Transgender Girls Running...

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  1. Bette Davis Eyes

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    They need to make it clear in the rules that participation in athletic events is determined by sex and by not gender identity.
     
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    It is unfair to the girls born girls.
    The transgender girls saying they'd be pushed to run faster had they been born female running with boys doesn't change the fact that boys are naturally bigger, stronger, faster.
    I was watching the mixed relays in track and field and even a world class sprinter like Allyson Felix ( love her) was easily overtaken by a male Polish runner then in the last leg the USA male caught the Polish female with ease.

     
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    Wow! To anyone denying men’s clear physical advantage...this video is just wow!
     
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    Many do not believe the bolded to be true, so there's ideological conflict from the get.
     
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    There are a lot of people that need to be ashamed and it’s not those girls suing.
     
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    Belief and truth are 2 different things. It’s becoming increasingly frustrating that modern society wants to rewrite the facts of situation if they don’t like what it implies.

    Some things in life just are. You accept, live within, push boundaries ect but ignoring reality shouldn’t be an option.

    Transexuals were born physically a sex they do not believe to be their true gender. But to deny that the physical attributes of their birth sex have no bearing on who they became is akin to stinking their fingers in their ears because they don’t like what someone is saying.
     
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    Must be nice to totally ignore hundred thousands of years of evolutionary biology.
     
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    "That biological unfairness doesn't go away because of what someone believes about gender identity."

    This is and will always be my issue with transgenders in sports. The male born athletes can request to be called whatever pronoun they prefer and wear all the dresses they want. Still doesn't change the fact that they have uncontested testosterone and training working in their favor over all the females they are competing against.

    That is such a male egocentric view and as you stated, it does highlight that they know and acknowledge that they are competing as male and are aware of that advantage.

    There really needs to be an elective sex/gender category in athletics if they are going to continue down this road with sports.
     
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    Look, these trans folks need to be ashamed. We had a long thread about this in the past so I won’t go into it but I still think a lot of mediocre men transition and then suddenly feel they can be exceptional in ways that they couldn’t be as a man.

    Because a mediocre male runner will still probably run faster than an excellent female runner. Congrats to them on cheating and their male privilege
     
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    Yup..... I agree with this and probably liked any post in the past with similar sentiment. I know I’ve put my two cents in regarding average/below average males using this as a way to be top dogs in female arena.
     
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    Oh just guys being guys..
    If they had been born female it would push them to run faster.. &;they'd be happy about that is such a douchie guy thing to say.
     
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    All of this and the silencing those who believe the facts.
    Just showing the other side. I've noticed people just pretend they get it or spew talking points. Most aren't as cool with it as they pretend to be and it comes out when they get triggered enough.

    ETA: typos
     
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    I really would be interested in a documentary comparing the US trans-gender (especially MTF) pre-op, post-op, inbtwn plus the other gender fluidity culture/movement to other countries.

    I know of Thailand, Philippine, India that have a decent population of these sub-groups. There maybe more.

    It would be nice to compare the various sociological interactions and the effects on how the culture in these places deal with the various groups are on the outliers side of what culture consider the norm.
     
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    I'm a minority as far as the pro-tolerance crowd goes. I think they need to play with the boys or on a team that accepts boys and girls. They have an unfair genetic advantage even after the hormones.
     
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    I have seen a lot of these cases (like one in TX) where the M to F still wanted to compete with the boys but they refused to allow it. So the M2F was competing with girls and sweeping the contests.
     
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    Because patriarchy works. Men aren't under pressure to open up their spaces and share their piece of the pie. Any gains will be at the expense of women.
     
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    Yep, and a lot of women are behind opening up these spaces and opportunities. In the spirit of accommodation and empathy, woman are going to lose.
     
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    Folks gotta stop arguing scientific facts.
     
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    @The bolded

    Which is why women stay losing, especially bw, no sense of self preservation. Everyone shouldn't just have access to our spaces all willy nilly.

    The older I get the more and more I'm realizing that women seem to be at the helm of their own disempowerment.
     
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    what gave it away:look:
     
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    Chile, probably because of all of this female-superhero-silhouette-with-cape-in-action-vector-25728148.jpg

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