another ayurvedic hair powder curiosity question

nomoweavesfome · Jul 14, 2008

I'm having a hard time dealing with the fact that ayurvedic powders do not work with me. I don't have closure yet.

I use the Multani Mati powder for the face. You mix it with rosewater and make a paste, apply to face, let dry and rinse with warm water. This stuff is amazing and I use every day!

How come that crap works for me and not the hair powder crap? Can the key ingredient be the rosewater? Can rosewater be safely used on hair? Can you mix the ayurvedic hair powders with rosewater? anybody does/ did this?

nomoweavesfome · Jul 14, 2008

it looks like you could acording to this:
http://www.hennaindia.net/herbal-powders.html

I'm not going to tonit - but I will mix with both
one cup with powder and plain water and another cup with powder and rose water and do a few strand tests on old hair and see what happens.

please respond if you tried............

Neroli · Jul 14, 2008

Try mixing a few teaspoons of the powder into your condish and proceed as usually. For example:

Shikakai: add to condish and co-wash for extra cleansing

Amla: add to condish and co-wash or to after 'poo condish for extra conditioning

The above is easy effort and reaps great results for me . . .

BTW, I don't see why can't use rosewater on hair, sounds like it would be super softening . . .

SelfStyled · Jul 14, 2008

http://public.fotki.com/DenverGirl/denvergirls-shikai-/

Here is a recipe for a nice cowash using shikakai from our own Denver Girl. There is a thread that was also started by her, if you do a search under her user name you can find the thread.

I don't know sweetie, who knows why the powders didn't work. From the little that I do know about Ayurveda, I know that certain powders are to be used with certain powders if that makes any sense, i.e., you wouldn't want to have 2 drying ones mixed together.

I think Neroli's advice is EXCELLENT. You might want to try 1 powder at a time mixed in your most moisturizing conditioner mixed with a little of your favorite oil(s) and see how that goes for you.

I'm rooting for ya!

Neroli · Jul 14, 2008

SelfStyled, that is exactly what I mean - best to start with ONE powder at a time until get a feel for how hair will react.

I soooo love how shikakai and amla works on my hair I haven't been tempted to try the other powders even though been meaning to for last 2 years. I always use one powder at time, shikakai for extra cleansing in co-washes when I want to avoid 'poos and get clean, strong soft hair; and amla for extra conditioning - I live to KISS! :yep:

I also use henna and indigo to color . . .

PassionFruit · Jul 14, 2008

Im not a fan of mixing the poweders with my conditioners but it works for some... I do agree with the idea of using one powder at a time for a bit...also change uop powders... soemtimes you will need moisture, sometimes ya will need a cleaners/astringent...

lately Ive been mixing one powder with my henna ( no indigo) and letting it sit with heat for 30 mins and then go another 30 mins without heat

also, I LOVE using the powders on my face... I use a Shikakai bar daily... but I also use rosewater mixed with lemon and/or orange peel... I recently saw a recipe that called for addign it to the bathwater... Im gonna try that soon

stinastina · Jul 14, 2008

Do you pre-poo with an oil ? That is the ayurvedic way - apply oil first either at bedtime or at least 30 minutes before poo-ing. Your hair comes out more silky that way.

nomoweavesfome · Jul 15, 2008

stinastina said:
Do you pre-poo with an oil ? That is the ayurvedic way - apply oil first either at bedtime or at least 30 minutes before poo-ing. Your hair comes out more silky that way.

yep - did that in it was a hard tangled mess.

I'm relaxed to by the way - It appears the ones with most sucess are natural or textured/texlaxed.

Neroli · Jul 15, 2008

nomoweavesfome said:
yep - did that in it was a hard tangled mess.

I'm relaxed to by the way - It appears the ones with most sucess are natural or textured/texlaxed.

I use a relaxer every 3 months and been using ayurvedic powders for over 2 years with great success. I use henna, indigo, shikaika and amla powders 3 out of 4 times on wash days and my hair is much stronger for it. :yep:

I just add a few tablespoons of a powder to condish and slap on dry dirty hair, rinse and move on.

If just starting out, best to try ONE powder at a time and see how it goes before trying to mix a bunch of different powders at same time. JMHO.

I don't boil, make teas, rinses or anything -- I just add the powder straight to condish and stir good until most of lumps are gone, then apply to hair.

I've never used heat with the powders.

I've never oiled my hair or done anything special to hair before using.

Really, it is that simple, at least for me!

I'm constantly AMAZED at the complicated info on how to use these powders

But that is just me . . .

nomoweavesfome · Jul 15, 2008

well - I did add rosewater to amla only and felt the cosistency and compared it to when I addes the shikaikai to the consistency. Hands down the amla by itself with rosewater felt "slippier". the shikakai added to it felt "strippy".

I'm still scared half to death to try it - I used 2 strands of hair to test , but It's not enough to evaluate average feel on the overall head of hair.

Neroli · Jul 15, 2008

nomoweavesfome said:
well - I did add rosewater to amla only and felt the cosistency and compared it to when I addes the shikaikai to the consistency. Hands down the amla by itself with rosewater felt "slippier". the shikakai added to it felt "strippy".

I'm still scared half to death to try it - I used 2 strands of hair to test , but It's not enough to evaluate average feel on the overall head of hair.

Are you going to use it without adding it to condish?

nomoweavesfome · Jul 15, 2008

conclusion of my findings:
1. powders felt nicer with rosewater than regular tap water.
2. do not like both amla and shikaikai mixed together :nono:

3. amla faired better as a paste although can be looser and still feel "slippier"
4. Shikaikai on the other hand faired better heavily diluted almost like the "tea" everyone raves about. like one teaspoon powder to 3/4 to 1/2 cup rosewater maybe more if I had more to spare.
5. I probably won't try this on my hair no time soon, but I may give it one more try with my new findings just for closure.

6. I still love Multani Mati face clay with rosewater.

7. Rosewater may be the key ingredient for me with the powders.

nomoweavesfome · Jul 15, 2008

Neroli said:
Are you going to use it without adding it to condish?

well - That's another test- lol

I'll let you know my findings with that by the end of the week.

nomoweavesfome · Jul 15, 2008

Neroli said:
I use a relaxer every 3 months and been using ayurvedic powders for over 2 years with great success. I use henna, indigo, shikaika and amla powders 3 out of 4 times on wash days and my hair is much stronger for it.

I just add a few tablespoons of a powder to condish and slap on dry dirty hair, rinse and move on.

If just starting out, best to try ONE powder at a time and see how it goes before trying to mix a bunch of different powders at same time. JMHO.

I don't boil, make teas, rinses or anything -- I just add the powder straight to condish and stir good until most of lumps are gone, then apply to hair.

I've never used heat with the powders.

I've never oiled my hair or done anything special to hair before using.

Really, it is that simple, at least for me!

I'm constantly AMAZED at the complicated info on how to use these powders But that is just me . . .

Are yo u using a cheapie condish or a good one?

Neroli · Jul 15, 2008

nomoweavesfome said:
Are yo u using a cheapie condish or a good one?

I have used the powders in all manner of condish and always get consistently good results. Here are a few I remember off the top:

-nexxus humectress (my beloved!!)
-keracare humecto
-queen helene cholesteral
-le klair cholesteral (various formulas)
-suave coconut milk
-nature's gate aloe vera
-nature's gate henna wash
-white rain
-etc.

ajargon02 · Jul 15, 2008

Neroli said:
Try mixing a few teaspoons of the powder into your condish and proceed as usually. For example:

Shikakai: add to condish and co-wash for extra cleansing

Amla: add to condish and co-wash or to after 'poo condish for extra conditioning

The above is easy effort and reaps great results for me . . .

BTW, I don't see why can't use rosewater on hair, sounds like it would be super softening . . .

Yup I have done this before, and I have the same results as when I use distilled water. When ever I make a paste for my hair or a "hair tea" I will add a little oil and something that has "mucilage" like marshmallow root for slip. My hair loves it!

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