WE ARE THE WORLD?

[Guitarhero]

BIf you doing something on your own merit and esteem, its vain, vain, vain!!I know people dont want to hear this, but we must know that a few good deeds wont cover up the sin thats in your hearts!

I'm not talking about this, actually, and provided several scriptures from the bible to illustrate, based upon what Jesus has said....plainly, in scripture, in case you missed it.

 

[makeupgirl]

I have no problem with the truth. That dark feeling is coming from the things being said here that really don't line up. The devil is deceitful and he uses even those who APPEAR to know and love the Lord. The things in this thread are being used to deceive and lead people astray.

I'm for Christ. Always have been and nothing I have ever read in the Word supports the things being said in this thread. It doesn't even make sense. This is what happens when people attempt to be so spiritually superior that they lose common sense. I think YOU and some others are the ones who struggle with the truth: God loves us ALL. And He uses us ALL.

Nope..no struggle with the truth my dear. No struggle at all, when one submits to the Lord, by picking up their cross and follow him.

Question for you... Are you in Christ? Not just for him but are you in him? Because Paul said 2 Cor 5:17 " Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

So do you believe that we can be Christians and also be apart of the world? Wasn't it Jesus that said, "we cannot serve both God and mammon". There is a song by Avalon that is called " In not of" where they sing about us being in the world, but not of the world.

Yes the devil is decitful (I can't spell today, sorry) but, he doesn't have control over those who are in Christ. If he has control, it's because we ourselves have given him that control.

Which part of the things in this thread is non-scriptural to you? This is where we can come together as sisters in Christ to help one another. So, let us know and they we can go over it and discuss.

As far as what the OP is about, Laela is correct in everything she has stated and she has provided scripture as well to back up what she has taught us today.

(I have to go to a meeting so I be back)

 

[LucieLoo12]

I'm for Christ. Always have been and nothing I have ever read in the Word supports the things being said in this thread. It doesn't even make sense. .

If it something I said, and if you never read it in scripture, please let me know..and I will show you. And im not saying this to debate, I sincerely want you to tell me..I never want anyone to think Im just talking out of my head.I never want to mislead anyone.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

. Are you in Christ? Not just for him but are you in him? Because Paul said 2 Cor 5:17 " Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

The better question is are YOU in Christ?

So do you believe that we can be Christians and also be apart of the world? Wasn't it Jesus that said, "we cannot serve both God and mammon". There is a song by Avalon that is called " In not of" where they sing about us being in the world, but not of the world.

I clearly stated that we are not supposed to be of the world. But the logic in this thread as it relates to We Are the World is baffling.

 

[LucieLoo12]

Nathan's Girl, if you read Laela post, the song We are the World is mentioned, but its more points that she brings out..Alot of our comments are not only on the song, but the concept of the "World" as well...and of course as we all know when you are in a forum, you may begin to speak on one area about more topics can come up. I dont believe every post is relating/commenting on the song. I know not all mine are.

The better question is are YOU in Christ?



I clearly stated that we are not supposed to be of the world. But the logic in this thread as it relates to We Are the World is baffling.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

Nathan's Girl, if you read Laela post, the song We are the World is mentioned, but its more points that she brings out..Alot of our comments are not only on the song, but the concept of the "World" as well...and of course as we all know when you are in a forum, you may begin to speak on one area about more topics can come up. I dont believe every post is relating/commenting on the song. I know not all mine are.

Yeah. lol I know how we go off on tangents around here.
I'm just referencing that because it seemed like a jumping off point and I was really bothered by that.

 

[makeupgirl]

The better question is are YOU in Christ?



I clearly stated that we are not supposed to be of the world. But the logic in this thread as it relates to We Are the World is baffling.

Interesting, not answering the question. That's ok. I'm not the one that needs that answer.

i'm going to answer your question though. Yep, I'm definitely in Christ. A born again believer. Apart of the body/bride of Christ. Ex-kid of Satan. Now Joint-heirs with Christ. Yep, that's me. Coming up 10 years on December 16.

The logic of the thread relating to the song is not baffling, but us gently debating what the word of God says as far as being not of the world is. Whether it's being in the world, not of the world, loving the world, we apart of the world, etc, etc, etc..it's still related. Human opinion is one thing but when it's backed up with scripture is a completely different ball game and the word of God is very true indeed. And most of all, it can careless if our feelings are hurt. If anyone's feelings are hurt, it would be God since some of his creation chose to not follow him, obey him, deny him.

Look, i'm not trying to debate in a negative way, that's not my style whether in the flesh and especially in the Spirit. Nor am I trying steer you towards what I say. But if something is against God, don't we have the responsiblity to stand firm in what we believe in that is true according to his word. The bible is constantly being compromised on a daily basis to the point that some man made bibles don't even mention sin, the blood, hell, or even judgment. That's why we should meditate on the word as we study and read it by the aid of the Holy Spirit for understanding. If we ever try to study it from our human minds, it's not going to click. We're constantly as we grow in Christ are going to learn something new each time, as well as being reminded of what we've already learned. If you notice, the scriptures are very repetitive but it's for a reason.

So, if we come together as family, then we can help one another in prayer to lift each other up as we discuss God's word.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

Interesting, not answering the question. That's ok. I'm not the one that needs that answer.

This is what I'm talking about. You're trying to take my response and make it into some deep "she's not saved" mess. Save that. I think I've already posted in this thread about where I stand.

 

[LucieLoo12]

come on guys..lets not make this thread into anything negative...

 

[makeupgirl]

This is what I'm talking about. You're trying to take my response and make it into some deep "she's not saved" mess. Save that. I think I've already posted in this thread about where I stand.

You certainly know how to twist things to make it seem like it's an attack towards you. Quit being a drama queen and get over yourself. (i'm not saying that to be snarky but I'm calling you out because I care) I mean it's not my problem if you answer the question or not, but one thing I do care about is the salvation of another person. If I knew that such a simple question like "Are you in Christ?" would bring such crankiness, I wouldn't have asked. . But one thing, I have never met another Christian so defensive as you are. Why the negativity and the uptightness? Could it be that something that I've said or someone else has convicted you in some way? If you have nothing to worry about, why fight? I don't know your heart or your head, but God does.

 

[makeupgirl]

come on guys..lets not make this thread into anything negative...

I'll make a stronger effort to keep it positive.

 

[Laela]

I apologize Makeupgirl... it was not my intent for the article to be read as my own words. I'd posted this from a blog from Latter Day Ministries and posted the link to the blog itself.

As far as what the OP is about, Laela is correct in everything she has stated and she has provided scripture as well to back up what she has taught us today.

(I have to go to a meeting so I be back)

 

[makeupgirl]

I apologize Makeupgirl... it was not my intent for the article to be read as my own words. I'd posted this from a blog from Latter Day Ministries and posted the link to the blog itself.

There's not need to apologize Laela. The article spoke volumes. Everything happens for a reason and I enjoyed the post/article. Plus, it was a reminder to me when I start to get out of the will of God and act in my former self. I apologize to you for having a hand in turning the thread into a negative one, which was not my intent at all or to offend anyone, even if it was the truth that was spoken.

 

[PinkPebbles]

The Spirit of the World

I have an honest question for those who consider themselves Christians. Can anything good come from the world?

Good question!

If we put our trust and faith in worldly things, we fall prey to the deception of worldly wisdom, its beliefs and values which we know are opposite of God's word and commands.

I believe this is one of the reasons why we are instructed in Rom. 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

This is a good discussion because Satan has lied about what is right and what is wrong since the beginning of time with Adam and Eve. He lies about what is valuable and what is not. He has enslaved and ensnared the world with his lies and he attempts to tempt us through his lies if we are not careful.

My prayer is that God will give all of us spiritual wisdom according to Eph. 1:17-22.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

You certainly know how to twist things to make it seem like it's an attack towards you. Quit being a drama queen and get over yourself. (i'm not saying that to be snarky but I'm calling you out because I care) I mean it's not my problem if you answer the question or not, but one thing I do care about is the salvation of another person. If I knew that such a simple question like "Are you in Christ?" would bring such crankiness, I wouldn't have asked. . But one thing, I have never met another Christian so defensive as you are. Why the negativity and the uptightness? Could it be that something that I've said or someone else has convicted you in some way? If you have nothing to worry about, why fight? I don't know your heart or your head, but God does.

And I'm calling YOU out because I care. You're being judgmental in this thread. This attitude gives the wrong impression about Christians and following Christ in general.

And you need to drop the veiled attempts to call me unsaved. It doesn't work. I'm not convicted. But some folks in this thread should be. Quoting scripture is worthless if not applied in your daily life and if you do a "cut and paste" scripture lesson. That's what I see going on in here on this topic.

 

[Laela]

I couldn't have said it better...Amein~ @ the bolded, I touch and agree with you in prayer.

Good question!

If we put our trust and faith in worldly things, we fall prey to the deception of worldly wisdom, its beliefs and values which we know are opposite of God's word and commands.

I believe this is one of the reasons why we are instructed in Rom. 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

This is a good discussion because Satan has lied about what is right and what is wrong since the beginning of time with Adam and Eve. He lies about what is valuable and what is not. He has enslaved and ensnared the world with his lies and he attempts to tempt us through his lies if we are not careful.

My prayer is that God will give all of us spiritual wisdom according to Eph. 1:17-22.

 

[makeupgirl]

And I'm calling YOU out because I care. You're being judgmental in this thread. This attitude gives the wrong impression about Christians and following Christ in general.

And you need to drop the veiled attempts to call me unsaved. It doesn't work. I'm not convicted. But some folks in this thread should be. Quoting scripture is worthless if not applied in your daily life and if you do a "cut and paste" scripture lesson. That's what I see going on in here on this topic.

deleted..... I did say something that wasn't nice but I'm listening to the Holy Spirit and I'm not going to allow Satan to have a foothole in either one of us so it was deleted.

However, I never stated or drop veil attempts that you were unsaved. I asked a simple question "Are are in Christ?" maybe I should have rephrased that. I asked because I don't know if you are or not and Why be mad or offended if someone ask a question like that? It's a yes or no question and you should be proud that someone ask you if your saved, in Christ, a Christian. That's your chance and moment to say, Yes I am with great joy. Plus, that's a great conversation starter to witness to someone who isn't saved or to connect with those who are.

Also, the fleshy side of me isn't going to let anyone talk to me any kind of way. Don't ever mistake my kindness for weakness because you will not like what you get back. That's not a threat, it's a promise.

However, the Spirit of God in me is reminding me to keep my heart open and full of forgiveness. So I forgive you for offending me. But I also know, you're just one of those people I cannot talk to without it turning into a massive debate towards the negative and I don't do confrontation well. It's not my personality, even though I can handle myself.

And if by chance you did see my original post before the deletion. I"m sorry if you got offended but I don't regret what I wrote. I'm not a spiteful person and yet the conviction from God gave me a chance deleted it just in case. So I did.

Now, I'm leaving this thread alone because I don't like submitting to my flesh to handle things.

Good luck to you!

 

[nathansgirl1908]

Also, the fleshy side of me isn't going to let anyone talk to me any kind of way. Don't ever mistake my kindness for weakness because you will not like what you get back. That's not a threat, it's a promise.

This reveals who you truly are. Hence why I responded to the thread in this manner. But make no mistake. I never saw kindness in your responses. I saw condescension. Plain and simple. There's no need for threats. People just need to be honest about who they really are in Christ and remember that God loves ALL of us.

 

[makeupgirl]

This reveals who you truly are. Hence why I responded to the thread in this manner. But make no mistake. I never saw kindness in your responses. I saw condescension. Plain and simple. There's no need for threats. People just need to be honest about who they really are in Christ and remember that God loves ALL of us.

I'll take your words under advisement. But something I said affected you because you would not be responding so much. And there is something you said that affected me as well for the same reasons. Like I said, I'm not perfect, never claim to be perfect, never denied that I was judgmental, or anything of the sort.

I'm secure about who I am in Christ and will shout it to the highest mountain that I am a born again believer in Christ to anyone that may ask the very question "Are you saved? or Are in you Christ?" I aint ashamed to do so.

Romans 1:16.. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Luke 9:26...For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

Likewise:

Matt 10:33...But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

Mark 3:8.... If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

God loves us all yes. That's a fact that he loves us because in John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son; and whosever believeth in him, shall not perish but have everlasting life"

All he ask of us who have already trusted, believeth, and proclaim that Jesus is the Lord of their life is to be obediant to his word. He also ask us to spread his gospel to all nations. As I stated before, I don't know your heart. I can only take your word if you are a believer or not. Just the same as I am. I'm concerned that your defense to someone asking you if you'e saved or if you're in Christ is revealing to God that you're ashamed.

Obviously these events have happened for a reason, even the escalated arguments between you and I. This may be a growing experience and maybe a wake up call. Maybe this is the Lord's way of reminding you not to be defensive or offended when you're asked if you are saved or in Christ. Maybe this was the Lord's way of reminding me that I can get overpassionated to the point that I will get out of his will.

I'll continue to keep you in prayer and whether you believe it or not, I do care. It's Christ in me, the hope of glory that gives me his caring and loving strength to be able to reach out.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Laela ,
The Holy Spirit is upon you and has opened up your heart to share this message. This is a message for those who have a heavy diet of the meat of God's Word...who will not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Do not be discouraged because of turbulance in the waters....as believers in Jesus, the boat will be rocked at times, but we...as Jesus did, can fall asleep on the boat and not be concerned by what we see....its temporary and subject to change!

Continue to allow the Holy Spirit to use you in the giving of His Word in this way...it speaks volumes!

makeupgirl ,
Thank you for being a light upon a hill which cannot be hidden. The light of Christ is seen within your text and your heart is being revealed. We can all learn from your words and your actions within your text today about what it means to be in the world, but not of the world. The way you have handled this entire thread shows me that Jesus the Christ, the Hope of Glory, is living inside of you and that your desire to be pleasing to Him has been revealed! You have shown me much today....thank you!

As I read this thread, I am reminded of the book of Acts and the 1st Church. The difficulties the leadership faced, with both believers and non-believers in that day, is an example of what we both see and face ourselves today. I encourage all to take the time to study the book of Acts, once again...it will help to understand what the purpose of the Church should be, as given by God of the bible, through His Holy Spirit and how we as the Church (His Bride) should live our lives and how we are to occupy till He comes, while we are traveling through here...in this world.

Gather the wheat ladies, even with the tares there! The harvest is ripe, but the laborers are few. At the end of the day, our goal is to lead people to the foot of the cross....Jesus didn't say it would be easy, but the reward will be sweet!

May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. May the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you...Shalom!

Blessings, always....

N&W

 

[nathansgirl1908]

*sigh*.
You are STILL trying to make an issue out of my question to you. I suspect it's because you know you and others were wrong about some things said in this thread. Don't worry about my response to your question about whether I'm in Christ. Worry about the fact that we have Christians who don't realize that God uses anyone and everyone to accomplish things. If we see someone doing good, even if they are living a life of sin, respect that they are still using HIS money for a good cause. I'm sure someone in this thread would be making all kinds of nasty remarks about Diddy giving money to save that club in Harlem. If you ever wonder why so many people look at Christians with suspicion and disdain, the sentiments in this thread should be a starting point. So yes, something you said touched a nerve but it's not what YOU think. It's the willingness to put down those who help others, even if their heart is not totally in Christ. It's still a start. And a good one. And with the right influnce they could easily be swayed to turn their life around. But it won't happen if they are met with sanctimonious Christians who look down on them.

I'll take your words under advisement. But something I said affected you because you would not be responding so much. And there is something you said that affected me as well for the same reasons. Like I said, I'm not perfect, never claim to be perfect, never denied that I was judgmental, or anything of the sort.

I'm secure about who I am in Christ and will shout it to the highest mountain that I am a born again believer in Christ to anyone that may ask the very question "Are you saved? or Are in you Christ?" I aint ashamed to do so.

Romans 1:16.. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Luke 9:26...For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

Likewise:

Matt 10:33...But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

Mark 3:8.... If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

God loves us all yes. That's a fact that he loves us because in John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son; and whosever believeth in him, shall not perish but have everlasting life"

All he ask of us who have already trusted, believeth, and proclaim that Jesus is the Lord of their life is to be obediant to his word. He also ask us to spread his gospel to all nations. As I stated before, I don't know your heart. I can only take your word if you are a believer or not. Just the same as I am. I'm concerned that your defense to someone asking you if you'e saved or if you're in Christ is revealing to God that you're ashamed.

Obviously these events have happened for a reason, even the escalated arguments between you and I. This may be a growing experience and maybe a wake up call. Maybe this is the Lord's way of reminding you not to be defensive or offended when you're asked if you are saved or in Christ. Maybe this was the Lord's way of reminding me that I can get overpassionated to the point that I will get out of his will.

I'll continue to keep you in prayer and whether you believe it or not, I do care. It's Christ in me, the hope of glory that gives me his caring and loving strength to be able to reach out.

 

[makeupgirl]

*sigh*.
You are STILL trying to make an issue out of my question to you. I suspect it's because you know you and others were wrong about some things said in this thread. Don't worry about my response to your question about whether I'm in Christ. Worry about the fact that we have Christians who don't realize that God uses anyone and everyone to accomplish things. If we see someone doing good, even if they are living a life of sin, respect that they are still using HIS money for a good cause. I'm sure someone in this thread would be making all kinds of nasty remarks about Diddy giving money to save that club in Harlem. If you ever wonder why so many people look at Christians with suspicion and disdain, the sentiments in this thread should be a starting point. So yes, something you said touched a nerve but it's not what YOU think. It's the willingness to put down those who help others, even if their heart is not totally in Christ. It's still a start. And a good one. And with the right influnce they could easily be swayed to turn their life around. But it won't happen if they are met with sanctimonious Christians who look down on them.

I am concerned for you because I sense great pain from your posts. Please don't let Satan take advantage of what you're feeling.

I'm going to pray about that demon of agressiveness that seems to have taken hold of you. Seriously, I've seen you around other threads as well and it's always "a defensive rebutal" That's not a good way to get your point across. If you have to argue about everything under the sun, then what are you actually joyful about? If you don't agree with something, agree to disagree and move on. I hope you don't drive yourself into a heart attack or a stroke because of the added stress from arguing.

Think about this, what if God was asking the questions I have asked you? Would you get defensive with an attitude with him? Consider it an honor to be asked "if you're a Christian" "if your Saved" "if your in Christ". That should be a great honor because obviously they may see something in you that God is allowing them to learn from. If you continue to close that door, you may close it for good and miss a blessing for yourself and that person.

Lets look at what the word of God said here:

Matt 11:28-30


28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

1 Peter 5:7

7Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Psalm 55:22

22Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.

John 16:33


33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Isaiah 40:31

31But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

These scriptures I have posted is from the Lord to us to provide encouragment, comfort, and peace within us. We're going to have heartache, pain, suffering, sickness, tribulations, etc. However, we should also be secure enough in the Lord to always with a doubt trust him with the things that are bothering us, including any strife or anger you may feel.

Please talk to the Lord about what's going on with you. If you're doing it, great, continue to do so. Seek him whenever you feel yourself about to lash out. I'm a living witness that he can help with the strong tempers that we as humans have. As I'm typing this to you, I'm also typing this to myself, because I also have a long way to go in my journey with the Lord.

Take care and I'll keep you in my prayers.

 

[makeupgirl]

@Laela ,
The Holy Spirit is upon you and has opened up your heart to share this message. This is a message for those who have a heavy diet of the meat of God's Word...who will not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Do not be discouraged because of turbulance in the waters....as believers in Jesus, the boat will be rocked at times, but we...as Jesus did, can fall asleep on the boat and not be concerned by what we see....its temporary and subject to change!

Continue to allow the Holy Spirit to use you in the giving of His Word in this way...it speaks volumes!

@makeupgirl ,
Thank you for being a light upon a hill which cannot be hidden. The light of Christ is seen within your text and your heart is being revealed. We can all learn from your words and your actions within your text today about what it means to be in the world, but not of the world. The way you have handled this entire thread shows me that Jesus the Christ, the Hope of Glory, is living inside of you and that your desire to be pleasing to Him has been revealed! You have shown me much today....thank you!

As I read this thread, I am reminded of the book of Acts and the 1st Church. The difficulties the leadership faced, with both believers and non-believers in that day, is an example of what we both see and face ourselves today. I encourage all to take the time to study the book of Acts, once again...it will help to understand what the purpose of the Church should be, as given by God of the bible, through His Holy Spirit and how we as the Church (His Bride) should live our lives and how we are to occupy till He comes, while we are traveling through here...in this world.

Gather the wheat ladies, even with the tares there! The harvest is ripe, but the laborers are few. At the end of the day, our goal is to lead people to the foot of the cross....Jesus didn't say it would be easy, but the reward will be sweet!

May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. May the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you...Shalom!

Blessings, always....

N&W

Thank you N&W for your kind words and wisdom.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

"All Scripture is God‑breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV


Amen!

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Thank you N&W for your kind words and wisdom.

Have a wonderful day!

 

[Shimmie]

Excellent Post Laela...

The message that I have always gotten from the 'World' is that they are out to prove that they do not need God, nor give God credit for HIS resources and HIS gift of talent which HE have given to them.

They behave as if their talents are 'self made' and self created, not realizing that it is STILL God who has given them this ability to be and to have all that they are.

No matter what 'good' that anyone does it's still from God's resources that it comes from. So in truth, the world isn't doing any good at all, it's God's Good for it comes from His total provision that He created in this earth ...

As His Word so clearly says, "... it's Not of works which any man can boast..."

 

[Guitarhero]

Opinions were asked in this thread. Does that mean that one is supposed to beat another with their version of the truth? No. A good dose of humility and respect could go a very long way in this thread, if you'd only take it. There will always be differing opinions and some people will not comprehend your own. This nice-nasty attacking is so unnecessary.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

I'm asking this in the nicest way possible: don't pray for me. Idont know you but judging from your comments I also don't trust you. I don like everyone praying for me. Especially when they don't have good intentions and when they wield it as a threat.

You would also do well to recognize that I've already stated in this thread where I stand with Christ. So drop that issue. You're fake with it.

The aggressiveness you speak of? It's what I do for a living. I always ask questions when something doesn't add up. And this is no exception. You're unhappy because unlike some others I dont just take everything that certain people say to heart as the gospel. I can think for myslf and I know when something doesn't add up. I've even shared the seniments in this thread with others who found it as off-putting as I have. It's just sad really. Never thought I would see Christians saying the things that have been said in this thread.

There but for the grace of God...

I am concerned for you because I sense great pain from your posts. Please don't let Satan take advantage of what you're feeling.

I'm going to pray about that demon of agressiveness that seems to have taken hold of you. Seriously, I've seen you around other threads as well and it's always "a defensive rebutal" That's not a good way to get your point across. If you have to argue about everything under the sun, then what are you actually joyful about? If you don't agree with something, agree to disagree and move on. I hope you don't drive yourself into a heart attack or a stroke because of the added stress from arguing.

Think about this, what if God was asking the questions I have asked you? Would you get defensive with an attitude with him? Consider it an honor to be asked "if you're a Christian" "if your Saved" "if your in Christ". That should be a great honor because obviously they may see something in you that God is allowing them to learn from. If you continue to close that door, you may close it for good and miss a blessing for yourself and that person.

Lets look at what the word of God said here:

Matt 11:28-30


28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

1 Peter 5:7

7Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Psalm 55:22

22Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.

John 16:33


33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Isaiah 40:31

31But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

These scriptures I have posted is from the Lord to us to provide encouragment, comfort, and peace within us. We're going to have heartache, pain, suffering, sickness, tribulations, etc. However, we should also be secure enough in the Lord to always with a doubt trust him with the things that are bothering us, including any strife or anger you may feel.

Please talk to the Lord about what's going on with you. If you're doing it, great, continue to do so. Seek him whenever you feel yourself about to lash out. I'm a living witness that he can help with the strong tempers that we as humans have. As I'm typing this to you, I'm also typing this to myself, because I also have a long way to go in my journey with the Lord.

Take care and I'll keep you in my prayers.

 

[makeupgirl]

I'm asking this in the nicest way possible: don't pray for me. Idont know you but judging from your comments I also don't trust you. I don like everyone praying for me. Especially when they don't have good intentions and when they wield it as a threat.

You would also do well to recognize that I've already stated in this thread where I stand with Christ. So drop that issue. You're fake with it.

The aggressiveness you speak of? It's what I do for a living. I always ask questions when something doesn't add up. And this is no exception. You're unhappy because unlike some others I dont just take everything that certain people say to heart as the gospel. I can think for myslf and I know when something doesn't add up. I've even shared the seniments in this thread with others who found it as off-putting as I have. It's just sad really. Never thought I would see Christians saying the things that have been said in this thread.

There but for the grace of God...

I already prayed for you so I can't go by to the Lord and say never mind.

I'm not unhappy at all, quite the contrary in fact. Maybe for the first time in my 30 years on this earth I'm content. I have a great job as a fraud investigator and I'm healthy, alive, got my ncis fix last night and have an unspeakable joy in Christ and I will not apologize for that. Nor will I say that you're unhappy because even though I've been trained to sniff out fraud and the Lord has allowed me to be good at it , I'll never tell a fraudster to their face that they are unhappy. No actions speak for themselves.

It will also do you to know that I'm not fake. I don't know how to be. I don't think you do either. What I've learned as an investigator is that when the evidence is laid out, that is when the aggressive nature comes out on full force. Like I always say, if you haven't done anything wrong to be guilty about, then why get aggressive about it. Whatever is in darkness will always come to light anyway.

You have proved a point in more ways than you will ever know.

Now it's time for me to get ready for worship.

Btw....I'm not going to stop praying for you.

 

[LadyChe]

Opinions were asked in this thread. Does that mean that one is supposed to beat another with their version of the truth? No. A good dose of humility and respect could go a very long way in this thread, if you'd only take it. There will always be differing opinions and some people will not comprehend your own. This nice-nasty attacking is so unnecessary.

Thank you. Well stated.