dontspeakdefeat said:If the world could save themselves with good intentions they would already be saved. Everyone has good intentions don't they?? Doesn't mean everyone is going to heaven.
Sweet C said:Thanks for the link, Jujuboo. You know I was wondering the same thing when Oprah said something to this lady on her show the other day about God, and I was thinking "huhhh?"
Poohbear said:What does the New Age spirituality believe??? I don't wanna order her profile. What does her profile say???
I admire Oprah's generosity but I think it's sad how people idolize her.
Poohbear said:What does the New Age spirituality believe??? I don't wanna order her profile. What does her profile say???
I admire Oprah's generosity but I think it's sad how people idolize her.
I didn't say that. Oh wait, you aren't talking to me are you.JuJuBoo said:I like Oprah, but based on what she's said on her show throughout the years, I can't say she's a Christian. Having T.D. Jakes on the show doesn't convince me. She had him sit in the AUDIENCE, he wasn't even on the stage! And she used to do that "Finding Your Spirit" feature on the show for a WHILE. Shoot, the only spirit she needs to find is JESUS!
In the clip, I don't think she was illustrating the other woman's point. She was defending her point of view. She's a good person, I think Oprah's an exceptional woman, but the pathway to God is NARROW. Everything she says SOOOUUNDS great, but it's not always the truth. Sorry Oprah.
Honeyhips said:That's true. I only mentioned TD b/c maybe she is beginning to change. I didn't say that. Oh wait, you aren't talking to me are you.
JuJuBoo said:I like Oprah, but based on what she's said on her show throughout the years, I can't say she's a Christian. Having T.D. Jakes on the show doesn't convince me. She had him sit in the AUDIENCE, he wasn't even on the stage! And she used to do that "Finding Your Spirit" feature on the show for a WHILE. Shoot, the only spirit she needs to find is JESUS!
In the clip, I don't think she was illustrating the other woman's point. She was defending her point of view. She's a good person, I think Oprah's an exceptional woman, but the pathway to God is NARROW. Everything she says SOOOUUNDS great, but it's not always the truth. Sorry Oprah.
JuJuBoo said:I just watched it again. Man, that lady in white was DOIN it. Why can't all Christian's be that bold? I give her a whole lot of credit for standing up to one of the most influential and popular persons on the planet. She straight up told Oprah "that's because you intellectualize it..." Wow! That's some boldness! On national television I might add. :applause:
ladydee36330 said:I stopped watching Oprah years ago.
Ayeshia said:so if she wasnt a Christian and she said thatshe wasn't (not going by her off the wall comments, just in general)...ya'll wouldnt watch her show?
ladydee36330 said:I stopped watching Oprah years ago.
Ayeshia said:so if she wasnt a Christian and she said thatshe wasn't (not going by her off the wall comments, just in general)...ya'll wouldnt watch her show?
I wish I could view the clip so that I can hear what she said for myself...I'm not getting exactly what was said by reading this thread and the responses...and no one wants to fill me in either.Lanelle said:What did she say? I couldn't view the clip that was posted, it didn't work for me.
MonaLisa said:Okay, I watched the clip, I'm confused.
I heard Oprah reference a spiritual speakers book, Marianne Williamson and said what she said in the book.
I've never gotten the impression that Oprah was not a believer in Jesus or did not feel he is the spirit that strengthens her.
I believe, she as a talk show host, that not only addresses a forum in America...but Worldwide...was trying to convey to the woman in the audience...to try and look through the eyes of someone in ANOTHER country, not the U.S., who's primary religious beliefs do focus on God/Jesus Christ, who have never ever heard of Jesus Christ or know of his word...but if they lived their lives as Jesus would have wanted them to...wouldn't that allow them to get into heaven. That was the point I got.
Or do I need to re-watch the clip?[/QUOTE]
Maybe I do too...I agree with you.
I think Oprah made a very valid point in regards to people who have never heard about Jesus but still live their life in a way that lines up with the word.
The bible even makes a reference to these people:
Romans 2:11-16 (New King James Version)
11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
Also, what does Oprah's beliefs have to do with her as a person and not watching her show...isn't that a bit judgmental?
Lanelle said:I wish I could view the clip so that I can hear what she said for myself...I'm not getting exactly what was said by reading this thread and the responses...and no one wants to fill me in either.
Ayeshia said:so if she wasnt a Christian and she said thatshe wasn't (not going by her off the wall comments, just in general)...ya'll wouldnt watch her show?