George Floyd Dies After Saying He Can't Breathe After Arrest...video Shows Cop With Knee On His Neck

Kanky

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It's really tough having any association to a law enforcement officer right now and he isn't even a civilian officer. Ive moved from worrying myself about Covid to being seriously afraid to be here alone right now which I am most of the time.
Now, I dont live anywhere near where they are protesting in my state but someone dumped a bunch of little pigs in my yard. My SO doesnt even live here but he comes over a lot.

Like actual pigs or paper pig pictures? I’m trying to figure out how concerned you should be.
 

Jmartjrmd

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Can someone tell me
why the EMS personnel
did not try to do CPR or whatever
to revive George Floyd at the scene?
They just put him on a stretcher
without making any effort to save him.

Add to that the callous look on the cop's face
as he snuffed the life out of him.
Makes me think they meant for him to die

The claim that "that is what drugs do",
uttered by that jerk Thao
makes me wonder...

If the toxicology report shows drugs,
how do we know the cops sitting on him
did not inject him with something?
Chauvin's look may have been
him waiting for something
the others were doing
to take effect.

Why was Thao determined
to keep people from getting close?

The suggestion that some underlying
condition caused his death
makes me more suspicious
of this whole thing.

Covid-19 is killing us
We refused to mingle when
lockdowns were lifted
letting "others" do it.
Then this happens to bring us out in throngs.

Something very strange is going on....

ION, WTH was that stunt with the bible about?
They did a scoop and run as its easier to treat the patient faster inside the ambulance instead of having to bring out all the equipment onto the street, work on him then reload him and go.
In the ambulance they uncuffed him, started cpr as he was in cardiac arrest and pulseless, started iv, intubated and got assistance from the fire departmebt paramedics who met them a few blocks away as they were informed of a code 2 patient and George needed higher level of care. He was pulseless and never regained a pulse after an hour of ACLS ( advanced cardiac life support) in the ambulance and at the ER.
 

PatDM'T

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They did a scoop and run as its easier to treat the patient faster inside the ambulance instead of having to bring out all the equipment onto the street, work on him then reload him and go.
In the ambulance they uncuffed him, started cpr as he was in cardiac arrest and pulseless, started iv, intubated and got assistance from the fire departmebt paramedics who met them a few blocks away as they were informed of a code 2 patient and George needed higher level of care. He was pulseless and never regained a pulse after an hour of ACLS ( advanced cardiac life support) in the ambulance and at the ER.

Thank you.
This makes me feel a touch better.

As for my other question about the stunt,
I think I found the answer:

Pathetic
!
 

Kanky

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Plastic toy pigs. There is another officer that lives behind me across the lake. I don't have his number. He brings his police car home so we are going to reach out to him tomorrow and see if anything happened at his place.

I see. I would pack up and leave if someone left actual pigs.

I have relatives who are cops. They are feeling extra defensive right now. They need to do something about the criminals that they work with so that half of America isn’t burned down every few years.
 

awhyley

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Plastic toy pigs. There is another officer that lives behind me across the lake. I don't have his number. He brings his police car home so we are going to reach out to him tomorrow and see if anything happened at his place.

Ok, it's not as bad as I feared. Some like kid stuff. Earlier, I thought that someone had actually left sueys on your property. Pigs are heavy and expensive, and it would have taken alot of effort to send a message like that.
 

Jmartjrmd

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Ok, it's not as bad as I feared. Some like kid stuff. Earlier, I thought that someone had actually left sueys on your property. Pigs are heavy and expensive, and it would have taken alot of effort to send a message like that.
Lol..no if someone went to those lengths I definitely would of left and had the news out here.
He will be here after he gets off work and stay the night and obviously he can handle a weapon. Otherwise I'd feel unsafe in my own home. But as I said he is military police and he doesn't live here so no need to target my place. :0(
 

Kanky

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America’s Protests Won’t Stop Until Police Brutality Does
This country has failed to provide one of the most fundamental protections in the Constitution: the right to life.

By The Editorial Board

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  • June 1, 2020




Protesters facing off against police in New York on Saturday.Credit...Jordan Gale for The New York Times
“Stop Killing Us.” Three words, scrawled on a sign held by a 5-year-old black boy at a Tampaprotest against police brutality. Messages don’t get any clearer than that. Yet to judge by the days of protests sweeping the country, this message still hasn’t gotten through.

Last week it was George Floyd, who died while restrained by a police officer in the middle of a Minneapolis street in daylight, though he posed no physical threat. His alleged offense? Passing a counterfeit bill to buy a pack of cigarettes. Before him it was Breonna Taylor, an emergency room technician in Louisville, Ky., shot dead in her own apartment by officers who used a battering ram to burst through her front door.

Before Ms. Taylor it was Laquan McDonald. And Eric Garner. And Michael Brown. And Sandra Bland. And Tamir Rice. And Walter Scott. And Alton Sterling. And Philando Castile. And Botham Jean. And Amadou Diallo.

The list goes on and on, and on and on. Black Americans brutalized or killed by law enforcement officers, who rarely if ever face consequences for their actions. Derek Chauvin, the officer accused of kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck until he was dead, had 18 prior complaints filed against him.

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In the name of all these men and women and countless more, this is why thousands of Americans have taken to the streets — to express a rage born of despair. Despair that their government has failed to provide one of the most fundamental protections in the Constitution: the right to life, and to not be deprived of that life without due process of law. Stop killing us.

What the protesters want is a country where bad cops are fired rather than coddled. They want a country where cops who beat demonstrators aren’t protected by their unions, but instead lose their jobs. They want a country where the police protect the right of their fellow Americans to gather in public and seek redress for their grievances, rather than one where they are rammed with SUVs. They want a country where federal troops aren’t used against a peaceful protest to facilitate a photo-op.


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A vast majority of these protests have been peaceful. But not all. Where they are not, police officers are often the target of that violence. Officers may feel left with no good options in that moment, but how they respond does matter. Because it’s sometimes the police themselves who make matters worse by instigating physical confrontations, manhandling elderly people and pepper-spraying children. And wherever violence has broken out — whether committed by law enforcement, outside agitators or rioters and looters — it has provided an excuse to shift the debate away from the sources of the original despair.

Riots are “socially destructive and self-defeating,” Martin Luther King Jr. said in 1967, during an earlier spasm of unrest. In the same passage he wrote, “It is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots.”

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“In the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard,” Dr. King said. “As long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again.”

More than half a century later, justice is still being postponed. Racial inequality remains rampant in wealth, housing, employment, education — and enforcement of the law. This is not news, but it is the responsibility of all those in power to recognize and fix it. As President Lyndon Johnson’s Kerner Commission found after studying the inequality at the root of the 1960s riots: “White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it and white society condones it.”

Here are some steps to move the country toward a place where citizens don’t live in fear of those charged with serving and protecting them:

USE-OF-FORCE POLICIES

In departments with policies that sharply limitwhen, where and how police officers may use force, shootings and killings by the police are much lower. For instance, police officers should be required to try de-escalation before resorting to the use of force. They should not be allowed to choke people. Officers should be required to stop other officers from using excessive force.

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TRANSPARENCY

When the police do use deadly force, the public should be able to know about it. That means getting rid of provisions like Section 50-a of New York’s civil rights law, which prevents the release of police personnel and disciplinary records and allows bad officers to continue abusing their power with impunity.

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ACCOUNTABILITY

Police officers enjoy a web of protections against the consequences of their behavior on the job. From the legal doctrine of qualified immunity to state and local police indemnification laws, it is nearly impossible for a plaintiff to get any justice, even when an officer unquestionably violated his or her rights.

UNION CONTRACTS

Across the country, powerful police unions negotiate favorable contracts that shield the police from investigation and discourage citizens from bringing complaints. The contracts make it easier to hire, and harder to fire, officers with documented histories of bad behavior. Cities are under no obligation to agree to these terms, and they shouldn’t.

LEVERAGE FEDERAL FUNDING

Following the beating of Rodney King and the Los Angeles riots in 1992, Congress empowered the Justice Department to oversee local police departments. That led to scores of investigations and long-overdue reforms in places like Baltimore and Ferguson, Mo. But the federal government also has other tools. It can deny grants to police departments that fail to impose strict use-of-force policies or refuse to discipline officers who engage in misconduct.

DEMILITARIZATION

When you have a grenade launcher, even peaceful protesters look like enemy combatants. It’s no surprise that as police departments have stocked up on military-grade equipment, they have acted more aggressively. The Obama administration restricted the flow of certain types of equipment, but President Trump lifted those restrictions in 2017.

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Most of the above reforms can happen right now, as departments around the country have shown. And when they do, the police and citizens begin to see one another as collaborators rather than antagonists. In Camden, N.J., where the police recently adopted some innovative reforms, officers marched alongside protesters. In Louisville, on Monday when it was revealed that the police who shot and killed a man overnight were not recording with body cameras, the police chief was fired.

But in too many police departments there is a culture of impunity. Until that culture is changed, there will continue to be rightful rage at its existence. Rather than just condemning or applauding protesters, Americans should listen closely to what they’re demanding.
 

Black Ambrosia

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Well is everyone convinced that Antifa is a Republican funded anarchy group. They went in to stir up **** so that Trump could play the Law and Order president. That’s what his constituents want to see.
I don’t know enough about antifa to speak on this but I think they’re being co-opted and/or misrepresented based in this story.


White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.

As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, the newly created account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, “Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …”

This isn’t the first time Twitter has taken action against fake accounts engaged in hateful conduct linked to Identity Evropa, according to the spokesperson.

The antifa movement — a network of loosely organized radical groups who use direct action to fight the far-right and fascism — has been targeted by President Donald Trump as the force behind some of the violence and property destruction seen at some protests, though little evidence has been provided for such claims.

Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.

Two hashtags that trended worldwide on Twitter falsely claimed that there was a "cover-up" or a "blackout" of protests in Washington, D.C., overnight. Both appeared to insinuate that protesters have been silenced in some way, perhaps by a secret internet blackout.

Twitter says it has removed the trend from its "trending topics" section because of "coordinated attempts to disrupt the public conversation" around the protests.

Twitter said it suspended several hundred accounts and is investigating the viral spread of the hashtag, which it said was boosted by "hundreds of spammy accounts."

"We're taking action proactively on any coordinated attempts to disrupt the public conversation around this issue," a Twitter spokesperson said.

The spokesperson said the company sometimes pulls down hashtags that violate the company's rules, like platform manipulation.

"We want trends to promote healthy discussions on Twitter. This means that at times, we may prevent certain content from trending. These include trends that violate the Twitter Rules," the Twitter spokesperson said.

NetBlocks, a nonprofit group monitoring worldwide internet access, found no indication of a mass-scale internet disruption in the Washington area overnight or in the last 48 hours.

Journalists covering the protests also took to Twitter to disprove the hoax.

"A lot of people are asking me about a possible #dcblackout. I've been out near the White House since 4 am and haven't experienced any outage," tweeted Victoria Sanchez, a reporter for WJLA, the local ABC affiliate, adding that her colleagues had posted multiple updates throughout the night.

Many accounts tweeting the message had few to no followers. The same messages were also posted on Reddit and 4chan late Sunday. The posts pushing the #DCBlackout hashtag peaked in popularity around 12:30 a.m. ET Monday.

A second narrative boosted by bots and hacked accounts claimed that #DCBlackout is a misinformation campaign. The same message was tweeted verbatim by multiple accounts.

"Yeah...... as someone seeing #dcblackout trending, who lives and works in the DC metro area, and who has friends telecommuting into DC rn..... This hashtag looks like misinformation," read the tweet, which was posted hundreds of times.

Some accounts had few to no followers, while other tweets were posted by users who claim to have been hacked.

One verified Twitter user, Jason Elia, said his account was hacked to tweet the message. Elia lives in Oklahoma City and said he wouldn't go to Washington "unless they build an In-N-Out there." He said he has since changed his password.

The goal of the hashtag seems to be to sow confusion and fear during a chaotic time and to push the #DCBlackout hashtag to the front page of Twitter, where all users would at least glance at the disinformation.

Josh Russell, an independent bot researcher who identifies foreign and domestic hacking and trolling operations, said events like the weekend's protests are ripe for this kind of platform manipulation.

"Any large 'online' event is going to have these types of things happen. Every bad actor that sees the opportunity to create some panic is going to leverage the situation to do so. It's nothing new," Russell said.

Off Twitter, viral text messages of screenshots of doctored tweets have circulated throughout the country. Some of the false text messages claim that extremist groups are plotting to move into residential areas this week.

Bot researchers call this kind of disinformation distribution "hidden viral" text messages, which go undetected on mainstream platforms like Facebook and Twitter and can spread like wildfire without moderation.

Similar "hidden viral" text messages went viral at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., with messages claiming that the institution of martial law was imminent, vaguely citing friends or co-workers.

American officials later claimed that the textswere boosted by Chinese disinformation agents to spread panic.

Russell said hostile foreign governments frequently "look at opportunities to make it seem as though there is an infrastructure failure" during times of crisis.

"This is a common thing for foreign disinformation agents," Russell said. "They would be trying to get people to believe that things are much worse on the ground than they are."
 

discodumpling

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If rioters destroy your employer's properties will the resulting costs affect employee compensation and job security?

If there is a large klan presence that rally could be deadly if things start to burn.

Naaah not mine as I office in Inwood. I'm 100% remote right now and for the foreseeable future. But the folks at the newly acquired facilty in Oxford might feel it. #payit
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Please hold space for mothers protesting for black men....
And their black fathers
And their black husbands/boyfriends/committed partners
And their black grandfathers
And their black uncles
And their black brothers
And their black baby boys who will go from cute to scary in a matter of months or years.

Black women will NEVER EVER be totally detached from any protest about discrimination in the black community. We carry the community in our wombs, and in our hearts.
It is what it is. Protest in person, via money, via spreading awareness on SM. Whatever feels right.

We won't all agree on what/how/if we protest...but a protest is NEEDED and overdue. If it wasn't this...it WOULD have been COVID-related. Economic...Police or Gov't-related....Trust.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Also---
The current Chief of Minneapolis is black.

Shortly after he got there he sued his bosses because of their lack of action on racial discrimination. I have been hearing shocking things about Minneapolis PD for the last 4-5 years. Minneapolis and central US states have a long history of this. This was gonna happen at this level in our generation either way. Nothing I'm seeing and hearing surprises me. Hurts and shocks---yes....but their true nature....revealed as what it is. We MUST move differently going forward. Biden better pick right....or we gonna have 4 more years of Trump....and more blood in the streets.
 

Alta Angel

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Has anyone heard a peep out of any "national Black leaders"? Normally the resident leaders are fighting for airtime and jockeying for position...but I have seen minimal presence. Maybe its just me, but I find this telling.

My question is, how do we channel this energy into lasting policy change, police and community contracts, etc.? How do we get organized? What is the plan?
 

SoniT

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Has anyone heard a peep out of any "national Black leaders"? Normally the resident leaders are fighting for airtime and jockeying for position...but I have seen minimal presence. Maybe its just me, but I find this telling.

My question is, how do we channel this energy into lasting policy change, police and community contracts, etc.? How do we get organized? What is the plan?
I've seen Rev. Al Sharpton, Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Rev. William Barber speaking out several times. I don't know if he's necessarily a "leader" but Roland Martin has used his online news show "Roland Martin Unflitered" to cover this story and other issues that are impacting the Black Community.
 

Alta Angel

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OK. I haven't seen anyone but Jesse Jackson once, so I was curious. I am looking forward to seeing the new guard leadership emerge.

I've seen Rev. Al Sharpton, Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Rev. William Barber speaking out several times. I don't know if he's necessarily a "leader" but Roland Martin has used his online news show "Roland Martin Unflitered" to cover this story and other issues that are impacting the Black Community.
 

sunnieb

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Has anyone heard a peep out of any "national Black leaders"? Normally the resident leaders are fighting for airtime and jockeying for position...but I have seen minimal presence. Maybe its just me, but I find this telling.

My question is, how do we channel this energy into lasting policy change, police and community contracts, etc.? How do we get organized? What is the plan?

THIS!!!
 
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