2016 Christian Random Thoughts

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  1. kanozas

    kanozas se ven las caras pero nunca el corazón

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    That's what I thought so @Belle Du Jour 's comment about someone not being orthodox was indicating whom???
     
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    True origins of birth control and family planning clinics.





     
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    Maybe her running mate Kaine he's Catholic and he's in line with Vatican II I believe. so is Pence but he's on the fence or way non orthodox
     
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    Alfred Kinsey...

     
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    I love Bey, LOVE Bey, but I feel conflicted about her as well. Some of the scenes in her visual album made me think of possesion, particularly in Sorry and Formation. She did these jerky body movements like she was being taken over or trying to invoke a spirit. Everything in music is calculated and I just want to know why and what the motives are behind that. She is also overly sexual in a way that makes me feel anxious. And I'm no prude. But again, I just wonder why???? When I first listened to her album, I felt quite emotional during certain songs. I think Lemonade is a beautiful work of art, but the occult is undeniably present throughout, which is dissapointing.

    Shonda overdoes it with the gayness. I tuned into getting away with murder the other day and basically everyone was gay, it was weird. Part of what turned me off from Scandal though was that the audience was set up to sympathize with the two adulterers instead of the wife whose husband was cheating on her. It was annoying. I haven't been into anything else by Shonda.
     
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    Hello @beingofserenity, the Lord is working on you - hallelujah! I understand that you're conflicted (it happened to me regarding music as well - I wasn't just conflicted, I was angry, lol), but be grateful that the Lord is showing you truth! He's drawing you closer to Himself and purging you from things that might keep you from knowing Him more and experiencing more of His love. In my experience, leaving secular music behind has helped clear my vision.

    Regarding deliverance from homosexuality, I've heard and read so many testimonies from people whom Christ has delivered. Here is a testimony of a man who lived as a homosexual for 27 years. It's 33 minutes long. There's also Rosaria Butterfield, who responded here to the lady in @Laela's link above. Charlene Cothran, Kegan Wesley and other links regarding people's deliverance:
    http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/love-letter-to-a-lesbian
    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/girl-in-the-picture

    God is mighty to save. I think one just has to be willing to do whatever it takes to receive the deliverance He has made available on the cross, through Christ's shed blood.
    God bless you as you pursue Him. He won't let you down.
     
  9. beingofserenity

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    You were mad, huh lol? So it's ok to say that I felt a little mad too, lol!
    Do you no longer listen to any secular music at all anymore? I can't imagine that right now. What do you listen to on a date or with your significant other, lol?

    As far as homosexuality, I understand that people are delivered from the lifestyle, but does that delivery include removing any romantic/sexual desires for those of the same sex and now only have an inclination for someone of the opposite sex? I am just wondering if it is possible to be completely re born as a straight person. Up until now, I didn't think it was and just figured that those people who claimed deliverance were ignoring their natural inclinations. I did watch a video about a lady being delivered from homosexuality. I tried to watch it. a man started to pray and a lady, or whatever was in her, started to scream. The scream scared me soo badly, I immediately clicked out. Worst scream I can remember ever hearing in my life. It got me to wonder if it is true that homosexuality is due to influences from the enemy and is not something that we can be born with. If it's true, that's amazing. I hated the thought that gay Christians would never be able to experience genuine and loving relationships with people they are truly attracted to.
     
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    I rarely go on instagram, but I follow Dephyne Madyra for hair and Christian inspiration and in light of my thoughts about Beyince's music, this post pops up. File attached.

    I barely know what to say and I don't want to be superstitious, but....Is that a message from God? Does God speak to people via instagram posts lol? This post has helped me form my decision at least. I was wondering how people knew when God was speaking to them, because I've been reading people saying that they do.
     

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  11. Lucia

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    That is spiritual influence we discussed this a couple of pages back in his thread you may want to read our discussion.

    1. Nothing happens in The physical world without happening in the spiritual world first.

    2. If a physical, biological, and by extension psychological cause cannot be found for something then it is acquired somehow knowingly or unknowingly.

    It can be a result of parental or other persons abuse either verbally, physically, sexually or a neglect and or withdrawal of one or both parents. That's environmental but that environment is just fertile ground for the enemy to put that spirit of homosexuality on a person.

    ie. There is no homosexual gene
    There is no physiological cause or explanation for homosexuality.
    So logically it has a third cause spiritual.

    It can be the result of family curses brought upon the family bloodline through heavy occultism practices, pacts with demons or Satan himself and that's the "price" to pay for whatever power, influence or riches he promises.
    Prayer alone can help but they will need help to cast that spirit out of them also the person has to truly want to let go of that lifestyle so that there are no strongholds left withtin them that give demons legal authority to continue to manifest they're will on these people. So if someone's identity is all tied up in being ghey then it's hard for them to see how
    The person has to take custody of their mind. Knowing what are their own true thoughts thoughts and inspiration from God His angles and what is from the enemy and his minions. John said test the spirits well reset your thoughts and the enemy has a pattern
    Rebel, be free let go just do it you surely won't die, you can be god just so these things or follow that false religion. Then once you've fallen he will be your relentless accuser.
     
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  12. beingofserenity

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    Hmmm, okay. I'll look up that discussion.
     
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  14. kanozas

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    Pence is on the fence? About what, exactly and he's a Catholic? I can't stand any of these derned candidates haha. I just hate reading about them, listening to them, full of anxiety and can't wait for this thing to be over. 4 more days!!!
     
  15. movingforward

    movingforward Moving forward and onward

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    I fell asleep before the election results. But before I fell asleep, I felt a sense of peace. Literally, whatever happens around me, it won't affect me or mine.

    I'm not worried.....anymore.
     
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    I wish I had spoken up before but I'm honestly not surprised. I believe Trump has been elected to serve one of 2 reasons (or maybe both) - to usher in the fulfillment of Bible prophecy or to judge America for all its sins.

    I'm reading through Judges now and every time the people turned away from God, he allowed the enemy to suppress them. It was only then that they would cry out to Him and in His great mercy, he would allow a judge to rise up to rescue them from their enemies. The people would then return to God and have peace in the land for years. It was a seemingly never ending cycle. America needs to return to the true and living God. He will have mercy....He always does.
     
  17. Shimmie

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    @Lucia... you ALWAYS speak God's truth and without hesitation or intimidation..and always with God's love.

    Thank you. :grouphug2:
     
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    From this article:
    "Embracing God’s judgments sounds odd to our ears. “How could we embrace something as painful and awful as divine judgment?” But this is because we misunderstand God’s judgments. As someone once said, “God’s judgments are not when things go wrong; it’s when God starts to put things right.” "

    May the Lord make all the crooked places straight, and the rough places smooth.

    Amen, @movingforward, the Lord of hosts is with us, the God of Jacob is our refuge. God bless you all!
     
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    The people wanted a king so God gave them a king (1 Samuel 8, 9).

    I think that we are headed for the end of ages and the hands on the countdown clock have started to move. My pastor says that God's judgement will start with the churches and I believe that He has been doing just that in recent years. It's becoming more and more clear to me that certain events predicted in the Bible are coming to pass. Trump has not been selected to make America great again ( God raises leaders up and causes them to fall) but to usher in events that will fulfill Bible prophecy.

    I have started to pray that God will protect and prosper His people during this time.
     
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    @Shimmie
    There was a debate recently where Hillary not only basically said abortion is ok, she gave a full-throated (practically screaming) support for a woman's right to choose.
    Now the laws are on the books it is legal to get an abortion in the US at this time, and as Prez she would have to balance those who view it as a sin and those who don't believe it's a sin and want to be able have that choice available to them, that's a civic issue. I understand it's hard to walk that one back but but I was really disturbed at how gung ho she was going on about it.

    And she's a self proclaimed Christian so how can she be so staunchly pro-choice ?
    It may sound like I'm judging but we all have the right, no the duty to call out our Christian brothers and sisters on their hypocrisy.

    We must judge to discern and call people out on their stuff I'm so tired of hearing don't judge me. It's like the get out of stupid card.

    Ex: YOLO: Oh I'm going to stomp my bare foot on a rusty nail

    Sane person: Hey don't do that you'll get an infection or gangrene and your foot will fall off.

    YOLO: why you judging me?

    SP: really I'm just telling you what you're doing is wrong and it's going to be bad for you.

    YOLO: I'm going to do me, you do you. I'm going to step on this nail nobody's telling me what to do Hmpf!

    Ok I'm exaggerating sadly only a little bit but you get the idea.
     
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    You know, I actually agree with this. There is an old, historical teaching (unofficial, but spoken and prophesied on by many saints through the ages) of something called The Great Chastisement.

    I think we're headed toward that.

    Our chastising and cleansing won't come via elections or political means, but by the hand of God.
     
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    I'm not scared anymore. This is a very exciting time in history. It feels like something big is happening. The start of a new era, perhaps.

    I read somewhere that it is better for Trump to have win because there are certain forces behind Hillary that would have used her as a puppet. Those same forces are not around Trump.

    Maybe God really is doing something. It can't be a coincidence that I've suddenly heard his call in a major way and now all this is happening.
     
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    Don't trust in the "saintliness" of Republicans either. They had many years to repeal Roe vs. Wade and what did they ever do while in power? Only marginal statements uttered to make us think they are fighting the good fight - just enough to make people think that they elected "Christianity." It's not about religion, it's about MONEY. They will not repeal it, not even this time (or I'll eat my hat) because they want votes and many people cross party lines in elections, presidential, state and local. I've uttered it ad nauseum but the true "pro-life" person understands ALL stages of human life as important. All you ever hear from Republicans is how to cut back on social programs. Ok, you've saved the baby, but curse his blackness now that he's born because he's on the dole? Warmongering mindsets? Those are people being killed in war. Supporting an open racist? That is not christianity and that is not pro-life. You cannot have it both ways.

    I personally sense that Trump might not set foot in office and that something horrible might happen.
     
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    I'm not raging mad that Trump won... disappointed but not angry - because I believe he will do as much for black folk as Obama did for black folk: Nada.
    I don't get the protesting, either, it's un-American. As much as I believe Trump to be a racist bigot, he was elected by the people who voted for him. Was the election rigged? I won't give much thought to that because there's always the bigger picture that only God Himself can see. I don't plan to move out the country..this is my home. I do think this time will test a lot of Christians. As Christ followers we are always protected by the Most High so there is no need to feed fear but continue to have faith, even under a Trump presidency.
     
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    I truly believe that God has saved us from a far harsher, even a deadly judgment than that of racism, by taking this election away from Hillary Clinton. If Hillary had won, this country would be turned into a bloodbath of aborted innocent lives ---- with God's reaction of harsh judgment upon this heinous act.

    Hillary's full intent, plan and agenda was to legalize to have babies aborted up until the birth of a child -- up to the point of a baby's normal delivery. Originally, both she and Bernie Saunders were in support of and legislating aborting a baby at 36 weeks in the womb. Then Hillary moved it higher, saying that an unborn child has no constitutional rights. They went too far....TOO FAR! This is pure, pre-meditated, on purpose 'MURDER'.

    It is the willful taking of a human life; a precious, delicate, viable life unable to defend itself.

    Hillary had to be stopped.
    Her mission had to be Aborted. Hence, she lost the election.

    Donald Trump doesn't frighten me. Neither the KKK or any demon for that matter. As a woman of God, I have full authority over the devil. We have lived with racism all of our lives and it cannot and will not stop God's plan for our lives. Period. I've lived far too long in the Word of God for me to doubt Him, and I have lived seeing God's Word come to pass in my life and in the lives of others, far too many times, for me to fear any devil.

    God 'trumps' Donald Trump and anybody else upon this earth. Without God, no one would have breath. Without God, no one would have life.

    What DOES frighten me are the scores of millions of people who don't see God as God and do not see this mass killing of innocent babies as an issue. What concerns me more are those who call themselves Christians, who have turned a blind eye to this. As the Bible says, they have deafened their ears and hardened their hearts and souls to it. They call themselves Christians, yet they are void of the Holy Spirit, for by choice, by blindness, they've chosen to stand not for God's Truth, but instead, they stand for the lies of the world.

    In their minds, they have made all kinds of validations and justifications, all of which make them, who support Hillary in this, an accomplice. Hillary's mission reminds me of the incidents in the Bible, where the evil kings / leaders commanded that the babies 2 years and under, be killed. The Hebrew midwives were ordered to kill the babies immediately upon birth. The book of Exodus shares this account regarding the birth of Moses, yet his life was spared. Another account was after the birth of Jesus, when King Herod ordered the death of all male babies 2 years and under to be killed. Hillary Clinton has the very same evil spirit as those leaders in the Bible who ordered the deaths of those innocent babies. She is being used of satan, and here's one theory why.

    satan knows that his time is quite short. Yet, he also knows that God has a plan for the new lives that are yet to be birthed into the earth. A plan to bring God's Word and to make it even more effectual than it is today. satan's plan is to kill the babies before their life has a chance to bring forth God's plan. As always, God will protect His divine plan, however, satan, because of his evil enmity against God, is out to steal, kill and to destroy every human life that he can.

    In addition, Hillary was / is after the Church (the True Church). She is after the Church's rights to honor the Word of God, would have been further stolen due to her drive to further gay rights. Gays know the Word of God is against them and yet it is their further agenda to stop the PURE Men and Women of God from speaking God's Truth about their sinful lifestyle.

    So...what is God's plan? He has given a time of Grace and Mercy unto this land. God is giving people a chance to come to know Him and to love and trust Him. The Word of God says, 'Whosoever Will, let him come unto the water of life and take freely and be filled....

    This election result is giving people a chance to get right with God before His judgment comes. Hillary would have brought forth that judgment quite speedily.

    I am... "Un-trumped" :rose:
     
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    Disclaimer: Any posts outside of the ones in this thread are about other topics, especially politics, the legal implications and do not indicate fully my personal beliefset, nor the vote I cast, nor all religious opinions regarding many of the issues affecting this nation post-elections. Take it all with a grain of salt and please do not unjustly judge the intentions of any of it, attributing to me nor to anyone else discussing legal and political issues as non-Christian as one does not know the entirety of another's thoughts nor actions. Thank you.


    Ladies, here is Donald Trump's first 100 days-plan. NRP edition is longer and more explanatory whereas Vox is the shortened list for those who will read it:

    http://www.npr.org/2016/11/10/501597652/fact-check-donald-trumps-first-100-days-action-plan
    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/10/13584390/donald-trump-first-100-days


    QUESTION: What will you personally do to make sure that Roe vs. Wade is stricken down? Is one's responsibility now over since the vote?

    No actions to repeal Roe vs. Wade because SC appointments yet, I understand, but Trump is to quickly appoint to the SC. I don't remember exactly how long it actually takes to vet and to appoint. What if, within the first year, nothing is done as in the past 2 decades, even under Republican admin? Please consider this article:

    http://fortune.com/2016/11/10/trump-supreme-court/
    [Excerpt]
    During the third presidential debate, Trump claimed Roe v. Wade (the landmark 1973 ruling that guarantees women access to abortion) would be overturned “automatically” if he was elected. This is, of course, not true since the U.S. legal system doesn’t work that way. But it does raise the question of whether the Supreme Court will be more inclined to take up hot button social issues like abortion and affirmative issues.


    The Supreme Court has mostly maintained the status quo around such issues in recent years, including in a 5-3 ruling this summer that struck down abortion restrictions in Texas. And notably, Justice Anthony Kennedy sided with the court’s four liberals in the decision. This means that whoever Trump appoints to replace Scalia is unlikely to introduce a major ideological shift on the court. But as noted above, all bets are off if Trump appoints more than one Justice.
     
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    Shimmie "God is the Only Truth -- Period" Staff Member

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    :wave: @Lucia...

    If someone, were to pull a gun on Hillary and threaten her life, would she stand there and staunchly say, 'It's your constitutional right', so go ahead and pull the trigger". Would she say, 'It's your hand, it's your body to do with what you choose, so go right on ahead and shoot..."

    :nono: No, she would not. :nono: As a matter of fact, she'd beg for her life to be spared. Yet, she thinks it's a woman's right to kill a full term infant. And infant who cannot defend his/her self.

    As for those who say we are judging...really? It's only when they are called out for what they are doing wrong, that we hear that, whinery. However, if we say they have a nice hairstyle, a nice article of clothing (which is still 'a judgment' :look: :rolleyes: ) they will smile from ear to ear, and say, thank you.

    It's all a matter of what they are being called out on. If it doesn't validate them, they cry, judgment. If it does validate them, it's a compliment well received. When folks say, 'Don't judge me, they are saying, don't disagree with my wrong doing..." That's exactly what it is. :yep:
     
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    @Galadriel... :wave:

    Just wanted to say, "Hi" to you, my sister, that's all. Oh... and one of these: :grouphug2:

    Love to you and Hubby and the Babies. :love3:
     
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