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HPV and Hair Loss

Discussion in 'Hair Loss' started by My Friend, Jul 1, 2011.

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HPV Testing

Poll closed Jul 31, 2011.
  1. Yes. I have been tested

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  2. Yes. Both myself and dh/so have been tested

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  3. No. No test. I don't want to know.

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  1. My Friend

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    Some articles say that hair loss can occur due to stress on the immune system. Also, cervical, anal, and throat cancer diagnoses are increasing by leaps and bounds due to HPV. Most men with HPV have no symptoms and are unaware that they have it.

    I know someone who was a virgin when she married but her DH wasn't. She has just completed treatment for stage 3 cervical cancer due to HPV.


    ***Please answer the following questions***

    Do you think everyone that is sexually active should be tested?

    Would you ask your DH/SO to be tested?

    If they came back positive, how would you handle it?

    Knowing what you know now, would you ask a potential lover to get tested?
     
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  2. greenandchic

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    I ask every potential lover (especially if we get serious) to get the full STD tests for everything. I do the same in return for him.
     
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    ^^^^^ I'm unsure if HPV testing is included in the standard STD testing. I know HIV has to be specifically requested. I'll ask my Dr.
     
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    You have to ask for it and you should.

    However it can take 6 months to incubate in the body so it may not show right away....
     
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    HPV isn't included in most standard STD testing sites. Where I work at (health center), usually it's HIV/AIDS, Chlamydia and Syphilis. Women and Men must specifically request tests for Herpes, Gonorrhea, Trich, HPV and others is you're unsure of.

    Working in a clinic, I've seen married couples, young teens and mostly women in the clinics. We are working on getting more men into the clinic by offering free premium condoms or lubricates. Working in this setting has taught me, always get tested with each and every new partner, every 6 months.

    Also, you don't have to be sexually active to get HPV. Our health brochures state while sexually activity is the most common way to obtain it, it can be picked up from towels, toilet seats, etc.
     
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    I would love to hear how you *think* you would handle it if your DH/SO tested postive. A lot of women are having to deal with this silently and unfortunately when they are being told they have cancer. Also, unless you had only 1 partner there is no way of knowing who had it first.
     
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    I don't think there is an hpv test for men
     
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    There are over 100 HPV viruses, 30 are STD's. Those are the ones they are checking for and the one's Gardisil (vaccine) is suppose to protect you from.
    At the support groups for cervical cancer, they tell the women not to leave, blame or kill their husbands or SO.
     
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    I'm soooo glad that you mentioned that HPV is not only transmitted by sexual contact. It's time to educate people that there are other ways this is transmitted.


    A few years ago when they noticed a rise in women in particular with abnormal cervical cells and or pap smears it was thought to have been mostly related to sexual intercourse. In my personal opinion due to the fact that HPV is being closley monitored now, the Health Care Teams are noticing more and more people actually have it/ had it and the body has an ability to cure itself. This is why it is being spread so rapidly.

    More than 25% of allllll US women have or could have had it without even knowing.The best course of action is getting routine pap smears which they have different versions for different risk levels and of course the vaccine.

    But good news is it can be cured and removed if caught early but that just doesn't guarantee it won't come back...
     
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    Yes. There are different forms of HPV :yep: Warts is one kind. Yes. You can get from towels, swimming pools, toilets, etc. I'm asking about the HPV you get from having SEX.
     
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    I still would not be angry because it is not your normal std at all. You can have HPV and never know it and your body can cure you of it. And I know this to be true of other STD's (or at least the symptoms lying dormant)but for example say you had a strain of HPV "Myfriend" and didn't know it right/never knew about it (which happens)... You gave it to your boyfriend right..

    But for years you went for your annual check up your pap came back normal.... so basically you and your boyfriend just kept passing it back and forth to one another... The next time you go for your annual it comes back abnormal.... First off doesn't mean he gave it to you because unless your asking a DR. to check what strain of HPV you have most will tell you is that you had an abnormal pap smear.... And offer treatment options (such as a biopsy)or just wait it out to see if your body will fight it off itself which surprisingly in A lot of cases happen.

    My long drawn out point is its not like HIV ,or other std's where if you get tested after contracting the disease you will ALWAYS be positive... This has the ability to cure itself without you ever knowing..
     
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    It is not included in standard testing for males to my knowledge. Most female patients do not discover that they have it until their annual pap smear is done. It is not considered the same as your conventional STDs like Gonorrhea/Chlamydia/Trichomonas etc, as it can be contracted via casual contact as well, according to my attending physician.
     
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    There are four stages from normal to carcinoma insitu (normal, ASCUS, LGSIL, HGSIL, Carcinoma Insitu), and it is rare for a woman to jump from normal to Carcinoma Insitu. It tends to go in stages, and that's why it is important for women to have a pap smear annually. The guidelines have actually changed recently. In my clinic we no longer do pap smears on sexually active girls under 18 (the most at risk for STDs/HPV infection). And not all pap tests reflex to HPV. It has to be coded a certain way, or that test won't be added to your pap. So be sure that your GYN is sending out your pap smear to reflex to HPV if abnormal (for most places this is standard though).
     
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    Why are they not testing sexually active 18 and under girls?? Is it because they find that this age group is not as at risk for HPV(or abnormal pap) becoming cancerous due to their bodies ability to fend it off??
     
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    The biggest problem with HPV is that men are usually asymptomatic and that their is no definite test for HPV in men. Most men find out their is a problem when a woman they are sleeping with develops symptoms. Its like a silent deadly disease that no one thinks about.

    As for the original question to how I would react - it really depends on my emotional involvement with the guy. Is he someone I really like that I feel chemistry with and a strong attachment to or is he someone I am passing the time with. My health is my prize possession so I would have to think long and hard before we went any further.

    And most physicians say your body can overcome it but their is no cure for HPV since its a virus. In all honestly my friends don't understand why I am celibate - this is the reason. When you are over 30 and meet men who have slept with tons of woman my heart sinks and I just say forget it. If I don't do anything at all I know I am safe but these long lonely nights are becoming harder to deal with, especially when I don't have any potentials on the horizon, but that is another topic.

    Great topic OP.
     
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    I definitely believe in regular testing for STDs. Regarding HPV, I know that it is not like other STDs and it's can be harder if not impossible to say where you got it from in some cases because it can lie dormant/undetected.
     
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    I see what your saying but I wasnt trying to look to blame someone in this thread :nono: My point is right now anal, throat and cervical cancer is on the rise due to the STD form of HPV. No one is licking a towel and getting throat cancer :nono: The medical community is not making a big deal out of this because it would cause civil unrest, just like HIV did when it arrived in the US.

    Basically, a huge part of the population would need to stop having sex in order to eradicate this virus. Not the swimming pool version, the sex version.

    There was a case on Dateline about a wife hiring a hit man to kill her husband because he gave her HPV and it was the kind that leads to cervical cancer. Again, i'm not looking for feedback on who to blame, etc. My reason for the thread is listed in those three questions and to see if we as women should be more proactive about protecting ourselves from HPV and to put it out there for women to think about.

    If you see all the women I do who are diagnosed with cancer due to HPV, you might think differently. Those women wish the never had oral sex, anal sex or vaginal sex.
     
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    YOu are sooo right babyu21 HPV is a virus and their is no cure but there is a way to stop the progression of this disease... If you contract HPV and have the pre cancerous and or abnormal cells lasered off you do have a good chance of them not returning therefore resulting in normal pap smears again and pre cancerous cells gone... That is what I meant when I said cure....
     
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    It's part of the new national guidelines. I've been told that most teens that develop abnormal cells/abnormal paps do so because of a combo of early sexual activity and physical/hormonal changes...and the likelihood of them developing cervical cancer is extremely low.
     
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    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For a minute, I was like am I the only one that understands my post :spinning: Thank you for adding your comments to the thread. I will say it again (not directed at you ar anybody in particular)


    THIS IS NOT ABOUT BLAME OR CALLING YOUR MAN A WHORE OR LEAVING HIM.
     
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    Ohh no i know your not looking to place blame... My point is that with this disease its hard very hard to pinpoint its origin which is why its so wide spread and is spreading so quickly... There was a point in time when if you had an abnormal pap and then had an abnormal biopsy or coloscopy ( sp?) you had HPV there was no "strains" you got offered cryosurgery and etc (forget the other) and just kept getting retested every year...
     
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    This topic most definitely needs to be discussed and brought out in the open. Heck even Sex and the City did an episode where Miranda caught Chlamydia. The question is how do we get people to start talking about STD's and HPV more openly and honestly. Men aren't going to be up for this because it would cut them off from the ever ready stream of goodies.

    I remember when the study came out about oral sex and its link to throat cancer. I don't think their was one man out there that was willing to stop or slow down on oral to save a persons life. Promiscuous sex is going to end a lot of lives prematurely and their is no orgasm that is worth it. JMO
     
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    I was shocked to learn that Farrah Fawcett had HPV that led to her getting anal cancer and dying.
     
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    Thank thank you thank thank you. This is my point exactly...... There are a lot of teens with abnormal paps and abnormal cervical cells who will never go on to have cervical cancer and further more will go on to routinely have negative pap smears after a procedure like cryo....
     
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    Abnormal cells does not mean they had/have HPV :nono: Certain forms of HPV lead to cervical cancer, again this thread is about HPV not paps that can be abnormal due to 1 billion reasons
     
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    There are currently studies going on to determine if the number of cases related to the 14-18 strains of HPV that can lead to cervical cancer could be significantly reduced by vaccinating pre-sexual boys as well as girls with the Gardasil vaccine. As it stands only girls ages 12-24 are eligible for Gardasil.

    Honestly, this is where the focus needs to be, IMO.
     
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    ***Please answer the following questions***

    Do you think everyone that is sexually active should be tested?

    Yes I do including 18 and younger

    Would you ask your DH/SO to be tested?

    yes I would if I planned on being with someone long term let's face it, I would want to be prepared in the event of the condom ever being removed, slipped off and or breaking...

    If they came back positive, how would you handle it?

    I would grab my Dh and run our Arse down to the clinic because early prevention and detection is the best method and chance for fighting any stage of HPV...

    Knowing what you know now, would you ask a potential lover to get tested?

    Heck yes I would...In order to get dyck =======> I need my life, better safe than sorry...lol seriously though...[/QUOTE]
     
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    I was informed about this study. I'm unsure how I feel about it. The current vaccine is causing death, infertility and other long term side effects. I'm also not so sure that it won't only focus on high risk areas (the hood). What would be your opinion regarding the vaccine? Would you give it to your son or daughter?
     
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    Right Op but if you read my post earlier an abnormal pap used to be classified as one of the first signs and or stages..... I know because I was molested at an early age and it happened to me... At 15 I was a virgin who honestly never had sex and I had an abnormal pap and biopsy done .. My doctor told and "diagnosed" me with having HPV.. I had no signs or symptoms what so ever.... I'm not disagreeing with you, all I'm saying is that a lot of women are under the notion that all HPV leads to caner.. not true according to the center for disease control..

    What are the signs, symptoms and potential health problems of HPV?
    Most people with HPV do not develop symptoms or health problems from it. In 90% of cases, the body’s immune system clears HPV naturally within two years.

    But sometimes, certain types of HPV can cause genital warts in males and females. Rarely, these types can also cause warts in the throat -- a condition called recurrent respiratory papillomatosis or RRP.
    Other HPV types can cause cervical cancer. These types can also cause other, less common but serious cancers, including cancers of the vulva, vagina, penis, anus, and head and neck (tongue, tonsils and throat).
    The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types that can cause cancer. There is no way to know which people who get HPV will go on to develop cancer or other health problems.
     

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