SPIN-OFF: Black people with Type 1 Hair
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scorpiogirl112184
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a girl i went to high school with she was mixed japanese, black and white. her so flat and lifeless she hated!!!!
lovelymissyoli
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I thought type 1 was completely straight meaning no texture whatsoever (i.e. no wave or curl pattern)....am I wrong?? 
As beautiful as those Ethiopian children are, 2 of them still look as though they have type 2 or 3 hair. Now Caligirl's friend's hair sounds like type 1 but these pictures seem misleading.
As for the offspring from two black parents, I have yet to meet any that have type 1 hair...I've seen type 3 (maybe even 2) and their parents were black, however, one of their grandparents happened to be mixed race. So it seems as though if there is mixed blood somewhere in your family's ancestry/pedigree then you have the chance of having a type of hair other than 4, however, most of the A.A.'s I know have either type 3 or 4! Even in cases of bi-racial children, I have yet to meet someone with natural type 1 hair...not flat-ironed hair!!
As beautiful as those Ethiopian children are, 2 of them still look as though they have type 2 or 3 hair. Now Caligirl's friend's hair sounds like type 1 but these pictures seem misleading.As for the offspring from two black parents, I have yet to meet any that have type 1 hair...I've seen type 3 (maybe even 2) and their parents were black, however, one of their grandparents happened to be mixed race. So it seems as though if there is mixed blood somewhere in your family's ancestry/pedigree then you have the chance of having a type of hair other than 4, however, most of the A.A.'s I know have either type 3 or 4! Even in cases of bi-racial children, I have yet to meet someone with natural type 1 hair...not flat-ironed hair!!
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Poohbear
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See, this all boils down to everyone have mixed blood...
Why is it that a black person with straighter/less curlier hair is mixed?
How come a black person with type 4 hair is seen as a black person and never seen as mixed???
So how come a black person with type 1 or 2 hair can't be considered black like a black person with type 3 or 4 hair???
Why is it that a black person with straighter/less curlier hair is mixed?
How come a black person with type 4 hair is seen as a black person and never seen as mixed???
So how come a black person with type 1 or 2 hair can't be considered black like a black person with type 3 or 4 hair???
CatSuga
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Poohbear you are causing confusion. 
It is just genitics.
Now if we are talking about blacks (Africa Americans) they come in all colors and hair types. The reason being is because they are African American. That American peice is what put that type 3 curl into their hair. Be it White, Indian, Arab, or Spainsh, SOMTHING was mixed in that produced this effect.
The truth being I have never seen a full blooded person of the Negroid human race straight out of African (with an ancestory line of full blooded Negroids) with type 1 hair because they are not genitically arranged for straight type 1 hair.
It is just genitics.
Now if we are talking about blacks (Africa Americans) they come in all colors and hair types. The reason being is because they are African American. That American peice is what put that type 3 curl into their hair. Be it White, Indian, Arab, or Spainsh, SOMTHING was mixed in that produced this effect.
The truth being I have never seen a full blooded person of the Negroid human race straight out of African (with an ancestory line of full blooded Negroids) with type 1 hair because they are not genitically arranged for straight type 1 hair.
Poohbear
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I know I know.CatSuga said:Poohbear you are causing confusion.
It is just genitics.
Now if we are talking about blacks (Africa Americans) they come in all colors and hair types. The reason being is because they are African American. That American peice is what put that type 3 curl into their hair. Be it White, Indian, Arab, or Spainsh, SOMTHING was mixed in that produced this effect.
The truth being I have never seen a full blooded person of the Negroid human race straight out of African (with an ancestory line of full blooded Negroids) with type 1 hair because they are not genitically arranged for straight type 1 hair.
I agree that is all just genetics. I just don't like it when someone says "If a black person has straight/wavy hair, they must be mixed". How come it can't just be in that black person's genes that they have straight or wavy hair?
EbonyF
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Not type 1 but by my 1st cousin on my mother side has type 2 hair. She is dark-skinned (mocha baby!) and her hair is like Ananda Lewis'. While her sister is light/brown-skinned and has type 4 hair (Go figure!, and they have the same father).
And they are not mixed. They use to get a lot of questions while growing up since it seems to disturb some Black people when they see a dark skin person with straightish wavy hair.
eta: Someone mentioned above, but I don't believe that you have to have some "other influences" in your lineage in order to have 3-type hair.
And they are not mixed. They use to get a lot of questions while growing up since it seems to disturb some Black people when they see a dark skin person with straightish wavy hair.
eta: Someone mentioned above, but I don't believe that you have to have some "other influences" in your lineage in order to have 3-type hair.
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CatSuga
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Poohbear said:
Because pure blacks don't have straight, curl, wavy hair genes. Somebody, mama grandma, great grandma, great great great grandma, great great great great great grandma was mixed with something.
Our ancestors did not come over on the boat with type 1 hair. When blacks came to the new world their gene pool became mixed with everything else.
Just look at a globe.
Put the bottom of your thumb on west Africa and spread your hand.
The places where your palm touch are type 4
The places where your fingers point spread out types 1 2 3.
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katie said:
Actually, that's a fallacy. All Ethiopians do NOT have Arab heritage. It's funny how many people assume that when Africans don't fit the stereotype it must be that they're mixed rather than the reality that Africans are far more genetically diverse than the stereotype. Also, those pix of Ethiopian children, although adorable, do *not* show Type 1 or even Type 2 hair. I've seen a lot of Ethiopians and Somalis with Type 3 hair, though.
To answer your question, Pooh, yes, I have seen Black people with Type 1 hair. Some have been North African, most have been AA or Caribbean Blacks. Sallie Richardson, the actress, comes to mind, as does Rachel (can't remember her last name) who used to be a host on BET and is from the Caribbean. I've also seen non-celebs with Type 1 hair who have two "Black" (as America defines "Black") parents.
lovelymissyoli said:I thought type 1 was completely straight meaning no texture whatsoever (i.e. no wave or curl pattern)....am I wrong??
I have the same definition too.
qtgirl
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Sallie Richardson is half native american and she is not a type 1; Rachel isn't a type 1 either. Type 1 is completely straight hair like typically Asian hair. Most of the world white and black, do not have type 1 hair, it is the rarest type.
My question is who cares if there are black ppl. with type 1 hair; what does that "prove".
My question is who cares if there are black ppl. with type 1 hair; what does that "prove".
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baglady215
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CatSuga said:
Exactly. Black people with Type 1 (or even Type 2 or 3) hair are mixed with something somewhere down the line. That's not an insult. We're all mixed. Who is 100% of something? Yeah, my mom is black and my dad is black. All of my grandparents are black. My grandfather's grandmother was Native American. Other than that, I really don't know. You're lucky if you can trace back 3 or 4 or more generations, but before that, do you REALLY know what was going on? Slavery and colonialism say no.
Tru_Mind
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CatSuga said:More African children.
Beautiful children, and very pretty hair indeed, but I don't think that it's type 1. I believe that it's type 2 (2a/b)...but it's too hard to tell.
The reason I say this is, because my mama hair looked exactly like the girl on the right's hair in her childhood pics(with braids)...and my mama has some wave to her hair and she's a thin 2a. Type 2 hair frizz...not sure about type 1.
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qtgirl said:
Their hair looks completely straight to me. I guess only their hairstylists know for sure.
The Types to which I was referring are the ones originated by Andre Walker, Oprah's hairstylist, based on his book. If you refer to his book, you will see that Type 1 is not the rarest hair Type and that Asians are not the only ones (btw, there is no "typical" Asian hair - that too is a stereotype; it's the largest continent in the world, with the genetic diversity to match). I think the major reason that people get confused about hair Types is not b/c of Walker's book but b/c of the misinformation that gets spread on hair boards.As for who cares if there are black people with Type 1 hair, that's the subject of Pooh's post. If you don't care about it, then don't bother to post in the thread. Speaking for myself, it doesn't "prove" anything that there are Black people with naturally straight hair. I don't think it's that deep.
FashionistaNY
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My great aunt, she has type 1. However, her father (my great-grandfather was white). But if you ask my aunt she's a southern black woman.
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MeccaMedinah
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Nyambura said:Their hair looks completely straight to me. I guess only their hairstylists know for sure.
As for who cares if there are black people with Type 1 hair, that's the subject of Pooh's post. If you don't care about it, then don't bother to post in the thread. Speaking for myself, it doesn't "prove" anything that there are Black people with naturally straight hair. I don't think it's that deep.
Exactly!! I agree with this whole post.
Tru_Mind
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qtgirl said:
It may look like type 1, but I agree, Sallie and Rachel are both type 2's. I have never seen a black person with type 1 hair. Although it's possible the same way that it's possible for a "white" person to have type 4 hair...which I have seen.
To answer your question I don't think no one here truly cares...it's just a thought.
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Im african and i have type 3 natural hair with some 4 at the back. There is no one from my heritage who is mixed and im pretty sure of that. I know I got my hair from my dad who got his from his mother. I should take a picture of their natural hair but they dont live here....So one doesnt have to be mixed to have a type of hair that is different from type four. I dont know where the type 3 hair came from.....In the northern part of Nigeria, the hausas and fulanis have type 2 and 3 hair and im very sure they're not mixed. Arabs never came to my country only white people and they didnt stay in the North. i think its people in the northern part of Africa that mostly have different hair types. i met a woman from tanzania who has type 2 hair but im not sure if she's mixed or not. Im thinking it depends on the weather or climate. Because its really dry and dusty in the North, nature may have let their hair be a little curly so it doesnt hold sand and dirt and so it doesnt dry out. who knows......
FashionistaNY
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tru_mind said:
It is very possible for a black person to have type 1 hair. My aunt, even though she is mulatto has type 1 hair. She has no type of curl pattern to her hair whatsoever. Her hair has the tendency to lay limp and look greasy if she doesn't wash it every day. Not only, if she attempts to curl her hair, almost immediately without holding sprays/gels the curls fall out and she's back to her bone straight texture.
Most of my grandfather's brothers and sisters have textures between 1 and 2. I have type 4a hair, so whose to say, possibly down the line I could have offspring who has 1 or 2 hair because it is in my genetic make-up.
Hair texture like eye color can skip generations, so I wouldn't be shocked to run across AA's with type 1 hair.
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