Spin Off: Gossip - Christian discussion

gone_fishing

New Member
I posted this in off topic but someone mentioned the christian stance on gossip which I left out because I knew that thread would get shut down in secular LHCF.

So I'm posting it here for anyone that wants to respond especially for folks like N&W who only participtes in this forum area.

Here is the link to the other thread -> http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=187525

Spinning off of an older thread:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/for...87#post2625087

I read a lot of interesting stories from a lot of you regarding how gossip has hurt you and how it has impacted your life.

Although I try very hard not to gossip in general (I do not share secrets, spread lies, or untruths or even share information that I heard but am not sure about....) I will be extra careful to adopt this way of thinking in 2008.

Passing along secrets, in today's media-rich society, feels natural. We are so bombarded by celebrity news, political rumors, and unsubstantiated insider information that gossip, on large and small scales, has become culturally acceptable. Personal information about others is often regarded as "too good not to share." Gossip, however, is far from harmless. Repeating something heard through the grapevine, telling a story full of unconfirmed information, or betraying a confidence can ruin reputations, destroy friendships, and cause deep emotional wounds. Many times, the gossiper has no hurtful intent and doesn't realize that their actions could have negative consequences.

Gossip is perpetuated for many reasons. Some people use gossip to turn attention away from their own inadequacies, while others use it to grow closer to their chosen group by excluding outsiders. And for many it is simply a form of cruelty that holds few ramifications. But gossip has never helped a victim, solved a problem, or lifted someone's spirit. More often, it is an assault on an individual's character and an invasion of privacy. Words become distorted as they travel from person to person.

Luckily, we each have the power to thwart gossip by not believing the rumors we hear and by not passing discrediting information along. If you hear something negative about someone who is not present to defend themselves, ask yourself if what you're hearing is true or based on false information. Instead of accepting the truth of the statement, ask the subject directly. And, if you feel tempted to share the information, ask yourself what purpose sharing the information would serve.

Talking about someone or an occurrence does not always mean you are engaging in gossip. Sometimes, sharing positive information can help a person or build up their reputation. Most gossip is easy to identify because the information involved is hurtful or assumes a great deal. It is an unfortunate fact of life that people tend to spread information, but that information can stop with you. As with most things in life, it may take some practice to get out of the gossip habit. If you feel yourself slipping into gossip, stop, and try to say something nice instead.

First and foremost, God considered gossip to be such a serious matter that He included the avoidance of it as one of the Ten Commandments. "Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" (Exodus 20). When you repeat something you heard from someone else, or share a story where you're not 100% certain the facts are correct, or even share information about another person that will only bring them harm and not good, you are bearing false witness against them. Since the second greatest commandment is "Love your neighbor as yourself," you would be breaking that one as well by gossiping. Would you gossip about yourself to others? If not, then why commit that act against your neighbor?

In the book of Romans, Paul reveals the sinful natures and lawlessness of mankind, stating how God was pouring out His wrath upon those who were rejecting His laws. Because they had turned away from God's instruction and guidance, He gave them over to their sinful natures. "They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them" (Romans 1:29b-32). God still does the same today. Many reject Him and His word, so He allows them to be ruled by their sinful nature and depraved minds.

Another group who was and is commonly known for indulging in this sinful behavior is widows. Timothy cautions widows against entertaining the habit of gossip and of being idle. "Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to" (1 Timothy 5:12-13). Because women tend to spend a lot of time in each other's homes or working closely with other women and getting involved in many people's lives, they hear and observe a variety of conversations or situations which have the potential to become distorted, if what they see is not kept private. Timothy stated that widows get into the habit of going from home to home, looking for something to occupy their idleness. Idle hands are the devil's workshop, and God cautions against allowing that sin to enter our lives.

Now, women are not the only ones who have been found guilty of this sin. Anyone can engage in the act of gossip simply be repeating something heard in confidence. The book of Proverbs has a long list of verses that cover the dangers of gossip and the potential hurt that results when care is not taken to think of the other person and how he/she might react if something they wanted kept private is revealed. "A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor, but a man of understanding holds his tongue. A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy man keeps a secret" (Proverbs 11:12-13).

Many times, people are asked to keep a secret, but they find the secret too good *not* to share. So, they tell just one person, thinking it'll be all right if only one other person knows. But, then that one person tells one who tells another who tells someone else, etc. Before long, what was originally repeated has become distorted and barely resembles the truth it was at the start. The problem began when the person who agreed to keep a secret, didn't stick to the promise made. There's a saying that states, "Two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead." That saying didn't just become known without a significant measure of truth in it. "A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends" (Proverbs 16:28).

Think about a time when you witnessed the destruction of a friendship over a misunderstanding that started with gossip. Those who engage in this behavior do nothing but stir up dissension and cause strife among friends. There is nothing honorable in their actions, and their own struggles or shortcomings are covered up by their desire to bring someone else down rather than focusing on the areas in their own lives which need work. Some people thrive on this and look for opportunities to destroy others. And when people like this are confronted, they deny the allegations and answer with an excuse for why they've done what they have. Rather than admit their wrong, they blame someone or something else, or attempt to make it sound like the sin committed isn't so bad. "A fool's mouth is his undoing, and his lips are a snare to his soul. The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to a man's inmost parts" (Proverbs 18:7-8).

Gossip usually hits deep. The topics that are "too good not to share" are generally ones that end up inflicting deep and cutting wounds to a person's inner being. And the betrayal almost always comes from someone close to the person affected. Gossip is bad enough when it comes from someone who is simply looking for a source of information they can share. But, when it begins with a trusted friend or someone who has been taken into a confidence, the betrayal cuts deep to the soul, making it even harder for the one on the receiving end to forgive. "A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid a man who talks too much" (Proverbs 20:19).

Those people who are considered "busybodies" are easily spotted and are usually in the center of the action, flitting from one situation to the next, seeking out a tidbit of information they can use to spread to others. They'll talk to just about anyone, pretending to care or be genuinely interested in what is being said to them, when all the while, their minds are racing ahead to the first person to whom they can repeat their conversation. Gossips are only in it for themselves and the perverted pleasure it brings them to tear others down.

But, God promises light at the end of the tunnel. "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will [perish] not go free" (Proverbs 19:5). The righteous will overtake the house of the wicked and bring them to ruin (Proverbs 21:12). Those who guard their mouths and tongues keep themselves from calamity (Proverbs 21:23). So, guard your tongue and refrain from the sinful act of gossip. Surrender your natural desires to the Lord and allow Him to help you remain righteous. Love your neighbor as yourself and don't sin against them in any way that you wouldn't also do to yourself. God rewards the just and the righteous, so strive to remain as such.
 

Nice & Wavy

Well-Known Member
I posted this in off topic but someone mentioned the christian stance on gossip which I left out because I knew that thread would get shut down in secular LHCF.

So I'm posting it here for anyone that wants to respond especially for folks like N&W who only participtes in this forum area.

Here is the link to the other thread -> http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=187525

@ the bolded. I just want to clarify this statement. I don't only participate in the CF...I do the others as well. However, in the OT forum I will no longer participate with topics about Christianity....only in the CF will i discuss topics about Christ. For me, this is the place to discuss it and if others want to know something about Christ, they should come to the Christianity Forum. That's my view.

Thanks.
 
Adequate, what an excellent, informative thread.

Quite often, I pray to my Lord to let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in His sight.

I have had to ask Him to deliver me from not only spreading gossip, but getting excited listening to it. Even if I didn't comment, I began to feel really, really guilty. The Holy Ghost began to convict me that I am not to participate in it at all.

Why is it that when others are gossipped about or lied on, it no big deal. But, if it's us, we are ready to cry, feel betrayed or hit the roof?

My phone doesn't ring like it used to. But, I sleep so much better at night.

Thanks again for reminding me to be on guard against this.
 

gone_fishing

New Member
Adequate, what an excellent, informative thread.

Quite often, I pray to my Lord to let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in His sight.

I have had to ask Him to deliver me from not only spreading gossip, but getting excited listening to it. Even if I didn't comment, I began to feel really, really guilty. The Holy Ghost began to convict me that I am not to participate in it at all.

Why is it that when others are gossipped about or lied on, it no big deal. But, if it's us, we are ready to cry, feel betrayed or hit the roof?

My phone doesn't ring like it used to. But, I sleep so much better at night.

Thanks again for reminding me to be on guard against this.

Excellent. I need to ask for the same deliverence. You think you don't gossip but sometimes, you don't realize what you are doing until it's done so you are right. It is best done with the assist of the Holy Ghost rather than trying to conquer the tongue alone. :yep:
 

gone_fishing

New Member
@ the bolded. I just want to clarify this statement. I don't only participate in the CF...I do the others as well. However, in the OT forum I will no longer participate with topics about Christianity....only in the CF will i discuss topics about Christ. For me, this is the place to discuss it and if others want to know something about Christ, they should come to the Christianity Forum. That's my view.

Thanks.

Ok, understood! I was hoping for more of a response than that though. :grin:
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
This is another thing that I have to work on. I have so many things to work on this year it isn't even funny. I guess it all sums up to become humble and thinking of others before myself and what the God wants me to do and acting on his will.
 

Petite One

Active Member
This hits SO close to home for me. I recently had a Christian friend give me a bunch of websites to check out. I didn't know they were gossip websites until I looked them up. So now I have to gently share with her why these are not good for us spiritually to be involved in. Please pray for me that the Holy Spirit will give me the right words and that she'll receive them. And pray for me too! I listen to family gossip and I know that is just as bad if not worse than other gossip floating around.
 
I prayed for you.

You, me, we'll make it because The Father, In The Name of Jesus, will give us anything that we ask, according to His will.
 
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