Cop Walks Into Wrong Apartment And Guns Down Innocent Man

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  1. Reinventing21

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    I thought the neighbor was describing what the camera recorded, not that she saw that part with her own eyes.

    Honestly though this story gets fishier and fishier...too many changes...
    As someone pointed out some cops become cops, military etc. so they can legally kill. Maybe she really is one of those.
     
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    Girl you are right. I did not watch the video. I was going off the description by the neighbor of the 911 call and camera recording. Since you watched, I will take your word for it as I know that there are just too many things that don't add up and just too much backtracking on the reporting of this tragedy. I guess I was just hoping that for just once this was not a racially motivated shooting but ...just tired.
     
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    Okay... even worse. How would her surveillance camera record that if it was all the way inside of his apartment?
     
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    I believe he opened the door and she shot him. I did go back and check and the neighbors said they heard pounding on the door. She gave him no warning, no “put your hands up”, nothing. Black people don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Ahh...I see what you are referring to. Don't mind me. I am exhausted and not connecting all the dots. Thank you for bringing attention to that detail in this whole bait and switch story. SMH

    ETA: This story has so many holes and changes aka lies that I cannot even keep track!
     
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    *Got this from Instagram. I can’t confirm the accuracy of the door pictures or if officers actually get different/special locks, but if it’s true... :nono: Definitely intentional.
     
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    ^^^ Agreed if the door locks are of completely different design. Case closed. Any other information would just be extra.

    Can we get more confirmation about the special locks and compare because that's all I need to know to know the real deal?

    ETA: Darn wrong doors. They used key fobs. Still will like to see comparison if officers get additional locks/special looks.
     
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    ^^^ That's what I'm saying. I've had both type of doors and they both lock as soon as you close the door. There is no way to set it up for those doors to be unlocked if they are closed, unless the fob lock is dismantled and then it would show up as green. I've locked myself out of those doors while getting mail or taking the trash out because you need the fob or the code to get in.

    For the code door, the code is the primary opening method. If the code doesn't work, then you try the key. There is another version that my coworker has where you can use the code and the key will drop from the box, but that's for emergencies.
     
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    Mandatory positive? Looks like we finally got ourselves the perfect black victim. Botham Jean was a squeaky clean upstanding citizen. Peep how he’s being treated in the press. Seen in a suit and tie, they talk about his good grades in college, strong work ethic, etc. You know they would have thrown shade somehow if they could- dug up a picture of him looking raggedy. New evidence suggests that he was behind on child support or the medical examiner found trace amounts of opium in his system (from a poppy seed muffin). :rolleyes:
     
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    TBH ..my first theory was noise issue and being tired she probably wanted to threaten him not to mess with her sleep that night.

    Then, I read it was a floor below hers and I said definitely not. Now they have confirmed it was the floor above hers, then I am back to that theory. Also how does garage thing work? Why didn’t she notice she had driven one level higher? IMO, it is easier to go less than more.
     
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    I'm still waiting for someone to put Zimmerman out of our misery!
     
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    This is why police departments can’t be trusted. Their 1st inclination is to protect the officer - not find the truth. I’m sure any racist social media content from this woman was erased while they withheld her name and likely tried to find negative info about the victim. I’m surprised they didn’t plant drugs in his apartment.

    There is an inherent conflict in having the department that committed the crime also investigate the crime. If you ever happen to record a scene containing evidence in a crime be sure to foward it to everyone you know plus social activists and news agencies BEFORE turning anything over to the cops.
     
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    What's the motive to kill a random black tenant that she never met though? Was he the only BM in the building?
     
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    I have a fob key entry and it does not lock automatically behind me, I have to manually lock it. I can’t upload pics for some reason to show. Southside Flats is a few minutes away from my apartment and built around the same time, and based on the pic above the key fob entry looks the same...however... I highly doubt a Black man left his door unlocked.

    A Black male coworker who also lives in the area pulled me to the side yesterday and was like “that could’ve been us” (Southside was on his short list for his move here). The terror of being Black in America.

    ETA: my building also has a ton of security cameras, I’d be surprised if SSF didn’t have the same....so what’s up with the footage?
     
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    White devil. Do they always need a motive? Whites have killed plenty of black people just because they’re black, despite the fact that they aren’t the only black person.

    There are theories that she’s had noise complaints against him, but there’s no evidence of it thus far. But only she and him would know how they may have crossed paths in and around the building, and what their interactions were. Crazy people don’t need much to target you.
     
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    I'm speaking from a prosecution standpoint. They need to establish a firm motive other than "white devil." An event that triggered her murderous tendencies, a past dispute, etc.
     
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    Yeah they are going to need something or else she's getting off. I think she's lying about all of it and the prosecution needs to prove it and come up with or find the reason why she did it. Idc what they come up with long as it convinces a jury to put her in jail.
     
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    I still maintain that there was some type of history there - a relationship or something. I read earlier that a computer and other items were removed from the victims home. They are looking for a connection. A connection that could mean the difference between a manslaaughter or murder conviction.
     
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    Well there was a photo of her with family/friend in an all lives matters tshirt and white supremacist gesture. When the psychopath found out a black man lived in the apartment just below her, she felt it was an opportunity for her to fake a story about an accident.
     
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    This is what I was thinking. Maybe unrequited interest or something.
     
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    So she went there to threaten him...

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/at...ink-dallas-cop-innocent-man-gunned-apartment/

    Amber Guyger, 30, had just finished a 15-hour shift when she claims to have accidentally approached the wrong apartment, where she found her door ajar and shot at a “large silhouette” that turned out to be her neighbor, a successful young man named Botham Jean, who she killed.

    Guyger has been charged with manslaughter, but an attorney for her victim has pointed to several inconsistencies, including neighbors saying they heard a female knocking and shouting “let me in” before the killing.

    The attorney for the victim, S. Lee Meritt, appeared on CNN Tuesday where he was asked by host Brooke Baldwin whether there was any connection between the two.

    “The only connection we have been able to make is that she was his immediate downstairs neighbor,” Meritt said. “And there were noise complaints from the immediate downstairs neighbors about whoever was upstairs, and that would have been Botham. In fact, there were noise complaints that very day about upstairs activity in Botham’s apartment. Botham received a phone call about noise coming from his apartment from the downstairs neighbor.”
     
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    I have definitely gotten into it with my downstairs neighbors multiple times and used to answer my door with a bat. But I just reported them to the condo board and they got fined and moved.
     
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    Prime Minister of St Lucia addresses Dallas media...don't be shocked if he ends up at the WH, trying to get a photo-op..

     
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    I am still at odds with my neighbor....I have had to increase my security because of her..
     
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    The unit under me went through foreclosure so it’s empty for now.
     
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    Motive is not required. It does help prove intent.

    However, you do not have to show the person had an intent (using motive) to kill to charge and convict for involuntary manslaughter.
     
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    Right but if people want a real conviction that won't lead to 3 months parole....

    They've already constructed a narrative for the defense, albeit sketchy.
     
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    I will never understand why BM date WW....(not saying he did) but after reading this and the Van's thread...smh
     

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