hours.
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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BranwenRosewood said:
HanaKuroi

I always let my henna sit overnight before I apply it but the Red Raj dye released very fast. I used 25g of Red Raj, 25g of Rajasthani and 25g of Hesh Henna. When I rinsed off the henna that got on my hand while mixing the water ran orange. I googled it and it seems the average time for Red Raj is less than 3 hours.
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Red Raj it is.

I think I ask this question every single time I get ready to henna.

I am too lazy to google. And that is a shame. I must be really, really lazy. :) Thanks!

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HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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I did a henna gloss. I think I will stick with these for a while. It was easy to rinse and my grays were still covered.

I mixed the red raj with warm distilled water. After 4 hours I mixed in I2D4 intense moisture cream, their marshmallow balm, honey and grapeseed oil.

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onelockatatime

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Any advice for a relaxed head who can't tolerate too much protein. In the past I used henna/indigo for almost a year. However, I think it caused gradual breakage. My theory: it coated my hair and prevented moisture from getting into my already dry hair, which caused breakage. Nonetheless, I loved the immediate results i.e. color, fullness. So I would like to start using it again. Any suggestions? By the way, I did my normal weekly moisturizing condish.
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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onelockatatime said:
Any advice for a relaxed head who can't tolerate too much protein. In the past I used henna/indigo for almost a year. However, I think it caused gradual breakage. My theory: it coated my hair and prevented moisture from getting into my already dry hair, which caused breakage. Nonetheless, I loved the immediate results i.e. color, fullness. So I would like to start using it again. Any suggestions? By the way, I did my normal weekly moisturizing condish.
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I don't think it was the henna. The whole henna being or mimicking a protein is I believe greatly misunderstood due to misinformation.

I believe most problems with henna is using inferior quality henna or henna compounds. You must use a deep conditioner that is moisturizing. When they say henna coats the hair they mean it bonds to the hair. It doesn't act like shellac or a waterproofer and seal our hair keeping out moisture. (I'll come back later and explain how henna works, I'll have to locate old replies)

Indigo can be drying, but again using a deep conditioner made for dc'ing should take care of dryness.

Sometimes dry hair can be a result of build up from products, hard water. Clarifying and/or chelating your hair monthly is very important. After a while build up will prevent moisture from getting into your strands.

Using bad henna will give you bad results. I use BAQ (body art quality) henna from a reputable vendor. Some of these "other" henna can contain dyes, fillers, rocks and dirt.

They can also have high levels of pesticides. The two companies I purchase from test for pesticide levels.


What deep conditioner did you use? Are you a regular moisturizer and sealer?

Do you use heat regularly?

Do you use protein? The proper moisture/protein balance is key to solving dry hair issues as well.

I am thread jacking. :)

We have two threads that look can help you with your dry hair issues. Struggling with your natural hair and Nailing your regimen. Address your dry hair issues before starting henna/indigo. Check out those threads and post your concerns. Those ladies are very good.

Good-luck!

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
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MileHighDiva

MileHighDiva

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HanaKuroi said:
I don't think it was the henna. The whole henna being or mimicking a protein is I believe greatly misunderstood due to misinformation.

I believe most problems with henna is using inferior quality henna or henna compounds. You must use a deep conditioner that is moisturizing. When they say henna coats the hair they mean it bonds to the hair. It doesn't act like shellac or a waterproofer and seal our hair keeping out moisture. (I'll come back later and explain how henna works, I'll have to locate old replies)

Indigo can be drying, but again using a deep conditioner made for dc'ing should take care of dryness.

Sometimes dry hair can be a result of build up from products, hard water. Clarifying and/or chelating your hair monthly is very important. After a while build up will prevent moisture from getting into your strands.

Using bad henna will give you bad results. I use BAQ (body art quality) henna from a reputable vendor. Some of these "other" henna can contain dyes, fillers, rocks and dirt.

They can also have high levels of pesticides. The two companies I purchase from test for pesticide levels.


What deep conditioner did you use? Are you a regular moisturizer and sealer?

Do you use heat regularly?

Do you use protein? The proper moisture/protein balance is key to solving dry hair issues as well.

I am thread jacking. :)

We have two threads that look can help you with your dry hair issues. Struggling with your natural hair and Nailing your regimen. Address your dry hair issues before starting henna/indigo. Check out those threads and post your concerns. Those ladies are very good.

Good-luck!

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
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HanaKuroi

Did you ever find the old replies? Some of us need better clarification of how it adheres to the hair! Is it false that it will build up a coat on the strand making the strand thicker? That hair analysis lady told me that henna will not make my hair thicker, so now I'm confused. Please advise!
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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MileHighDiva said:
HanaKuroi

Did you ever find the old replies? Some of us need better clarification of how it adheres to the hair! Is it false that it will build up a coat on the strand making the strand thicker? That hair analysis lady told me that henna will not make my hair thicker, so now I'm confused. Please advise!
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I posted it on a different site. I can't pull up my old replies now that they have changed their website and eliminated the app. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way.

It will take me a while.

I am confused about what the analysis lady said too.

I'll start combing through my old replies from 2012. I think that was the year. I'll update this week.

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HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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Unless she has samples of your hair before and after several applications of henna, I don't understand how she came to that conclusion.

I have always read the opposite.

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MileHighDiva

MileHighDiva

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HanaKuroi said:
Unless she has samples of your hair before and after several applications of henna, I don't understand how she came to that conclusion.

I have always read the opposite.

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I gave her a random sample from all over my head that I had collected in January. That sample had four henna applications on it. The sample I submitted from March had five henna applications on it. She said the only difference was the intensity of the color.

That's why I want EnExitStageLeft to do the analysis. She would be a good control. She has pre henna hair saved up and she recently started doing henndigo gloss treatments.

HanaKuroi

Per Wendy:

"The more and less hennaed hair appear to be similar in width. Henna lays down a very, very thin layer of residue (I know that's not the best word for it). It would need to be a much thicker layer to bump your hair from fine to medium. But it may make it feel thicker."
 
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EnExitStageLeft

EnExitStageLeft

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2 so far, but I'm like 2 1/2 weeks overdo for my 3rd. I may do 4 before purchasing the analyst. Maybe I'm mysteriously have thick strands smh....I'm sure I won't, but a girl can dream lol
 
MileHighDiva

MileHighDiva

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I love the way coconut milk in my mix makes my hair feel compared to using tea for release.

However, I think the fat from the coconut milk is not rinsing all the way out. I have a lot of lil white fat looking balls. I'll use up the rest of the mix in the freezer that has coconut milk in it, but it seems once it's used up, it'll be back to the drawing board.
 
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mshoneyfly

mshoneyfly

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MileHighDiva
I recommend coconut water instead. I forgot to use it for my last henna and I had braids for quite a while before that but I really enjoyed the mix with coconut water. Very moisturizing :yep:

I LOVE this HHJ!!
 
HanaKuroi

HanaKuroi

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MileHighDiva said:
I love the way coconut milk in my mix makes my hair feel compared to using tea for release.

However, I think the fat from the coconut milk is not rinsing all the way out. I have a lot of lil white fat looking balls. I'll use up the rest of the mix in the freezer that has coconut milk in it, but it seems once it's used up, it'll be back to the drawing board.
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What brand coconut milk did you use? Was it the one with the preservative and stabilizer?

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MileHighDiva

MileHighDiva

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HanaKuroi said:
What brand coconut milk did you use? Was it the one with the preservative and stabilizer?

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IIRC, Thai something or another, the label was a cherry red color. I bought it from Sprouts Market.
 
nemi95

nemi95

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I henna'd 2 weeks ago with a BAQ henna I got from my local Indian store. I'm starting to develop grays around my hairline that I don't want red, so I went back to the store and I found 100% indigo. The box says to do a henna/indigo 2 step but I don't want to. So I mixed Indigo with ACV, hot water and olive oil. I will let it sit for 3 hours then apply. I will marinate in that for 2 hrs with heat. The kicker is I also want to BKT today! Can I do that safely? I typically use Softliss BKT, but I also have the Organix wash out BKT, and Global. Suggestions?
 
crimsonpeach

crimsonpeach

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I hennaed last week using Henna for African hair from Mehandi.

I used lemon juice and water infused with hisbiscus. Totally forgot the oil but my hair was fine. I really need to get back on a monthly schedule.
 
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